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Xkeeper
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Originally posted by asdf
Originally posted by Doritokiller
But they can still act great during the trial, and then get idiotic afterwards.


Or they act idiotic during the trial, but clean up their act afterward. Oh wait - they probably wouldn't get another chance after the trial. Not to mention that it would just lead to alternate accounts being made by those who don't get allowed.

Like I said, the best course of action is to just suck it up and tolerate them, banning their asses if necessary. If worst comes to worst, we could take drastic action, but nothing that would affect all new users.

You forget the board rejects registrations from the same IP, actually

Well, it did, until I turned it off
asdf
Posts: 3103/4077
Originally posted by Doritokiller
But they can still act great during the trial, and then get idiotic afterwards.


Or they act idiotic during the trial, but clean up their act afterward. Oh wait - they probably wouldn't get another chance after the trial. Not to mention that it would just lead to alternate accounts being made by those who don't get allowed.

Like I said, the best course of action is to just suck it up and tolerate them, banning their asses if necessary. If worst comes to worst, we could take drastic action, but nothing that would affect all new users.
Xkeeper
Posts: 2979/5653
That's more work than it's worth, not to mention it'd lead to an early death.
Doritokiller
Posts: 312/369
That just sounds a bit... Weird. I mean, yeah, invitations have been done before... Maybe a trial account like at Xkeeper's Justus League? Maybe like the first 10 posts or something... But they can still act great during the trial, and then get idiotic afterwards.

Getting rid of the registration or hiding it just seems to be the best solution. Idiots will keep getting through, so it's inevitable.
Kingpin
Posts: 577/709
The more I look at n00bs posts around here, I think I found a solution. Get rid of registration, and keep the members we have. New members could register, but only if an admin invites them via email.

Sounds drastic, but seriously, n00bs are ruining everything.
Gavin
Posts: 164/181
It may work.. but Jesus would it be lame as fuck.
witeasprinwow
Posts: 342/613
I'd support a short quiz on the FAQ covering the most important rules; even if they take it open-FAQ, they'd still at least have to read bits and pieces of it.

Or do something like the old Napster used to... When it asked you to read the license agreement, if you hit "next" without scrolling all the way to the bottom of the window, it would tell you "No, seriously, READ THE AGREEMENT!" and not let you pass until you scrolled to the bottom.

The best solution is just bannings, though. You don't have to be that smart to read the FAQ. Idiots will still get through no matter what you do.
Shadic
Posts: 258/528
Why not just hide the register link near the bottom of the FAQ, in the period after a sentence or something?


"- What are announcements?

Announcements are general messages posted by administrators only. Everybody can view them, but not reply to them(LINK). To register to the forums, click the previous link.
"

Or something like that? And add in the FAQ something like: "To register, you must read the FAQ, or else you will not know how to."
Apophis
Posts: 567/734
Better fix: death
Randy53215
Posts: 389/726
And how it has categories dont make it show up but randomly in the FAQ have it say..

Where can I register?

-Linkage...

and boom problem hopefully solved.
Surlent
Posts: 71/103
Some people just search for ROMs and don't read descriptions carefully, might land on this page, first hink "Cool, found a working ROM site!!!oneone", then read "What's that crap ?" and quickly search for the fastest way to register. Take a fake email, quickly scan or search the register-button and this was it.
Reading the FAQ ? No. And even if, this won't stop them.

That's the reason there are moderators. We also cannot stop crime ...
HyperHacker
Posts: 2687/5072
If you rename it and point out the correct name somewhere in the FAQ, I don't see it being a problem.
Sukasa
Posts: 1307/2068
But don't rename it.

Then, those people who aren't n00bs won't be able to join either. hiding is good, but not renaming.
Darkdata
Posts: 331/983
Originally posted by KATW
You could always hide "Register" and tell people somewhere in the FAQ that you have to type register.php to actually go register

Better yet, hide it under a different name, like "Butter.php"...



Butter feddish?

Yeah that would be a good idea.
asdf
Posts: 2824/4077
Originally posted by Sukasa +
Heh, you should make it "I have not read the FAQ" or soemthing, then deny you access if you click it without reading it.


Yeah, but even the biggest idiots could figure that one out. Truth is, there is no way to eliminate the problems of new users breaking the rules. It'd probably be more trouble than it's worth to go through with coding in something that would prevent the majority of them from getting in. Besides, I'm sure many of the idiots know about the rules, they just don't want to follow them. And what, with all the spread-out-edness off them, the complexity, double-standards and unspoken rules, there are bound to be continuing problems anyhow.
Kattwah
Posts: 2514/3349
You could always hide "Register" and tell people somewhere in the FAQ that you have to type register.php to actually go register

Better yet, hide it under a different name, like "Butter.php"...
Sukasa
Posts: 1224/2068
Heh, you should make it "I have not read the FAQ" or soemthing, then deny you access if you click it without reading it.
Xkeeper
Posts: 2627/5653
Originally posted by Kario
No, they oppose it because its a bad idea and it wouldnt work. Did you even read the other posts?

SWS2B employs the same tactic (quiz to register), and then a "trial member" system of 30 posts (then evaluation to see if you're worth keeping)...

It works rather well there... but this isn't SWS2B.

Perosnally I think just having a "Have you read and agreed to the TOS/FAQ?", that has a totally pointless checkbox (with the real "Yes" being somewhere else entirely, or something)...

Meh.
Kingpin
Posts: 464/709
No, they oppose it because its a bad idea and it wouldnt work. Did you even read the other posts?
Deleted User
Posts: 132/-7750
Originally posted by fabio
I also have a weird feeling that this suggestion has been done before.
Originally posted by Syn
Another suggestion would to be to quiz people on the rules so that if they don't read them, they'll have to go back to look for the answers, so at least they'll learn the rules that way. And if they fail this test, block the board until they get a majority of the answers right.
Yes, yes it has.

I think this is a really good idea. It would probably be easier than banning every idiot, and it would lower the number of people being added to the banned users list. I bet this would ruin some of the Admin's fun because they won't be able to ban people as much. That's why they oppose it.
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