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spiroth10
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Originally posted by Jin Dogan
Yea, well a main obstacle in the fight against diseases is the corrupt pharmaceutical industry.


yes, and thats one reason why I think society as a whole is flawed today. the concept of money (as it is now) needs to be abolished. If I got my hands on any cures (which I do think researchers have -- theres more money in cancer walks and treatments than in a cure.) I would give it away for free.

we need a modern day robin hood of medicine. somebody to do the right thing, and not the profitable one. I should work to help that when Im older...
drjayphd
Posts: 688/1170
Originally posted by neotransotaku
I think it is the same logic as those robber barons had back in the 1880's--guilt or something along those lines. Andrew Carnegie was super rich but he was scared nuts about going to hell. Thus, to make up for the fact, he started to be charitable. So, I figure maybe the same logic with Buffet joining Gates. Well, maybe it isn't to that degree...but it's a start?


If not that, then the realization that there's only so much you can do for yourself with $44 BILLION. If you're dropping the kind of amounts Buffett and Carnegie were/are, you could effect real change in the world. Hell of a motivation, doing good simply because you can.
neotransotaku
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Originally posted by Arwon
Also, Neo... I think that's a rather uncharitable assessment of Carnegie's motives, don't you?
I guess I got the facts missed up no thanks to my AP US History education in high school. I recalled the "Gospel of Wealth" while I was writing that and for some reason remembered about reglion being a contributor to causing this philantrophy to take off even more.
Sin Dogan
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Originally posted by Arwon

Just to put this in perspective, this 37 billion dollars is about equal to Germany's defence budget, and could run Namibian healthcare for 50 years.

It's also 3 times the UN's annual operating budget.


Yea, that was of interest to me when I read it on BBC.

It's kind of sad how many people choose to ignore the fight against infectious diseases. And it's pretty goddamn annoying as well.
Arwon
Posts: 274/631		 Gates and Buffet, among others, helped to round up the funds to secure Russia's nuclear stockpile back in the day.

Also apparently Buffet's doing this because he doesn't believe in inherited wealth:

The man known as "the sage of Omaha" for his relentless success in investments said he always wanted to give the bulk of his fortune away.

However, he said the appropriate vehicle for doing so do had only become apparent in the past year.

"I am not an enthusiast of dynastic wealth, particularly when the alternative is six billion people having that much poorer hands in life than we have, having a chance to benefit from the money," he said.


Just to put this in perspective, this 37 billion dollars is about equal to Germany's defence budget, and could run Namibian healthcare for 50 years.

It's also 3 times the UN's annual operating budget.

Also, Neo... I think that's a rather uncharitable assessment of Carnegie's motives, don't you?
Sin Dogan
Posts: 660/861		 Yea, well a main obstacle in the fight against diseases is the corrupt pharmaceutical industry.
Rom Manic
Posts: 196/557		 I think more awareness and realization of the millions of cases of uncurable infections has finally opened some eyes aroud the world, and now those with power and money are taking steps to do the right thing.

With someone like Bill Gates working on these problems, it kinda sets an example for all those people with loads of money to do the same. They have all that money but nothing real to spend it on. Hopefully they'll follow in Mr. Gates's footsteps and strive for something better.

On a side note, I heard that the new breast cancer vaccine didn't get shipped over the border into Canada because the people who produce it couldn't get a decent price. It's a cure for a fucking cancer and you didn't sell because the price was wrong?!

Gahhh....
neotransotaku
Posts: 1391/1860		 I think it is the same logic as those robber barons had back in the 1880's--guilt or something along those lines. Andrew Carnegie was super rich but he was scared nuts about going to hell. Thus, to make up for the fact, he started to be charitable. So, I figure maybe the same logic with Buffet joining Gates. Well, maybe it isn't to that degree...but it's a start?
Sin Dogan
Posts: 658/861		 Ever since I started studying about infectious diseases, mainly malaria and HIV/AIDS, I have been interested in fighting these epidemics and pandemics worldwide through sufficient funding for necessary resources and in developing vaccines. Of course, someone my age isn't as able to take such a big step as Bill Gates is right now. He originally focused the foundation on HIV/AIDS and education but it has spread to malaria as well. A disease that we have a working vaccine for, while further mutations of the virus can kill much more than the millions each year.

I was happy to hear that Warren Buffet joined in on the fun.

But you gotta wonder(at least I do), what took them so long to start something like this? Talk amongst yourselves.
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