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| sandrocklq Posts: 5/210 |
In Florida we don't need to tamper with the ballots. Apparently rudimentirary knoledge of Microsoft Access is all you need to program the ballots to go your way. I have no faith in the political system. |
| ||bass Posts: 292/594 |
Nobody was ever was impeached over a blowjob. In fact, nothing even remotely related to Monica had anything to do with the impeachment procedings. Clinton was brought before congress on the sole issue of obstruction of justice in the matter relating to Jennifer Flowers. Somehow though, everything thinks this had something do to even remotely with Monica. IT DIDN'T. Don't belive everything you hear from the sensationalist media. |
| Silvershield Posts: 215/587 |
Originally posted by Cheveyo ChowilawuGood enough for me  .
Originally posted by Cheveyo ChowilawuNow now, don't be so quick to snap at him...it's not like he was dodging the question because we're in some sort of debate and he wasn't able to defend his position or something, he just didn't have the information I was after. |
| Thexare Posts: 536/1104 |
Originally posted by Young Guru There we go, that's the answer we were after (I think). See, geeogree, that wouldn't have been so hard. |
| Young Guru Posts: 90/279 |
It was brought into court because of a sexual harasment suit. Employers, or anyone seen to be in a more powerful possition, can be tried for sexual harasement for having relations with their subordinates. It's the state of the world we live in. The fact is, when he was being questioned (under oath), he decided to lie instead of telling the truth. Purjury is grounds for impeachment, and impeachment does not necessarily result in expulsion from office. The situation for which he committed purjury was not one of enough consequence to merrit removal from office, just a mark of shame from impeachment. |
| Rom Manic Posts: 137/557 |
I think this article points out that it was Kerry who tampered with the ballots.... |
| Thexare Posts: 527/1104 |
Originally posted by geeogree Yes, but what Silvershield is asking is why it was brought up in the legal system to begin with. So, yeah, way to dodge the question, geeo. |
| geeogree Posts: 158/207 |
SS: it had to do with the fact that he was fooling around with someone he worked with....
and then he lied under oath about it... THAT is why he was impeached.... because he lied under oath... yeah, it was about a blow job, but he still lied under oath.... which I know see that Vyper already mentioned
anyway.... the point is that Monica Lewinski worked for Clinton.... that's generally seen as a no no |
| Arwon Posts: 202/631 |
I think this is where I express contempt for the crazy American electoral system and their tendency to misplace ballots or be open to abuse. This specific incident may or may not have happened, but when you have federal elections being run at a state or county level instead of centrally, you KNOW there's going to be fuckups and fraud happening somewhere. |
| Silvershield Posts: 201/587 |
I kinda meant it as a real question...on what grounds was information regarding his extramarital affair brought into a court of law? |
| Vyper Posts: 224/575 |
Probably not, but that's not my issue. Take it up with the judge that tried him. |
| Silvershield Posts: 198/587 |
I know, but why should his personal sexual relations be an appropriate topic for him to be questioned about under oath? |
| Vyper Posts: 223/575 |
Originally posted by SilvershieldNo, Clinton was impeached for purjury. He lied about the situation with Monica Lewinski, which was later proven to be true. |
| Ziff Posts: 1051/1800 |
It's not even illegal. It's just not cool. |
| Silvershield Posts: 197/587 |
...yeah, it doesn't really suit my taste that Clinton was censured when his only crime, effectively, was cheating on his wife. That's a terrible thing to do, sure, but it doesn't justify any sort of action taken on his political or occupational life. |
| Ziff Posts: 1050/1800 |
An impeachment should be held on better grounds than a blow job or having a failing war. If more comes out about Bush's actions (the Plame affair and stuff like that are disturbing) before his term is over then impeachment should be considered. However, he is just being a bad president. |
| beneficii Posts: 100/310 |
OK, Bill was horrible, Bush is horrible. They're all horrible. They all need to get impeached. The only bad thing about Bill's impeachment was that he didn't get thrown out and the worst thing about Bush is that he hasn't been impeached and thrown out yet. They all need to get shaken up and everything. |
| Young Guru Posts: 88/279 |
I don't understand the obsession with impeaching bush. It's only happened twice before, and even though I consider myself to be a whole lot more liberal than most, I don't think he should be impeached. If he were to be impeached because of this someone would have to find a link that bush told them to stuff the ballot. Just because some people stuffed ballots to help the man they wanted to win an election win (and I highly doubt that happened, but even if it did) doesn't mean bush will get punished for it. |
| Skydude Posts: 2358/2607 |
People compared Bill to JFK, and my response to that is that Kennedy at least had good taste. I mean, seriously, infidelity is wrong, but if you're going to do it, Marilyn Monroe seems a good choice, not some frumpy intern...
There are a number of factual inconsistencies and, as usual, misleading statements in that, such as suggesting that all 14,000 reported ballots in that district were invalid...they said it was a strongly Republican area...he probably would've gotten a similar boost anyway, EVEN IF these dubious reports are to be believed. I get a bit suspicious of things that take this long to come out, with, again, dubious and biased sources. |
| geeogree Posts: 154/207 |
yeah, that would be a bad thing
I'd rather see Bill than Hillary really... at least he got some head  |
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