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Jomb
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Cymoro - So you've sunk to name-calling? You're black, so? Are you in a gang? If you're not then i got no problem with you that i know about.

Thayer - WTF?

Snow Tomato - There is no one coming after me now, but at one time there was, and it was black gangs. I was beat up pretty severely for refusing to give them money or become one of their "bitches". I probably would have been raped eventually except the aryan nation got involved and put a stop to it. How it makes me racist that i accepted help when i desperately needed it from the only people around that would help is beyond me. I've stated repeatedly that i'm not in the aryan nation, i never agreed with what they stood for, but found their company preferable to being made into some gang-banger's property. I no longer know any of those guys, but i was friends with some of them when i was in prison. The only reason i brought them up in the first place was to try to explain why someone might belong to such an organization, other than the argument that they are some how genetically "the scum of the earth", it often-times has more to do with environment. If racism is a problem people are serious about changing then environments such as this need to be changed. Likewise with black gangs, they are a serious problem which needs to be addressed, and its not as simple as "those evil black men", i think that one probably has to do with a severe poverty environment in the cities. We have become way too racially sensitive when i say i was beat up by a bunch of black men who targeted me because i'm white, and everyone suddenly assumes i'm racist. I was just stating a fact, that is what happened, like it or not. I did'nt say all black people are like that, anymore than all white people are racist, but there are definately racists in any race. I admit i am biased against gang-members, having been assaulted by them before, but that bias does not extend to good black people who are not involved in gangs. You seem to not understand what its like in a high level prison, which is what i'm talking about, and thats understandable because you've never been there. I would'nt understand what i'm talking about right now either if i read this 10 years ago. Obviously we dont live in a feudal system, and who would want to? Yes this is America, which is why its even more shocking that this kind of shit is allowed to go on, even in our prison system, but i've been there and i know for a fact that it goes on every day in there and everyone who could do anything about it turns a blind eye, and everyone else is unaware of it, or doesn't care.
Tommathy
Posts: 102/339
Perhaps I need to refine my sarcasmometer.

Cymoro, I didn't know you were black.
Snow Tomato
Posts: 215/798
Since when are there people comming after you that you have to protect yourself from? This is America... we don't practice fuedalism. And if you are... I'd seriously consider changing your lifestyle around a little bit.
Deleted User
Posts: 277/-7750
MY BIG NOSE MAKES IT CHALLENGING BUT YET I STILL USE MY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CONTROL THE WORLD MARKET AND FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO DO MY TWISTED BIDDING.

Oy vey.
Cymoro
Posts: 208/-244
Man, those cops they keepin' me down. The man is one giant conspiracy, and they're out to get the aryan brothers. REPRESENT.

P.S. I'm black, asshole.
Jomb
Posts: 58/448
Ideally groups that beat the shit out of anyone (minorities or not) would be targeted by the system. Unfortunately, within the system, if it is brought to their attention they basically laugh at you and tell you to leave them the fuck alone and deal with it yourself, unless you get a new guard or someone who is actually trying to do their job. Then they pull out their little handbook and follow what it says to the letter. Which entails both the victim and the perpetrators being but in the hole and punished. Then when the victim gets out they are now a snitch and will wish they had'nt done that.
Alastor
Posts: 2439/8204
This thread makes my head hurt... It makes my head hurt very much...
Cymoro
Posts: 207/-244
HEY

LET'S SAY THAT GROUPS THAT BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF MINORITIES ARE TARGETED BY 'THE SYSTEM'

THAT'LL TOTALLY HELP THEIR CAUSE

(black people suck) GO DISCRIMINATION WOOOOOOO
Jomb
Posts: 57/448
drjay, yes i was talking about prison, and not some little minimum security one either. I've never seen Oz so i cant say anything about it, but i've had to live there before and you would'nt believe the absolutely sickening shit that goes on in there and people get away with in there everyday. I could tell you some things from 1st hand experience which you probably would'nt believe.
There are some white gangs, but they are few and far between (ever counting the aryan nation as a gang, which the system does). You dont want to know what happens to those wanna be gansta "wiggers" when they get sent up the river.
Cymoro
Posts: 202/-244
Originally posted by Thayer
What do you do when the gangs in your area are entirely made up of white folks? :O

Spoiler:
You get their parents to cut off their allowance.






AlQuaeda is possibly the best thing to happen to Allah's green Earth. They defend me against the capitalist people in America.
Deleted User
Posts: 276/-7750
What do you do when the gangs in your area are entirely made up of white folks? :O
drjayphd
Posts: 203/1170
...if you're talking about prison, I'm pretty sure Oz wasn't a documentary...
Jomb
Posts: 52/448
Jin - Lets hope you never have to find out how they can offer protection. I come from a very different background than you, i've literally been to hell and back. Let me tell you something about hell, it is a very racist place. If you are a white man, and you go to hell, you will now be in the minority. gangs are in the majority, mostly black gangs. If you are a white man on your own it is a simple fact that you will get approached by a gang, usually a black one. You may find yourself with a few really bad choices to make, such as giving them everything you have for the rest of your time there and obeying everything they tell you to do, becoming some gang-members "wife", getting the shit kicked out of you on a regular basis, being raped, possibly killed, or you can hang out with the aryan nation. The gangs will now leave you the hell alone, because they know it just is'nt worth it to have to deal with a bunch of big muscular white dudes willing to stab them, which is what would happen if they messed with you and the aryan nation was involved.
I myself am not racist, i have some friends who are black right now. I do not agree with the aryan nation on almost anything. They are still human beings though. And when you are in hell, sometimes you have to choose the lesser of 2 evils as a means of survival. Obviously the rules are different here in regular society. I'm not advocating you join the aryan nation, all i'm saying is there is a forgotton world inside the justice system where they really have protected many a white guy from some terrible shit, its these conditions that help perpetuate the whole thing, and you probably would'nt understand until you were getting your ass kicked by a bunch of big black gang-bangers who singled you out because you are white and the only people who are willing to stand up to it are the aryan nation.
Arwon
Posts: 81/631
He is right though.
Thexare
Posts: 270/1104
Cut the flaming, Dogan. You're normally a very good member; I don't want you getting banned over stupid shit.

And I think that I'm going to do what Dogan should have, and not reply to that.
Sin Dogan
Posts: 214/861
Originally posted by Jomb
I dont know nothing about white power groups in predominantly white neighborhoods, i never had contact with any of them. But i know from bitter experience that white power is alive and well within the justice system, and under those circumstances it just about has to be, because when it comes down to life or death you cant pretend to be blind to the facts that those black guys in those gangs are out to get you and the aryan nation really can protect you from them. At one time i thought, like most of you do, that a white power group is a sick thing and completely despicable, but i'll be damned if when i was getting my nose broke by a gang of crips or whatever the hell they want to call themselves, it was'nt some dudes from the aryan nation who stepped up and helped me. Despite all that i dont really agree with them on most issues, but i dont really despise them like i used to either. I can see where they're coming from now.


What the hell kind of crap are you spewing? How do white power groups offer protection? This is single handedly the most idiotic post in the history of acmlm's. YOU ARE A MORON!!!
Ziff
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Originally posted by Dracoon
1920s was just the immigration increase and the start, or the rapid growth, of the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't see how that has to deal with media imposing racism.


Well, it was the second start of the KKK under William Simmons.

Regardless it was ignoring it, thereby giving it tacit approval, during the 1920s that led to the various regimes strengths. When the poor are in a vacuum of leadership they turn to blame. And when society is in such a vacuum whoever can point out the blame the best is the leader.
Ryoku
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Originally posted by Jomb
I dont know nothing about white power groups in predominantly white neighborhoods, i never had contact with any of them. But i know from bitter experience that white power is alive and well within the justice system, and under those circumstances it just about has to be, because when it comes down to life or death you cant pretend to be blind to the facts that those black guys in those gangs are out to get you and the aryan nation really can protect you from them. At one time i thought, like most of you do, that a white power group is a sick thing and completely despicable, but i'll be damned if when i was getting my nose broke by a gang of crips or whatever the hell they want to call themselves, it was'nt some dudes from the aryan nation who stepped up and helped me. Despite all that i dont really agree with them on most issues, but i dont really despise them like i used to either. I can see where they're coming from now.


I agreee with you on this, except for the fact that it's not only blacks who are in gangs. I meen yah media and pretty much everything else makes it seem like a vast majority of gang memebers are black, but there are equally other races involved in such acts.
Sinfjotle
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1920s was just the immigration increase and the start, or the rapid growth, of the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't see how that has to deal with media imposing racism.
Ziff
Posts: 432/1800
Originally posted by Dracoon
Racism is a very stupid thing, it'll start to disappear if T.V. didn't keep bringing it back up. Really it'd be better if the media ignored racism cases where it really wasn't racist, they're just making a fuss.

Seriously, T.V. made me watch my mouth around black people for a while, now I don't give a fuck at all. Now if some "gangsta" came up to me and started saying a bunch of shit, I'd probably be watching my mouth more because my mind would be going "what is this guy saying...?"


Go back and study the 1920s.
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