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Doritokiller
Posts: 88/369
Holy fuck. 105 hours on 100 pages.
ziffhasnoaim/password
Posts: 139/292
YEAH.

WELCOME TO MY PAIN
Thexare
Posts: 802/1104
Originally posted by ziffhasnoaim/password
We spent three weeks on Of Mice and Men. For reading it. Every day. 8-3.

A book that is like 100 pages long.

3 weeks.


Yeah, my English 9 class was like that, except it was only an hour and a half each day.

... wait a second.

8-3... 7 hours, 15 days (assuming you were off on weekends)... 105 hours for 100 pages?

What the hell?!
Cynthia
Posts: 3269/5814
Most books here come with a free code for online services.

I never used them. Most people don't and the teachers don't really encourage it.
Sweet Kassy Molassy
Posts: 65/886
On the other hand, you could have a situation like the physics classes here. You have to buy a course pack, a liscense for the online homework program, AND a new book. The beginning of a quarter always sucks that much more for having to buy books...
Cynthia
Posts: 3264/5814
Concordia, by the way, doesn't send out reading lists - you're told what you need to buy on your first day of class. That's anything from a $20 course package to a $120 book.

(And yes, there are screams of joy when a course pack is required. You can't resell them but $20-30 is a lot more acceptable than $80.)
HyperHacker
Posts: 2403/5072
Originally posted by ziffhasnoaim/password
If you want to pass any class you should do homework. It is part of school. Suck it up or drop out. Every language class at university level requires fucktons of work if you're not fluent already. Any good history class requires you to do additional research over and above the readings so that you learn good skills that will aide you in essay writing, etc.

Eh, I never failed a class because I didn't do homework.

Originally posted by spiroth10
dont complain -- I had a global history teacher last year that said I did NONE of my homework when I did it all. gave me, like, a 68 (Im in honors History). I DID IT ALL GODF***ING D*** IT. she said my friend was absent about 30 days (enough to fail) even though ALL HER OTHER CLASES HAD LIKE 10!!! Also, she did no homework, and nobody said she didnt.

Reminds me of my literacy exam that everyone has to take. I failed the first year because they lost half of my work and claimed I hadn't done it! I put it in the envelope, sealed it shut just like they said, and sent it in; when I got it back several of the assignments were missing and marked as not being attempted. I got it the second year though.

Another such story was the first semester of my last year. I went into my English class on the first day, they went over a lot of pointless shit like peoples' names, and then class was over. The second day the teacher handed out math textbooks. Turns out they'd changed the room number - they told me what it would be in July, before they actually made any plans - and hadn't bothered to tell me about the change. They didn't even notice when I didn't show up for English, and then the attendance sheet for that Math class had my name scribbled in at the bottom. Since nothing they'd mentioned the first day had anything to do with English or Math, I had no way to tell where I was supposed to be. My schedule was even printed with the wrong number.

But I just recieved my diploma today, so they can all go stick it somewhere.
ziffhasnoaim/password
Posts: 122/292
Originally posted by Colin
My friend got a book list at McGill last semester but it was only sent to her 3-4 days before class started; in other words, no readings were assigned but they wanted her to be ready to work on her first day in.


My school is the same way. It is painful. My reading list for Russian will only be available three days into the class.
Shadic
Posts: 203/528
My English class this last year (My Junior Year) was terrible.

My teacher (Who was cool, mind you,) couldn't really control the class, most people didn't do the work, etc.

Then our last Trimester, our class switched teachers, and we're being taught by the IB Coordinator. 2/3rds of our class failed, and he didn't give a shit. We had one essay that I got a C on, (I asked most of our class, and that was the highest anybody had.) and he didn't stop for those who didn't give a shit. It was the best taught English class I had probably been in so far.

I escaped with (What appears to be) a B+. Small chance that could go to an A-.

Class Average was about 50%.
Cynthia
Posts: 3252/5814
Hey now. Concordia really isn't that bad compared to McGill and is better in some areas. Of course, if you looked at pictures... well, to everyone who doesn't know the difference, picture big buildings (Concordia) vs. a huge, beautiful campus with lawns and gates to let you in and out (McGill).

My friend got a book list at McGill last semester but it was only sent to her 3-4 days before class started; in other words, no readings were assigned but they wanted her to be ready to work on her first day in.
ziffhasnoaim/password
Posts: 121/292
Well, Concordia I can believe

McGill I'm surprised by. Although that said, I was fortunate to have a teacher that dug that sort of style. I'm hoping that next year I'll have a prof. like that again. But taking Russian and German won't provide me with many of those opportunities.
Cynthia
Posts: 3248/5814
I expect my profs to forward me a reading list of non-core material so that we can study it on our own leisure to better enhance our learning. God knows that that is why I adored one of my classes this year. Teaching a core material only course lends students to laziness of mind and ethic.

...You do know that none of my friends at Concordia or McGill, myself included in that, have ever received anything like that, right?

Probably depends on the program.
witeasprinwow
Posts: 121/613
Originally posted by Xenesis
The quality of the education you guys are getting frightens me.


"Those who can't, teach."

I had a calc professor who said he actually wanted to be a serious mathemetician, but decided to teach after he got a D in calc 3. He was a good teacher, but still... It's disturbing to think that some people (not all...) are teaching not because they care about teaching, but just because they weren't good enough to do work in the field.

College is a little different, as most teachers will have PhDs. I had an American Government professor who had his own book as required reading for the class
Xenesis
Posts: 108/200
The quality of the education you guys are getting frightens me.
Sweet Kassy Molassy
Posts: 22/886
I've never managed to pass Technical Writing.

I drop it every time. I always get pissed off because it's a liberal arts class. I'm a senior in geology/gis and I have written serious papers for all of my 300 and 400 level classes and for several of the 200s. I can write a damned good paper. Any of those A papers would fail me in tech writing. Why? Because the class is fucking stupid and no one with a BA knows how to write a scientific paper. Instead of doing something interesting I am told to spend vast amounts of time in the library doing pointless research. No sir.

Most quarters I make sure that my projects are all related. My GIS and GPS projects will all be based on the area I'm doing whatever geology paper on. This saves me massive amounts of time AND strengthens my work for each individual class because whatever I'm working on is fleshed out and supported.

Can I attempt to use that work for tech writing? No sir. I get told that that is not how the class works and that it would be plagiarism. Plagiarism? Doing a writeup or overview for presentation of a project that is mine anyway is plagiarism? The exact same practice is perfectly acceptable and indeed encouraged in Technical Presentation. Technical Presentation pwns Speech btw.

*sighs* When will they make separate tech writing classes for BS and BA students?

I guess I'll take the damned class one more time during my last quarter here. Yeah, we're on the quarter system. It sucks more than you can imagine.

/end rant.
spiroth10
Posts: 13/145
dont complain -- I had a global history teacher last year that said I did NONE of my homework when I did it all. gave me, like, a 68 (Im in honors History). I DID IT ALL GODF***ING D*** IT. she said my friend was absent about 30 days (enough to fail) even though ALL HER OTHER CLASES HAD LIKE 10!!! Also, she did no homework, and nobody said she didnt.

seriously, this teacher is a nice person -- I thought she was a good teacher when class started. I just think she is seriously mentally insane. I think I have her again next year too. Thankfully, my final exam grade (99% I got 1/2 of 1 question wrong) is keeping me in honors by 1 point in my final average.

there are more stories to tell, but I'll probably fill up the mysql database if I typed them all in...
ziffhasnoaim/password
Posts: 119/292
That's a shitty and boring class then. A prof that doesn't push his students is just a filler. I expect my profs to forward me a reading list of non-core material so that we can study it on our own leisure to better enhance our learning. God knows that that is why I adored one of my classes this year. Teaching a core material only course lends students to laziness of mind and ethic.
Cynthia
Posts: 3238/5814
Any good history class requires you to do additional research over and above the readings so that you learn good skills that will aide you in essay writing, etc.

I disagree. All the history classes I've taken are about learning the core material; you need to pay attention to lectures and understand the textbook/readings. If you do that, you can get an A. The only time you need to (and should) go above and beyond is when writing an essay unless you're specifically told NOT to. (And yes, I have gotten the odd essay in various classes where we weren't supposed to use outside sources. I won't argue.)
ziffhasnoaim/password
Posts: 118/292
If you want to pass any class you should do homework. It is part of school. Suck it up or drop out. Every language class at university level requires fucktons of work if you're not fluent already. Any good history class requires you to do additional research over and above the readings so that you learn good skills that will aide you in essay writing, etc.
Cynthia
Posts: 3233/5814
IMO homework should only be assignments you don't finish or can't do in class; after the final bell rings is MY time dammit.

Depends on the class. In math classes you need to reinforce the ideas somehow; even if the work is optional, if you want to get a high mark you'll probably end up doing it.
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