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HyperHacker
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I'd be wary of buying a premade system that cheap. I really doubt it can be upgraded beyond having a bigger HD and maybe twice as much RAM, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it's slow and breaks down quickly.
firemaker
Posts: 142/194
You will find that with low cost machines buying from big brands is actually cheaper than building. However you can'treally customise. But if you want a top end computer with about $1500 then it will be cheaper to buy the parts yourself.
emcee
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Originally posted by ||bass
Building your own from parts is -ALWAYS- cheaper. Remember, Dell has to pay hundreds of employees to assemble the machines. You don't have that cost. If you buy newegg parts, you can match any Dell or HP for only about 2/3 the cost.


Maybe for a high-end system, I don't know. But I know this isn't the case for low to mid range systems. The manufactures may have alot of extra costs, but they also get huge discounts for buying in bulk and making exclusive deals with hardware venders. For instance, I just added all the parts for a $299 dell to my newegg shopping cart. I chose the very cheapest of each brand and it still came to $321.82 before shipping. And that's without an OS.

I'm sure if you really look around on ebay, froogle, and cnet you could probably bring that price down, but it still wouldn't be much cheaper. To me the benefit of building your own is more in being able to pick exactly the parts you want and get higher-end versions of part the manufactures tend to skimp on, like the motherboard or the brand of hard drive (I don't want anything with a Maxtor in it).
||bass
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Building your own from parts is -ALWAYS- cheaper. Remember, Dell has to pay hundreds of employees to assemble the machines. You don't have that cost. If you buy newegg parts, you can match any Dell or HP for only about 2/3 the cost.
Guy Perfect
Posts: 200/451
Don't be mistaken: Building a computer from parts is CHEAPER than buying one pre-made. Remember: much of the cost that goes into a computer includes the software, and Microsoft really likes to charge money for each COPY (that's right: identical byte-for-byte replicas) of Windows that you install using a given CD, so the price goes up from there as well.

You can, however, buy a computer without any software installed. I saw one the other day for $200 USD that had a 2.4 GHz processor, 256MB of RAM and a 40GB hard drive. Wasn't too shabby, but it was also very low-end.
emcee
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Originally posted by oblirator1
so your saying if i buy computer part seperatly i would save money?


No, probably not. Building your own just lets you customize parts that manufactures don't let you. Such as motherboard, power supply, case, and the brand of your drives.
oblirator1
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so your saying if i buy computer part seperatly i would save money?
firemaker
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I will use AMD if it is for 64 bit or opertron but I don't mind Intels. RIght now I'm using an Intel petium 4 but my laptop is a turion.

But if you ask me for an overall result AMD just wins. But Intel do have good marketing techniques.
Guy Perfect
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You can't take a new processor and plop it into an old motherboard; they're generally incompatible. Check the socket type on your motherboard and see if you can get a better processor that works with it. If not, then you'll have to buy a new motherboard to go with a new processor.

And a new motherboard will probably mean that you'll have to buy new RAM as well, since older motherboards use generic SDRAM where newer motherboards use DDR SDRAM and DDR2 SDRAM.

If you're looking to upgrade your processor, chances are you'll end up replacing most of your computer in the process. Still, I recommend that you buy parts to build a computer as opposed to buying a stock computer from a manufacturer. Better "bang for the buck," as they say.
oblirator1
Posts: 21/37
well i dunno now.
the reason is i need a new processor is that my pc is too slow.
i need it to run todays high run apps such as flash 8 and microsoft office.
emcee
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Originally posted by oblirator1
But I've Made a Decision.I'll Save My $ And I'll Buy Another Processor.


I thought you were trying to decide what processor to buy, not whether to buy one or not. And how does that save you money?
neotransotaku
Posts: 884/1860
You did it again...

If english is not your native language, I could sort of understand doing that. But if english is your native language, I wonder how you write your essays...
oblirator1
Posts: 20/37
Right.
Sorry Bout That...
||bass
Posts: 222/594
Originally posted by oblirator1
I Am Intending To Put My Coursework And Other Stuff That's Why I Need A New Hard Drive.I Doubt It That I Would Get Far With A 7GB Hard Drive.
I Recon I'll Get A Nvidia Graphics Card.
But I've Made a Decision.I'll Save My $ And I'll Buy Another Processor.
Why in God's name do you capitalize every single word in your sentences? Stop it. It makes your writing impossible to read.
oblirator1
Posts: 19/37
I Am Intending To Put My Coursework And Other Stuff That's Why I Need A New Hard Drive.I Doubt It That I Would Get Far With A 7GB Hard Drive.
I Recon I'll Get A Nvidia Graphics Card.
But I've Made a Decision.I'll Save My $ And I'll Buy Another Processor.
emcee
Posts: 241/867
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
Originally posted by emcee
newegg.

The one online store that still only ships to the US.


Really? Wow, that's stupid. Oh well, there's still ebay.
HyperHacker
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Originally posted by emcee
newegg.

The one online store that still only ships to the US.
||bass
Posts: 221/594
If you're going to do AMD, you might as well get an NForce mobo and get an NVidia. Atleast then you have hardware specifically designed to play nice together. That and the NForce motherboards tend to be the best desktop AMD boards anyway.
Tarale
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I think the question that needs to be asked here is What do you want to do with the system?

If you tell us what you want the system for and what you plan to do with it, then people here will be able to give advice that is better tailored to you.
emcee
Posts: 236/867
Originally posted by oblirator1
My Current Motherboard Has 4 RAM Slots Which Only Supports 128MB Cards So I Would Probibly Get One 512MB One For My New Motherboard.Pointing Out The Graphics Card..
What If It Was An Intergrated One?


Well, there's an easy wat to find out. Where do you plug in your monitor? Is it up in the top rectangle with the mouse, keyboad, and usb stuff, or is down below that on its own seperate thin rectangle?
If its up top, that means its intergrated into the motherboard, if its down below, that means its on a seperate card.
Originally posted by oblirator1
But If It Doesn't Have An Intergrated One, Im Not Sure Which one To get Really.

Well, now were making progress. You've gone from just AMD vs Intel to AMD vs Intel and ATI vs Nvidia.

Its impossible, though, for anyone to give you specific advice on what to get and how much it will cost, though, without knowing a little more about how much you're looking to spend and how powerful of a system you're trying to build.
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