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Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - Craziness Domain - I hate it when people refer to kilobytes as being 1,024 bytes, megabytes as 1,048,576 bytes, etc.
  
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HyperHacker
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Exactly, the only time anyone says "kilobyte" and means "1000 bytes" is when they're trying to sell you a hard drive so they can make it sound more impressive by using bigger numbers.
Jagori
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What do you mean? I was just responding to Squash Monster's comment about whole numbers not being special. Mathematically they don't have to be, but if you're counting discrete objects they are. I never said that meant that kilobyte = 1024 bytes.

Obviously, 'kilo' is a prefix meaning 1000, not 1024. I've known about the term 'kibibyte' for quite a while, but I don't really care enough to go through "what's a kibibyte?" every time I want to talk about multiples of 1024 bytes, which is quite often.
Alastor
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Originally posted by Jagori
In a computer, bits are atomic. It can't have 9.96578428 bits, and this is something to consider since the unit/prefix in question is generally used in reference to computers.
Did you, like, read NOTHING here?
Sukasa
Posts: 831/2068
The way I see it:

Kilobyte:
Common: 1, 000 Bytes
Actual: 1, 024 Bytes

...And so on.

I don't usually care which was I use them, and sometimes I switch them up several times a day, depending on what is most useful for me. Just like Darkslaya.
Deleted User
Posts: 14/-7750
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
It's like they're totally ignorant. It's especially annoying when they "correct" people who claim they're 1,000, 1,000,000, or whatever.


well, its just like saying 1000 meters instead of a kilometer....

Some people are just not lazy enaugh to do the conversions
DarkSlaya
Posts: 628/936
Anyway, who cares?

I just use whatever works when I need to be understood.
Jagori
Posts: 96/155
In a computer, bits are atomic. It can't have 9.96578428 bits, and this is something to consider since the unit/prefix in question is generally used in reference to computers.
Squash Monster
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Originally posted by NightKev
Originally posted by Squash Monster
Originally posted by NightKev
2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.

2^9.96578428 = 1000. Roughly, I rounded my number for your sanity..

When I said 2^x, I guess I should've specified that x = a whole number .
Whole numbers are only special because we arbitrarilly chose to use a whole-number based system because our minds are too weak to properly handle partial numbers.
Thexare
Posts: 695/1104
I think that really, the most important thing to say in this thread is "who fucking cares?"

Then again, I suppose this is in Craziness for a reason.
NightKev
Posts: 118/207
Oh. Well I forgot about that.
Alastor
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Yeah, but n is used almost exclusively to represent whole numbers.
NightKev
Posts: 112/207
'Cause they're both variables?
Alastor
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why not just say 2^n?
NightKev
Posts: 109/207
Originally posted by Squash Monster
Originally posted by NightKev
2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.

2^9.96578428 = 1000. Roughly, I rounded my number for your sanity..

When I said 2^x, I guess I should've specified that x = a whole number .
Squash Monster
Posts: 228/296
Right, this is us resisting the evolution of language.

Resisting it because it's being bloody stupid.
Alastor
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You are referring to the evolution of language, though. That's different.
Jagori
Posts: 94/155
The thing about language is that common usage becomes right even if it's logically wrong. Kilometer, for example. The first pronunciation listed there doesn't make sense phonetically (compared to centimeter, millimeter, kilogram, etc) but it's so commonly used that it got added to the dictionary.

How about the word "you"? It started out as a plural subject, and now look at how we use it.
Alastor
Posts: 5363/8204
Exactly. To my knowledge, the binary factor names (kibi, mebi, tebi, etc.) come from a contraction of ___ binary byte.
Squash Monster
Posts: 227/296
Originally posted by NightKev
Originally posted by Squash Monster
9.96578428
Respect Latin.

What?

Originally posted by NightKev
2^x cannot = 1000, EVER, in this universe.

2^9.96578428 = 1000. Roughly, I rounded my number for your sanity.


And the roots for those words you use, like kilo and mega? Those come from ancient languages and have well-defined meanings. Well-defined meanings that were invented long before we cared about base 2.
Ten
Posts: 127/261
Yeah seriously, what?
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