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Kutske
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A rarely-noticed Easter egg tying in with the console's SNES roots lies in the PlayStation's controller design. The four face buttons on the right (Circle, Square, Triangle, and X) seem to be based off the magic attack cast by the Magikoopas found in Super Mario World and Kamek in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. The spell consists of three spinning geometric shapes (a circle, a square, and a triangle) followed by a trail of sparks that appear X-shaped.

It should also be noted that Nintendo's N64DD used the Circle/X/Square/Triangle buttons, which is why you can find the symbols in Animal Crossing (originally Animal Forest for the DD) when typing. But read the topic next time; this was already mentioned three or four times.
Pikawil
Posts: 100/135
Ninty and Sony because after all, it was Ninty's "fault" if the Playstation was born...
Kutske
Posts: 130/171
HyperHacker, bless you for introducing me to the acronym tag. You can all expect me to use it like a fiend in the coming weeks and months.
HyperHacker
Posts: 900/5072
Originally posted by GeckoYamori
Nintendo relies on cheaply manufactured hardware, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony who sell $900 hardware for a third of the price.

I heard the biggest cash-saver is that they make a lot of it in their own factories, often even design the entire thing themselves. Not sure how true that is though. I know they usually use customized versions of existing technology, though. Most of their CPUs are custom-made for them. (NES=2A03, a 6502 with a sound system or some such; I think N64's and Gamecube's were customized; Gameboy=Modified Z80 with some instructions added/removed; GBA=ARM7 without MMU; NDS=ARM7+ARM9 cores in one chip, also without MMU.)

Important thing is cheap manufacturing doesn't mean cheap quality. Most Nintendo products are like tanks with controller ports. (Yeah, I say that too much... but hey, it's true. I know if I got a PSP instead of a DS, it wouldn't still work by now.)
Sin Dogan
Posts: 191/861
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Oh, in that case, WTF? I guess if they were humans, Sony would be a con man and Microsoft would be guy who can easily be tricked into doing anything.


AND NINTENDO WOULD BE MY BEST FRIEND.
NSNick
Posts: 413/2228
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Microsoft, and I think Sony, actually lose money on consoles and make it up on games. Not sure if Nintendo does the same.


Aye. Over all, Microsoft lost about $4 billion dollars with the original XBox.
GeckoYamori
Posts: 17/114
Nintendo relies on cheaply manufactured hardware, as opposed to Microsoft and Sony who sell $900 hardware for a third of the price.
Alastor
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Yes, Nintendo does the same, though I think they lose less than the others. It's a common practice, since you've got so many more games than systems.
Ziff
Posts: 426/1800
The simple fact of the matter is that they can AFFORD it. They could afford to buy and enslave a small nation.
HyperHacker
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Microsoft, and I think Sony, actually lose money on consoles and make it up on games. Not sure if Nintendo does the same.
Ailure
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Originally posted by Cymoro
Microsoft will buy Nintendo in 5 years.
I heard a rumour that Stave Ballmer did go over to Japan, and wanted to buy Nintendo.

It didn't go well, and I think they made X-box after that. If the rumour is true, that's it.

Meh, one is pretty much having monopoly over the desktop market (When it comes to Servers, it's mostly various BSD's and NIX's instead of NT ). The other one delivers rootkits on their CD's. And the third is very aggresive against unlicensed devolopers.

Eh, I think Nintendo had the biggest profit gain from it's console market, if you count DS/GBA as a "console". Then, Sony and Microsoft is bigger, due to their efforts in other markets. Microsofts made least profits out of the three, but they can afford that obviously...

...or actually, Microsoft hadn't done well econimically the few last year according to a few sources. Not that they will go bankrupt anytime soon.

And i'm somewhat with Ziff... competition is good. If a company have a monopoly (or at least, a really big share of the market), they don't really try their best... until they start losing it.
HyperHacker
Posts: 875/5072
Oh, in that case, WTF? I guess if they were humans, Sony would be a con man and Microsoft would be guy who can easily be tricked into doing anything.

Come to think of it, if Sony were just one person they'd probably be in jail by now.
Kutske
Posts: 115/171

Simon Says: Hmmm, something's not right here... If Nintendo is a guy, then Sony would have to be a girl for them to have a child. If Sony is a girl, microsoft would have to be a guy for the same obvious reason. But if both Nintendo and microsoft are guys and would attemp having a child, someone could get seriously hurt!

All three aren't made human at the same time -- in each pair, one turns male and one turns female. Or maybe they use asexual division or something, I don't know.


GeckoYamori: Sony manufactured the SPC chip for the SNES, and the Playstation was originally supposed to be a CD addon for the console. For some unknown reason Nintendo decided to cancel the contract to partner with Philips without even notifying Sony about it, ultimately causing the biggest turning point in the history of the industry.

My god, what if Nintendo and Sony went through with the NPX, and then Sega and Microsoft teamed up to produce a second Dreamcast, and Square still went to Nintendo's opposition console? Nintendo vs Sega would still be on, we might only have those two consoles in the mainstream, Sonic games wouldn't be multi-console, THPS would have went second-party, someone would have found a cure for cancer, George Bush wouldn't have been elected president, 9/11 wouldn't have happened...just think of how different the world would be today...


Yes, Zamboni Flying Machine.: I'd like to see MORE competition. Otherwise Nintendo is going to be forced into a corner because there is no such thing as competing against Sony and Microsoft in the Grand War of Fiscal Attrition

More competition howso? A fourth console? A third handheld?


HyperHacker: Besides, any teaming up of two of the three would pretty much mean death to the third, meaning no competition. Without competition, prices skyrocket and quality plummets.

I just suggested that if they were humans, which child would you most like to see produced -- the question isn't about two of the three companies permanently joining forces.
HyperHacker
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Last I heard DS made up 55% of all console sales in Japan.

Anyway how about none of the above? Sony makes shitty hardware and simply can't be trusted, and Microsoft... hell, you've all used Windows. I don't mean to come off sounding like a fanboy, but just look at their history. PSX, PS2 and PSP all had/have major hardware problems, with early versions just plain not working and later ones having a 1-to-2-year life span. Then there's the fact that they don't give 2 shits about their customers (deliberately making their products incompatible with everything else, virus-infected CDs, and ridiculous markup). Xbox/360 wasn't all that great in the hardware quality department either, and seriously, they really need to learn how to check buffer lengths. Nintendo's hardware, save for maybe the NES, can survive just about anything and generally lasts between 5-10 years or even longer depending how well you take care of it. (The only real problems I've seen is the cartridge connectors coming loose, which can be solved by jamming folded-up paper in with the cartridge, or in the NES's case another cartridge and the Gamecube's sticky eject button which can be solved with any random book.)

Besides, any teaming up of two of the three would pretty much mean death to the third, meaning no competition. Without competition, prices skyrocket and quality plummets.
cpubasic13
Posts: 124/1193
*looks at avatar*
*looks at thread*
*laughs*

Originally posted by Monochromatic feline
(personally, I've seen DSes and DS games outselling PSP games and PSPs and accessories by far at Toys R Us around here, if that's any indication of the market)


Eh, where I am at, PSP is the better system. A bunch of sports-loving graphics-need-to-be-realistic bastards who think Nintendo has the better games, but would still rather play their PSP. Allow me to repeat: they (and I quote)"know that Nintendo has better games", but they don't want the DS because it doesn't have good graphics, won't let you watch movies, and won't let you listen to music. And they say for the new systems, they will get the 360 and PS3. They won't get the Revolution unless it was 50 dollars. I ask why not, and they say it is because it is made by Nintendo.*

Therefore, if two companies got together to make a successful alliance based on the above information, it would be Microsoft and Sony just from the consumers. While it wouldn't be a good alliance since they both are more concerned with other matters than the games itself, it will succeed from a huge fanbase who like the companies work of the Playstation and Xbox. If Nintendo was in partner with Sony or Microsoft, the latter company would catch their attention.

Now, that was for a successful partnership, not one that I would see. For my opinion, it would be Sony and Nintendo for reasons already mentioned.

*All information obtained through opinions from school, old job, and MySpace conversations. Therefore, flaming over this bit is just going to make you look stupid... since how are you going to argue with other people's opinions if you can't talk to them?
Schweiz oder etwas
Posts: 424/2046
Uhm.... The low projected price of the Revolution combined with the fact that the Xbox 360 is setting itself up for a possible commercial failure and the iron-hard advent of the PS3 suggests that Nintendo may actually have a foothold in the coming console war. The DS is a fierce competitor with the PSP (personally, I've seen DSes and DS games outselling PSP games and PSPs and accessories by far at Toys R Us around here, if that's any indication of the market), and the Gameboy Advance is STILL an amazingly strong platform that will continue to bring in large amounts of revenue for a long while.
asdf
Posts: 315/4077
Wait. How can three MANLY COMPANIES bear children? Oh? You mean...OH!

Well, Microsoft and Nintendo can't be that bad. We've all seen VTech, and it isn't so bad. Sony and Microsoft, means defective computers and equipment. But Nintendo and Sony? That means kiddy electronic equipment. Disturbing...X_X
Ziff
Posts: 414/1800
I'd like to see MORE competition. Otherwise Nintendo is going to be forced into a corner because there is no such thing as competing against Sony and Microsoft in the Grand War of Fiscal Attrition
Keitaro
Posts: 150/373
Didn't they already try to buy them, and the deal never went through? Ehn, I vaguely remember something like that well, whatever. That'd be pretty lame if they did, to say the least. If I ever see Master Cheif anywhere near a Smash Bros. title, someone is going to get hurt.
Cymoro
Posts: 179/-244
Microsoft will buy Nintendo in 5 years.
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