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| AlexAR Posts: 36/226 |
Heh..might as well post my 2 cents as well.
So what is this forum called? Game Creation. Making games. What is a game? A game can mean lots of different things to people. But the bottom line is, games are entertainment. Fun happy good times. They don't have to have humor or be wildly creative, they just have to entertain. A game DOES NOT have to be super-ambitious to be good. The simplest of games can have as much success as any of the more involved ones, which are very few and far between...and not very good either. A very simple "Hero vanquishes evil Lord to save World" plot may SOUND very bad and unacceptable, but a game's simplistic plot does not hurt itself if the game's mechanics are solid, intuitive, bug-free and accessible. This can be done with a minimal amount of headaches if you just don't get overly-ambitious. We live in an amazing time. Game creation is o so accessible to anyone now..ANYONE..even non gamers can whip up a damn good game. With Zero knowledge of programming or even a rudimentary know how of "Game Buzzwords." One just has to remember that what your making is supposed to entertain. Like Squash Monster posted before, Finish your game, play thru it, if you don't have as much fun as you would want, polish it up. If things ever get even the slightest bit confusing to you, then you can bet your ass, other gamers will be scratching their heads while playing your game. Simplify. After you have the basics done, (Ideally, you would know this after your first game is released and well received) then you can ask people for suggestions on how to improve upon this solid foundation and get more complex..which when handled correctly does add to the play experience. |
| GeckoYamori Posts: 22/114 |
I believe you've confused 'game' with the word 'plot'. |
| Squash Monster Posts: 124/296 |
If you do the following "rules" in order, your game will rock.
My idea of quality in game crafting is extraordinarilly demanding though, so if you're going to cop out, do the ones in bold, at least. For the sake of the children. Rule 1: Finish your game. Rule 2: After you're done, pack up the file, back it up in a dozen places, and don't touch it for a week. Rule 3: After you've neglected your finished game for a week, bother to play your own game Rule 4: If you get bored partway through the game, fix it. If anything else is wrong, fix it. If you can think of anything that'd improve the game that you haven't done yet, that's a problem -- fix it. Rule 5: Repeat steps 2 through 4 until you don't find anything to fix. Rule 6: You're wrong. Repeat steps 2 through 4 one more time. Rule 7: Give your game to one completely normal gamer, one Metroid sequence-breaker or similar game-breaking bastard, and, if you can find one, someone who has easy to read emotional responses to just about everything*. Have the first two take notes. Hang out with the last one while the game's being played and take notes yourself. Rule 8: Change everything you see fit to change. Rule 9: Repeat steps 2 through 4 again. Rule 10: Don't release your game until it's polished! *I know this girl who makes panicked squeeks or other odd noises at the drop of a hat. She's the best beta tester ever. |
| Chaos Force Posts: 218/1056 |
This link below may also help some people with level design. Dragonbrethen pointed out to me and its pretty good.
http://www.pavilionboards.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3031 |
| Lord SkyLart Posts: 154/307 |
Hmm...this could help some people. I wonder if my plot is right. Mine is about a bunch of the other acmlm members being attacked by Acmlm's army. Acmlm is the main villian. You got to deafeat him and free the rest of the acmlm boards. |
| ||bass Posts: 95/594 |
I'm tired of playing weird games with crappy/bizarre plots. I also found this great article on how not to make a shitty game. You all must now read this.
Name: Writing Your Plot Author: Neosiris Category: Writing Okay, I know how hard plot can be to come up with, so I have found this list of 36 general plot idea, so that you don't always have some person getting their parents killed and are looking out for revenge. I hope this will help some of you. Also remember, a character must always have motives, Otherwise, why not just give up? * Supplication - Persecutor, Suppliant, a Power in Authority * Deliverance - Unfortunates, Threatener, Rescuer * Revenge - Avenger, Criminal * Vengeance by Family upon Family - Avenging Kinsman, Guilty Kinsman, Relative * Pursuit - Fugitive from Punishment, Pursuer * Victim of Cruelty or Misfortune - Unfortunates, Master or Unlucky person * Disaster - Vanquished Power, Victorious Power or Messenger * Revolt - Tyrant, Conspirator(s) * Daring Enterprise - Bold Leader, Goal, Adversary * Abduction - Abductor, Abducted, Guardian * Enigma - Interrogator, Seeker, Problem * Obtaining - Two or more Opposing Parties, Object, maybe an Arbitrator * Familial Hatred - Two Family Members who hate each other * Familial Rivalry - Preferred Kinsman, Rejected Kinsman, Object * Murderous Adultery - Two Adulterers, the Betrayed * Madness - Madman, Victim * Fatal Imprudence - Imprudent person, Victim or lost object * Involuntary Crimes of Love - Lover, Beloved, Revealer * Kinsman Kills Unrecognized Kinsman - Killer, Unrecognized Victim, Revealer * Self Sacrifice for an Ideal - Hero, Ideal, Person or Thing Sacrificed * Self Sacrifice for Kindred - Hero, Kinsman, Person or Thing Sacrificed * All Sacrificed for Passion - Lover, Object of Passion, Person or Thing Sacrificed * Sacrifice of Loved Ones - Hero, Beloved Victim, Need for Sacrifice * Rivalry Between Superior and Inferior - Superior, Inferior, Object * Adultery - Deceived Spouse, Two Adulterers * Crimes of Love - Lover, Beloved, theme of Dissolution * Discovery of Dishonor of a Loved One - Discoverer, Guilty One * Obstacles to Love - Two Lovers, Obstacle * An Enemy Loved - Beloved Enemy, Lover, Hater * Ambition - An Ambitious Person, Coveted Thing, Adversary * Conflict with a God - Mortal, Immortal * Mistaken Jealousy - Jealous One, Object of Jealousy, Supposed Accomplice, Author of Mistake * Faulty Judgment - Mistaken One, Victim of Mistake, Author of Mistake, Guilty Person * Remorse - Culprit, Victim, Interrogator * Recovery of a Lost One - Seeker, One Found * Loss of Loved Ones - Kinsman Slain, Kinsman Witness, Executioner Here are Just a few Tips to Keep in mind when thinking up your next Epic Journey, Or Maybe Lame Attempt at a game.... -You don't have to be wildly original. Most RPG's follow a tried, tested and true formula. For example, Final Fantasy games have always gone by the "small group against a great big empire" formula. You could do this. Hell, you could probably build a great game off that formula if you give it your own unique twist! -Write something, anything! Take a pen and paper, and just write anything that comes into your head. You may surprise yourself. (Or in the case of Game making, Try Just Programming and see where it goes, or perhaps you want to write your plot before hand) -Read some folklore from all around the world, from Japanese ghost stories, to the werewolf legends of Germany. After you decide to travel the world hunting demons for a living, you may come up with some spiffy ideas. It doesn't hurt to skim over a fantasy paperback or two either. Of course, the very best thing to do when brainstorming is to play other RPG's -Get your ideas together with a like-minded buddy and talk 'em over. Don't flat out refuse anything he has to offer your RPG, instead, say something like "that's cool and. . . " Who knows, with the right encouragement, you might come up with a real gem between the two of you. Of course, you'll have to put him in the credits. |
