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[quote=HyperHacker]Yeah, I knew nothing huge was going to happen. I so would have cut the power for 5 seconds if I worked in a power plant though. ;)

Really, anyone who knows hex should have been able to tell why there was nothing special about the year 2000 to any of these computers. 2156, maybe, but I really doubt any such problems won't be fixed by then. >_> Now, 2038 is the real problem, which is when we'll hit Unix timestamp 2,147,483,648; many computers will mistake it for -2,147,483,647 (around 1902). A few might last until 2106 though (timestamp 4,294,967,296, which they'll interpret as zero).

What's scary is that unlike Y2K, Y2.038K isn't a load of crap. I found this source code somewhere, dunno where:
<code>#include <stdlib.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <time.h>

#define STRFTIME_BUF_SIZE 256

int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
	time_t t;
	int sec;
	for (t = (time_t) (~0UL >> 1) - 10, sec = 0; sec < 20; sec++, t++)
	{
		char buf[<z>STRFTIME_BUF_SIZE];
		strftime (buf, STRFTIME_BUF_SIZE, "%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S", localtime (&t));
		printf ("%s\n", buf);
	}
	return 0;
}</code>
This uses standard time functions to print the time that corresponds to each timestamp starting at Jan 18 2038 at 10:13:57 PM. Once it hits 10:14:08 PM, it crashes! This may not happen depending what compiler you use (I used MinGW), but if it does, then any program compiled with that compiler that tries to use these functions will crash at that time. >_>

Also some old programs use Binary Coded Decimal, so right now they actually think it's the year "A6". They could have problems after 2059 ("F9") at which point they'll roll over to 00.[/quote]

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DarkSlaya Posts: 551/936	Nothing broke at our home. But then again, we had a party at a school we rented
Skydude Posts: 1906/2607	Nothing at all really happened at my house...and it was also one of the most boring New Years celebrations I've ever had, and I've had some dull ones.
Tarale Posts: 743/2713	Hmm... the only thing that broke that night as far as I recall was a few glasses and bottles, and several braincells in my head thanks to alcohol excess. Not as many braincells as my companions though o.o
Alastor Posts: 4166/8204	Originally posted by KATW Our old microwave died that night... Awesome. Actually that reminds me. My blender died that night.
Kattwah Posts: 1580/3349	Our old microwave died that night... Other than that, nothing else hapened... what a letdown...
HyperHacker Posts: 1641/5072	Yeah, and they'd have stored those two digits as either a plain old byte which will keep going until 2156, or a BCD value which will keep going until 2060.
Skydude Posts: 1876/2607	HM, for someone who knows as much about computers as you at least seem to, you seem to have missed the whole point of why there might have been some serious problems at the time. Basically, the programmers for computers had only set aside bytes for two digits, and put a 1900 in front of them.
HyperHacker Posts: 1625/5072	Yeah, I knew nothing huge was going to happen. I so would have cut the power for 5 seconds if I worked in a power plant though. Really, anyone who knows hex should have been able to tell why there was nothing special about the year 2000 to any of these computers. 2156, maybe, but I really doubt any such problems won't be fixed by then. Now, 2038 is the real problem, which is when we'll hit Unix timestamp 2,147,483,648; many computers will mistake it for -2,147,483,647 (around 1902). A few might last until 2106 though (timestamp 4,294,967,296, which they'll interpret as zero). What's scary is that unlike Y2K, Y2.038K isn't a load of crap. I found this source code somewhere, dunno where: `#include <stdlib.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <time.h> #define STRFTIME_BUF_SIZE 256 int main (int argc, char **argv) { time_t t; int sec; for (t = (time_t) (~0UL >> 1) - 10, sec = 0; sec < 20; sec++, t++) { char buf[STRFTIME_BUF_SIZE]; strftime (buf, STRFTIME_BUF_SIZE, "%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S", localtime (&t)); printf ("%s\n", buf); } return 0; }` This uses standard time functions to print the time that corresponds to each timestamp starting at Jan 18 2038 at 10:13:57 PM. Once it hits 10:14:08 PM, it crashes! This may not happen depending what compiler you use (I used MinGW), but if it does, then any program compiled with that compiler that tries to use these functions will crash at that time. Also some old programs use Binary Coded Decimal, so right now they actually think it's the year "A6". They could have problems after 2059 ("F9") at which point they'll roll over to 00.
Skydude Posts: 1868/2607	I honestly didn't get it until your first post in this thread. Clever, certainly. And Kyouji, yes, I know no one really expected nuclear missiles...I just brought it up because it was kind of the ultimate in the 'doomsday' scenarios envisioned by people, even if that particular one was seen by crazies.
Danielle Posts: 3073/6737	I still don't think anyone gets it. look at his postcount
Forte.EXE Posts: 321/1503	I remember that... before New Years came about, half my neighborhood switched off the power cause a rumor is that "all TVs, anythign electronic will explode as soon as the ball hits the ground" ... and guess what? All for nothing! Well.... unless you factor out all those fireworks I launched to the air making it sound like missile explosions after the clock struck midnight... hmm, maybe that's why no one bothered to call the cops when my house got robbed by a bunch of punk-ass teenagers three years ago.
Ten Posts: 106/261	I always wondered how the computer thinking it was 1900 cause any proplems. I know some cash redisters refused to sell some food dued to it expirering in 1902 but that's about it.
Sinfjotle Posts: 1057/1697	You know, I think I blocked it out. I've spent every new years with close personal friends, but I know I didn't on year 2000. Hmmm... what the hell did I do...
Danielle Posts: 3069/6737	Originally posted by asdf That was awesome. All the paranoia...it was hilarious seeing people freak out over what turned out to be nothing. The episodes of TV shows and all the pop culture that came about that parody it that came around were also awesome. The best part is that it actually had some truth to it, because some minor technical glitches did come about. In this topic, we talk about our experience with the Y2K Bug, whether it personally affected you, affected people who influenced you, or some other variation of the sort. We also discuss things you did (i.e.: parties, and use detail) at the the beginning of the new millennium. cough2000cough HINT HINT
Thoughtless Posts: 1283/2405	Aside from my mom talking about it everyday, it really didn't affect me. I wasn't worried not the least and if something did happen. Oh well.
Alastor Posts: 4116/8204	Originally posted by Skydude Well of course some minor glitches would come about, everyone knew that...but no nuclear missiles firing or anything...but it made prodigy classic shut down NO ONE expected nuclear missiles. No one unretarded, anyway.
Skydude Posts: 1855/2607	Well of course some minor glitches would come about, everyone knew that...but no nuclear missiles firing or anything...but it made prodigy classic shut down
Squash Monster Posts: 184/296	My grandpa turned off the power in the house just as the ball dropped on New Years Eve that year. He had almost the entire clan fooled. I heart my grandpa.
Alastor Posts: 4113/8204	I was never worried, as an old computer of mine had totally screwed up a few years prior and the situation actually came up. I spent the day after laughing at the fools.
asdf Posts: 2000/4077	That was awesome. All the paranoia...it was hilarious seeing people freak out over what turned out to be nothing. The episodes of TV shows and all the pop culture that came about that parody it that came around were also awesome. The best part is that it actually had some truth to it, because some minor technical glitches did come about. In this topic, we talk about our experience with the Y2K Bug, whether it personally affected you, affected people who influenced you, or some other variation of the sort. We also discuss things you did (i.e.: parties, and use detail) at the the beginning of the new millennium.

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