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| Kingpin Posts: 479/709 |
Originally posted by Xkeeper racist (n., ktionary) one who believes their race is superior with little legitimate reason; one whoe claims their race is significantly better than all others without and proof or factual backup It's sad really... |
| Ogre Posts: 43/65 |
Originally posted by Xkeeper Eat a dick. =o |
| Xkeeper Posts: 2650/5653 |
fanboy (n., xtionary)
one who is a fan of a particular product or practice with little legitimate reason; one who claims that their product or practice is significantly better than all others without any proof or factual backup (  ) |
| Ogre Posts: 36/65 |
Originally posted by RydainRead: Flavor of the month syndrome. There is a more technical term, but this is an actual, and common, psychological phenomenon. Look at most MMO's for good examples. Originally posted by Cara ZeltinaThis can actually be said of almost ever console except most of Nintendo's. Nintendo has made it an uncommon practice to make thier systems built like goddam rocks. How many times have you heard of people having destroyed/burned SNES's or Gameboys, and they STILL work, the game is simply fused into place now. Hell, I've had it happen to my SNES. (Which thankfully Earthbound was fused to it, which I'd play excessively.) Sega did it too, as does Microsoft now. Only time Sega didn't cheap out on a system was the Dreamcast, which is the only system I will ever fanboy myself out. (To this day I mourn the lose of the Dreamcast, my PS2 wishes it were as cool.) From a real standpoint, fanboys are just, well, fanboys I guess. I know you shouldn't define the word you're using with itself, but in this case it works so well. The rest of us with brains to decide what we want will do just that. I'll be buying all three 'Next-gen' systems, just some are higher priority than others. |
| Cynthia Posts: 3672/5814 |
Well, to be fair Sony were the ones tossing around the idea that a PS3 game could only be played on one system, getting rid of the rental/used game markets.  |
| Cara Zeltina Posts: 47/95 |
Originally posted by neotransotaku Does it really matter? Do you really want to support a company that has shady practices? Sure, they have different branches that do different things and no one here is ignorant enough to think otherwise. But the fact remains, do you want to support a company through any means that pulls crap like that on people? And besides, Sony hasn't been known for the greatest in quality hardware. Just look at the first few versions of the PS and the PS2 for an example of this.. I mean, it isn't like this is an isolated case and someone is poking at a molehill and trying to make it into a mountain, rather actually it is a mountain to begin with. Sony's practices and their poor choice of attitude to customers have given me a distaste for them entirely as of late.. |
| Thexare Posts: 828/1104 |
Originally posted by neotransotaku That, I believe, has already been addressed by Shadic. Originally posted by Shadic |
| Xeo Belmont Posts: 298/1016 |
Originally posted by Colin Indeed. The best one I heard during E3 or something around there was "The Next Generation of gaming starts when we say it starts!" |
| Cynthia Posts: 3666/5814 |
Sony comes off as extremely arrogant in their quotes. It's not exactly the right message to be sending to the general consumer base. |
| neotransotaku Posts: 1518/1860 |
This root kit business is related to their audio CDs... not their video games no? To boycott sony media I can understand, but the hardware such as CD players, TVs, and what not? Why? |
| HyperHacker Posts: 2670/5072 |
Originally posted by neotransotakuOriginally posted by HyperMackerelI'd like to see examples in the video game industry... I honestly doubt it actually has happened. Just saying someone might do that. But like I said, keeping your customers happy is important to making money, so you might consider any time a company changes their mind about something because of customer demand (EG Microsoft continuing to support Windows 98 until now when they wanted to drop it 4 years ago) as a sort of example.
Originally posted by HyperMackerelThat statement is legit iff you were not satisfied by the products produced by the company when you used their services. Otherwise, it is bigotry to diss a company whose services you've never used. But I recall you had a playstation, did you not? so it is okay coming from you. Yeah, I have a PSX and PS2 and a bunch of games for both. The incredibly poor durability of the PS2 was a signifigant part of my decision, but it was that whole rootkit deal that convinced me to just stop buying from them at all. It made it very clear that these people don't care about their customers at all; not just that they put it there, but that the only way to have it removed was another invasive program that opened up gaping security holes, and the only way to get it was to give them your email which (they even stated on the site) would then be spammed.  |
| Ailure Posts: 1589/2602 |
Originally posted by witeasprinwowThe huge monopoly with programs on X86 computers might be a factor. There's a reason why Microsoft got in trouble with EU. (There's less lobbying here as far I know)Originally posted by Racer Xeo I also don't like Sony, but not for their console. I have my other reasons to not like a such company, the rootkit piracy protection anyone? Then, both Microsoft and Sony aren't in a good position. Microsoft stocks are about the same since year 2000 or so apparently and Sony is making big losses in average. And Nintendo isn't pure good either, they abused their monopoly position in the start of the 90's, and started to get a bit arrogant. Sony seems to repeat that mistake with this generation. |
| Rydain Posts: 502/633 |
Originally posted by ziffhasnoaim/passwordBecause you're only allowed to like something if everyone else does. Didn't you get the memo? In all seriousness, there's a basic human instinct to win that often manifests itself in silly and pointless ways, and this is one of them. If you like the most popular console, you're on the winning team. Conversely, if your favorite console isn't doing as well in sales, you lose. I can't find a source for this, but I read a while ago that it has been demonstrated that people will buy the #1 brand of some product just because it is #1. If this is the case, it would not surprise me at all. |
| Sukasa Posts: 1239/2068 |
The XBOX wasn't made to get get, they lose cash with every sale of a unit...
and I don't buy SONY because I dn't trust their product quailty. my friend has a PS2... it failed (couldn't read disks). I don't buy XBOX because I don't see a good reason to. I also dislike SONY because of the rootkit fiasco. I like Nintendo because I can trust that their products will work, they have the games I like, and the price is pretty low, to boot. I also like nintendo, because instead of making a bigger controller, they went for something new. Now, look at the Wii's controller and it's possibilities. That's just another reaosnm I prefer Nintendo - innovation above and beyond SONY and Micorsoft. |
| Shadic Posts: 239/528 |
Originally posted by neotransotaku Actually, people stopped buying them first. They don't want 25 different versions of Pong in different colors for $20 each, they wanted something new. Originally posted by neotransotakuOriginally posted by HyperMackerelThat statement is legit iff you were not satisfied by the products produced by the company when you used their services. Otherwise, it is bigotry to diss a company whose services you've never used. But I recall you had a playstation, did you not? so it is okay coming from you. Some people, (Me, and a friend of mine) dislike Sony because of the Rootkit thing that they tried to pull off. While it's an entirely different section of the company (Well, for now, give it 10 years..) they sheer fact that this had to have been approved by some higher-ups just pisses me off. The same can be said for Microsoft with Windows and such, but Nintendo doesn't really have anything to bias them off of, other than the fact that they are a pure gaming company. And anybody who saids that the XBox was made to get Microsoft money is stupid, they lost a lot of cash on those things. It was a stepping stone, they needed to get into the industry. |
| neotransotaku Posts: 1510/1860 |
Originally posted by HyperMackerelI'd like to see examples in the video game industry... Originally posted by HyperMackerelThat statement is legit iff you were not satisfied by the products produced by the company when you used their services. Otherwise, it is bigotry to diss a company whose services you've never used. But I recall you had a playstation, did you not? so it is okay coming from you. |
| HyperHacker Posts: 2656/5072 |
Originally posted by ziffhasnoaim/password That's not entirely true. Money is most important, but a good corporation might make some small sacrifices to make people happy. Hell, if you're not making people happy, you're not going to make much money. People don't like to buy from companies they don't like, that's why I don't buy Sony products anymore. |
| ziffhasnoaim/password Posts: 190/292 |
Originally posted by Sukasa + A company is in it 100% for the money. Otherwise Nintendo would be a NFP organization dispensing games and first party titles merrily upon all the glowing faces of developers. Also "Some people need something to believe in, or like their respective console, and are assholes who can't accept other peopl's view." Isn't that why most people worship God, Shiva, or the Invisible Pink Unicorn or something? |
| neotransotaku Posts: 1508/1860 |
Consoles don't survive if there is no one to program them. This is what happened to Atari in the early 80's. There were plenty of consoles at the time but because shitty games were being produced up the wazoo, retailers gave up on video games, which crashed the video game market, which ultimately killed Atari's console business.
As long as video game makers see they can still make money on the console they program on, they will continue to program on it. It takes a bad decision on a console to make video game companies jump ship (i.e. Nintendo's fall in the mid-90's). Of course, the consumer also has a role in how well a console will do, this is why Dreamcast and Saturn were flops in the U.S. and not in Japan. If console were really important factor, then one would just buy the console and no games . But I believe most logical people buy a video game console because they like the games the could play on it. |
| Xeo Belmont Posts: 291/1016 |
Well obviously all companies are going to be in it for the money, because if they weren't they could possibly be out of a job. You can throw out the EA, Microsoft, whatever jokes all you want (even I do at times), but truth be told its not like every company, producer, and developer out there are 'not' in it for the money, they all are in some way.
Although its been awhile since I've seen this here, I just can't stand it when people say something like "I'm not buying it because its Microsoft. They suck". Thats just stupid and annoying. |
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