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| HighSorceressDelial Posts: 20/26 |
I know I know....but was it anywhere as cool as V for Vendetta? I think not...
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| Ziff Posts: 867/1800 |
...There is a movie version of 1984, silly pants! |
| HighSorceressDelial Posts: 19/26 |
I absolutely *loved* this movie. The imagery, symbolism, themes, etc. were so well done and so thought out, and during the entire movie I kept thinking "This is just like 1984!" (Which I was thrilled about, because it's one of my favorite books). I knew they'd never be able to make a movie about 1984 and get it to be a popular movie, simply because it doesn't have the right kind of action/romance that people would like, or could appreciate in a movie; however, V for Vendetta is almost like they replaced the main two characters with likable, messed up people that were products of the society that they lived in, and gave it a decent ending. So I'm kind of ignoring the fact that there was a comic, and I'm just considering it to be the movie version of 1984 .
I don't really see how anyone can consider it a way that they were promoting their views though, because this isn't a recent topic. These issues have been going on for hundreds of years, and to say that it's in direct association with today's politics is like disregarding everything that's happened throughout the course of history.  ... |
| Anya Posts: 628/1176 |
Saw the movie, I kinda liked it. Not the best one I've seen and not the worst. My hubby saw it with me and saw all the signs at who they were attacking and I'm njust watching it as a movie and not letting it bother me, influence me or anything like that. People should let little things like a movie get to them and they should learn to think for themselves. But what do I know.  |
| Alastor Posts: 3882/8204 |
V for Vendetta in 15 minutes. |
| Davros Posts: 24/310 |
I saw the movie and it was great, even if there wasn't much action. It showed how a fascist regime can affect and change the lives of the people forever. And how a misterious character can also motivate a revolution.
There were some things that I didn't expect in the movie... Spoiler: A parody of V and the Chancellor on T.V. with the Benny Hill theme playing. LOL Evey's incarceration was a test from V. A final fight between V and the Chancellor. Instead, Creedy captures the Chancellor and shoots him as an agreement to get V unmasked, it doesn't work out, so a shootout breaks off that leads Creedy being killed by V. But at least the movie ended with a blast (literally). |
| Crashman Posts: 53/80 |
Well, the enitre Comic series was written in response by the author against the ultra conservative Thatcher administration in london in the late 80's early 90's. Several high end government offices and poeple were quoted as saying they wished to erradicate homosexuality. The author feared that it would indeed be a slippery slope, and his "who would they come after next" reasoning was well justified.
He also expresses that the early comics weren't nearly as well written as the latter ones, but the movie writers tried to use elements from them all to make the movie. Such is life. |
| Alastor Posts: 3810/8204 |
I liked it.
Some of the cutaways could have been done better, but taken for what it is it was quite good. And Alan Moore is crazy. The film still had the anarchists versus faschist angle... Certainly, they call them different things, but that's really what it boils down to. It's not a spot on adaptation, but then such things almost never make good movies and the idea probably would not have been a great idea in the first place, no? |
| Young Guru Posts: 73/279 |
I thought that this movie was very entertaining. It did have some good points about the problems with totalitarian governments completly controlling the lives of every citizen. Very 1984-ish. And the screen play for the movie probably wasn't written in the 80's so it's very possible, and highly likely that this movie is a political comentary on current events, though overblown and overly worrisome but still, that's what art is about, getting ideas out and making statements about what you feel about current situations. I did like the few action scenes and the photography was well done I thought. And I loved the 'V' speach at the begining and all his monologues throughout the entire movie, I guess it's cause i liked all the movies and stories that he was quoting. |
| NSNick Posts: 832/2228 |
I liked this movie a lot. I was worried at the beginning, because I thought that long 'V' monologue was indicative of how V was going to speak for the whole movie. |
| Random Posts: 3/3 |
Before I say anything, I'm going to say this: V for Vendetta was the best movie I've ever saw. Ever.
I don't know how people got the impression that this movie was about American political assparty A vs. American political assparty B, because it ain't. When I think about it, that's rather arrogant of both parties. It was about a fascist government that needed some serious blow'd up. V and supporters didn't even wave around any particular ideological doctrine, other than that their current government sucked, and like I said needed some serious blow'd up. That was one of the things I really liked about the movie, no generalized political labeling, you could make your mind up based on their actions. Finally, the ending of that movie was the acme of all endings, seeing parliament blow up while the 1812 Overture was played in the background brought a tear to my eye. Apparently, the graphic novel was published between 1982 and 1985 (wiki), so that essentially kills all theories about symbolism and representation to do with current events. Though by all means, speculate about events during or pre dating the novel. |
| Kingpin Posts: 187/709 |
Originally posted by SkyonOriginally posted by Kiraxo + Well, his assistant mentions that they got a girl for him, but she is a bit older than usual, to which he replies "Not too old I hope." Thats why Portman is in the room waiting on him with that outfit on. |
| MathOnNapkins Posts: 338/1106 |
Unless you're a fascist I don't see how V for Vendetta would outright make you walk out of the movie. Though I have to lol at how Alan Moore's (the creator of the comic series) comments very much mirror this discussion:
Originally posted by wikipedia I read the synopsis for the whole comic series, and well yeah it's a bit different, yet not that different. However, I'd have to say I had doubts about V's sanity while watching the film. Whether he was morally justified and they of course address that by using Evey's reaction to his murderous revenge excursions. The main difference was that the movie was liberty versus a totalitarian "christian"* regime, whereas the comic seems to have the theme of anarchy versus tyranny. In other words, the film is sympathetic to democracy and the comic is sympathetic to anarchy. Isn't this how Starship Troopers began as well? Some teacher asking a student to explain why democracy failed? The film was 2 hours and 20 minutes long. I was so thinking I was going to get Kill Bill'ed and have to go see another movie in a year to find out what happened. But I'll say the movie was flawed, and doesn't always seem to keep you updated on how many days pass between scenes :(. And what was up with V speaking in all 'v' words at the beginning? It seems terribly out of place, like something that was supposed to be edited out. Finch's montage was terribly disorienting as well, as I couldn't tell if the things he was talking about and envisioning were actually happening or whether it was what he was predicting was going to happen. Like, I thought the little girl in the glasses got gunned down but then I was pretty sure I saw her alive in a later scene. The montage was so confusing I thought the movie was about to end at any moment. |
| Ziff Posts: 835/1800 |
Originally posted by Skydude Because I'm a huge fan of the comic AND have seen the movie? |
| Xeo Belmont Posts: 100/1016 |
The only deep meanings I paid attention for, and saw were symbolism. From the simple fact of never seeing V's face (because it's pointless, it's not WHO he is that matters), and seeing the dead people pull off his mask towards the end, etc.
I mean I'm sure there's some deep meanings to the movie, obviously. But overall I thought it was a great movie. I can't believe some of my friends compared it to King Kong however ... The movie was told interestingly also. V the main hero, was not the main character. My friend's told me, that apparently the next Spawn movie is going to take on this style (Spawn beaing the hero, but not the person the camera follows most of the time). |
| Deleted User Posts: 263/-7750 |
Originally posted by Kiraxo + That's fair then; I don't remember the pedophile part... |
| Skydude Posts: 1443/2607 |
Well, I discussed this with a friend who's a huge fan of the comics and this is what he told me.
So why don't you be quiet? |
| Ziff Posts: 834/1800 |
Skydude, have you read the comic book or seen the movie?
No? Be quiet. |
| Kingpin Posts: 186/709 |
Since the thread is marked spoilers, I am going to say this. The priest was a pedophile, and was also one of the people responsible for the experiment on him.
If you thought this was a movie about a superhero that wanted to destroy conservatism, then you should watch it again. |
| Skydude Posts: 1439/2607 |
Ziff, honestly, you're just being rude now, and you're wrong about part of it besides. Like I said, the creator of the comic books, Alan Moore, demanded his name be taken off because the Wachowskis BUTCHERED the ideas.
Basically, the comic books had the terrorist main character as an monstrous antihero of sorts. Someone who's a really sick, awful person, even if he's fighting a tyrannical society, and that what he's doing is really wrong even in the face of all this, to make people think. The movie, on the other hand, has made him into a "Robin Hood" kind of character, trying to make the audience sympathetic and making his terrorism justified. Basically, it's the Wachowski brothers' way of saying "the terrorists are the good guys!" rather than actually spur any real thinking on the issues. |
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