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| Schweiz oder etwas Posts: 1130/2046 |
I think I should make "This is bullshit." my new catchphrase after reading that article.
If, however, I do ever have kids, just to make up for all the unlucky sods who have kids when they're like 13 or 14 or are raped or do something that's equivalent in stupidity to thinking your first time having sex is an automatic one-shot no kid guarantee, I'm going to have them when I'm almost 40. |
| Pas'ra'chilli Posts: 11/58 |
Originally posted by Acrelvl Innocent until proven guilty. I'm not so eager to deliver judgment on people especially if I don't know all the details of the case. |
| Cynthia Posts: 2667/5814 |
Well, that would be an issue whether you were 12 or 32.
It's possible for it to be natural, I think... but the odds of a C-section are way up. |
| Skreename Posts: 519/1427 |
I personally think the whole 20-cigs-a-day smoking habit while pregnant is a bit of an issue, too.
This is probably just me being misinformed, but I'd think the whole 12-year-old-giving-birth thing would be a bit difficult, wouldn't it? I'd expect it to be a caesarian, but that's just me... |
| Rom Manic Posts: 177/557 |
To each their own...I personally don't think she should be ashamed that she's keeping the baby at all. She is showing more responsibility than even some Adults show these days, abandoning their children at infancy and such.
The only thing to be argued with is the fact that she is drinking at such a young age...Like, what the fuck, honestly? Has the movie "Thirteen" come to life or something? |
| Skreename Posts: 502/1427 |
I'd think common sense would tell you that the first time you have sex is not really different from the next... But... people are still stupid. I think the lesson here is more about drinking than about sleeping with people, anyway... |
| Cirvania Posts: 122/1181 |
Originally posted by Lilmario That does not excuse her for not having common sense. Drinking booze at the age of ten and smoking 20 cigarettes a day while pregnant certainly isn't thinking right, much less legal. Besides, couldn't her parents talk to her about it? I mean, sex education starts at home. But judging on the mother's reactions, she was probably just as ignorant as her. And about the baby-raping... People like this is why the death penalty exists. But it won't be really necessary, since their parents are most likely going to be brutally slaughtered in prison. |
| Simon Belmont Posts: 246/1773 |
part two doesn't disturb me at all, and really doesn't suprise me either. I'd love to take an axe to the parent's of the first one, though. |
| Lilmario Posts: 93/181 |
Originally posted by Colin You don't get sex education here til 2nd/3rd year, at 13 or older, in most schools in the UK. SHE DIDN'T KNOW 
But meh, there was a 5 year old in 1937 that gave birth  |
| Valcion Posts: 410/585 |
I hate humans.
I really, really do. |
| drjayphd Posts: 544/1170 |
SEEN IT. The baby daddy's been arrested, I believe, and charged with rape. |
| MathOnNapkins Posts: 462/1106 |
I read that story a few days ago, though not with as much dialogue from the girl and her mother. Incidentally this occurred in Edinburgh, Scotland, where my ex gf is studying at currently. This doesn't surprise me given the idiotic and sometimes horrific antics of young teenagers she's told me about there. i.e. young skinny white kids acting all thugged out. The father was probably one of those. |
| Cynthia Posts: 2653/5814 |
I'd start with the fact that she thought you can't get pregnant your first time.
We watched SO many PSA videos in high school and that myth was always one of the ones to be debunked, along with the classic one about the world's largest erection which was 2 metres long, with 3 people having to sit on it to break it. ...No, I didn't make that last line up. It was debunked in one of those videos. |
| Thoughtless Posts: 1681/2405 |
....
Just when you think people can't get stupider, out comes another article proving me wrong. Um. That is just fucked up. There are so many things wrong with that situation I just can't start. Somehow, the only thing I can think of is to simply go over there and punch everyone in the face. |
| Cynthia Posts: 2652/5814 |
Let me pull out article #2 now, of something equally disgusting, surreal and hilarious. I should preface this by saying it comes from The Sun, which isn't exactly the UK's most trusted newspaper - but the story's apparently true. Here we go...
A CHAIN-SMOKING schoolgirl told last night how she fell pregnant during a drunken romp - at the age of just 11. The petite youngster found she was expecting after losing her virginity to a teenager during the boozy one-night stand. Lighting her third roll-up cigarette and watched by her proud 34-year-old mum, she confessed: "I didn’t think I’d get pregnant because it was my first time. "But I’m really excited and looking forward to being a mum." The girl, who is now 12 but cannot be named for legal reasons, is due to become Britain’s youngest mother when she gives birth next month - four months before her 13th birthday. She comes from a large family in West Lothian and has an eight-month-old brother who will become an UNCLE before he turns one. Showing her huge baby bump under a cropped white T-shirt and tiny black mini-skirt, the girl added last night: "I can’t wait to take the baby swimming and out for walks in the pram. "I think I’ll be able to cope as I’ve had lots of practice looking after my brothers. "I know how to feed a baby its bottle and I can change nappies. "But I panic and cry if they’re sick and I don’t like giving them a bath because I’m a bit frightened." The youngster had unprotected sex with a boy of 15 in Edinburgh on a night out with pals last August. The father, who cannot be identified, may face legal action. The girl feared she might be pregnant and visited a doctor three times for tests, but each proved negative. Only when she bought a supermarket home-testing kit did the truth emerge. She said: "When I saw the two blue lines, meaning it was positive, I just started crying. "I was paranoid about what my mum was going to say and just frightened about being pregnant too. "I knew straight away that I couldn’t have an abortion because that’s something I don’t believe in." The girl eventually begged a female relative to break the shock news to her mum, who had given birth to a boy of her own just days before. She said: "I was upset and so was my mum, especially as she’d just had my wee brother. I didn’t really talk to her much at the time, either, so that made things even harder. "We had a big argument and I ended up locking myself in my room then running away to a friend’s. "It was really hard, but it’s brought me and my mum closer, which is good." The girl’s mother immediately pledged to support her daughter, regardless of what she chose to do with her baby. The dark-haired youngster said: "My mum’s been great. I knew she’d stand by me no matter what, but I told her straight away I was keeping the baby. "The social worker suggested I got rid of it or gave it away after it was born, but I’d NEVER do that." The girl, who is in only her first year of secondary school, lives in a council flat and began smoking when she was nine. She still puffs up to 20 ciggies a day, despite being eight months pregnant. Yesterday she told how she took up drinking at just ten - sometimes downing a potent cocktail of Buckfast and vodka on nights out. She said: "I can give up smoking at any time, but I don’t find it affects my pregnancy. I also don’t drink any more." The girl has excitedly been converting into a nursery the bedroom she currently shares with her sister. She has hand-picked rolls of lilac wallpaper covered with pink, purple and silver hearts. Her most cherished possession - a cuddly teddy bought by her dad - still takes pride of place there. Stacked against the walls are boxes full of baby goods, including a pram. The mum-to-be, who is hoping for a boy, went on: "I’m keeping well now that my morning sickness has passed - but I’m worried about getting stretch marks. "My tummy has got so big I mostly have to wear stretchy clothes. But I still squeeze into my jeans. I love them too much to stop wearing them." The girl's parents, who split up several years ago, have vowed to stand by her all the way. She said: "My mum has come to both my scans with me, which were amazing. "The first time all I could see was a heartbeat, but then I had a scan at 12 weeks and fell in love with my baby straight away. "You could see its head and body. It was brilliant. "I’d like a wee boy as girls are too crabby. I’m not sure what I’ll call him, but I like the name Leo." The mum-to-be has quit school after a string of exclusions for fighting with fellow pupils and says she doesn’t want to go back. She now takes part in an outreach programme, receiving lessons at a local community centre. But she admitted: "I know I’ll have to face school again eventually. "I haven’t had a hard time from anybody about the baby yet, but I think a lot of the older pupils will slag me off when I go back. "My mum has said she will look after the baby so I can go to school. "I don’t know what I want to do with my life when I leave. I used to want to be a nursery nurse, but now I’m not so sure." She added: "I’m enjoying being pregnant - even though I get a bit of a sore back and sore ribs. "I like feeling the baby kicking, but the first time it moved I got a massive fright. I didn’t know what was happening till my mum explained it to me." Last night her mum insisted she is looking forward to becoming a gran. She said: "I’m not ashamed of my daughter at all - in fact, I’m proud of her for keeping her baby. "I know she’s worried what other people will say. but she can walk out there with her head held high. "She’s grown up a lot in the last few months. "At first I wasn’t too happy about becoming a gran. But now I’m used to the idea, I’m really looking forward to having another baby about the house. "I know she’s scared of going into labour and it’s even given her nightmares - but I’ll be there to hold her hand. She’s still my little girl and we’ll get through this together." Britain’s current youngest mum is Dorset-born Jenny Teague, who gave birth at 12 years and nine months in 1997 - also after a one-night stand. |
| Skreename Posts: 489/1427 |
Umm... typically it's almost impossible for babies to get pregnant, seeing how they don't ovulate... means that it has to be somewhat congenital, or just a super-deformed tumor. |
| Cruel Justice Posts: 1141/1637 |
It's like he just gazed at his daughter's future and saw the guy who would take her virginity. "Onos! I cannot let him deflower my daughter like that! I must take drastic steps!" (5 minutes later) "Who's your daddy? Who's your daddy?"
(sorry, *gets shot*) That's practically fetus-rape. Completely unforgivable and yes, he should get his balls chopped off. You know how disgusting it is when a baby gets pregnant? It HAS been done before... That's pretty much how it is... (warning, disturbing images) http://www.ogrish.com/archives/baby_inside_baby_Nov_09_2004.html |
| dcahrakos Posts: 427/499 |
something sounds a little fishy, within the first day of birth the mother would be pretty tired...and if it was just him, then why the hell would he have a baby just to do that to it...I dunno but anyway its pretty sick. if they/he did do it, then chop off his balls. |
| Rom Manic Posts: 176/557 |
As a father, I would be raging over the fact that they would even consider me as a suspect. And thus, I feel the test was inaccurate as I believe he felt the same way, whether he showed his anger fully or not, your heart can still have an off-beat any time when in that state. |
| MathOnNapkins Posts: 454/1106 |
The whole reason I find it to be sketchy is that crimes like these are usually premeditated. Someone who works in a hospital would have more time to contemplate such an act than a father who has the availability of a new baby daughter. Just sayin' is all... I'm not going to rush to judgement when the evidence doesn't exactly say for certain that any rape even occurred. All they mention was damage to the baby's rear. That could happen for any number of reasons I think. Mishandling by hospital workers, maybe a problem in the womb, a deformity, an undetected problem during the birthing, etc.
Although I did hear that the father took a lie detector test and that's what led them to him. Doesn't mean he's guilty though. |
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