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| Danielle Posts: 1579/6737 |
Why not? If someone offers me coffee, I better get it. The coffee. >8( |
| Kutske Posts: 112/171 |
Snow Tomato: How could the word coffee be sexual by an innuendo? I can't think of anything. A man walks his date home after the evening and she asks, "You wanna come in for some coffee?" She ain't talking about Mocha Java. |
| Uncle Elmo Posts: 92/308 |
Well it's possible to have a LD relationship without ACTUAL physical contact, but you do have to have it implied othrwise the other person will stray. You can use your collective imaginations here  (Hey I have to hone my writing skills somehow, besiides I find it deeply alluring *blushes*) |
| Snow Tomato Posts: 173/798 |
How could the word coffee be sexual by an innuendo? I can't think of anything.
I still don't think that a romantic relationship can exist without being able to kiss the person. And this is comming from someone who has experience a long distance relationship.. the relation didn't use to be open.. I wasn't involved with anyone but him for a whole year. Maybe I'm weak, but sometimes you just need to be held and kissed. I felt so alone that year.. because he couldn't be here with me. It depends on the nature in which you kiss that could make it sexual or not. There's the "I love you and care about you alot" kiss... and there's the "I want to get into your pants" kiss. That could be the difference in a sexually driven or not-sexually driven relationship.. |
| Bella Posts: 126/169 |
There can be a relationship without sexuality. Look at those long distance relationships. Those people might have seen eachother on a sexual level but it's not on a daily basis. Just some people can deal with it and others can't, like me. I've had just an emotional type of relationship and it sucked either way  . |
| insectduel Posts: 269/768 |
To me I don't think Kissing is Sexual and I think it is a possible that you can make relationship without sexuality. insectduel will go for it. Maybe! |
| Kutske Posts: 104/171 |
Cruel Justice: I don't think kissing is sexual, more like cuddling to me. Sure, you can have an abstinant relationship and kiss. To me, an intimate relationship cannot be without kissing. "Relationship" is a very general word. You could have a relationship with a friend or a family member but not an intimate one. Intimate just means personal or close -- not sexual. Just like the words it or coffee aren't sexual by nature, they only become so through the use of innuendo. I tend to think that "relationship" needs to be paired with a qualifier, or replaced altogether, such as romantic relationship for the former, or friendship for the latter. |
| netscape Posts: 47/90 |
Given my current troubles I'm hesitant to speak. However you find someone who you want to get ever more intimate with on nonsexual levels, and they reciprocate, then you have a potential stairway to nirvana. However be guarded, something like that also great potential to hurt if it don't work out. Enjoy the water, but keep an eye out for sharks. I speak from past experience on both nirvana and sharks.
Just my 2 cents. |
| Cruel Justice Posts: 557/1637 |
I don't think kissing is sexual, more like cuddling to me. Sure, you can have an abstinant relationship and kiss. To me, an intimate relationship cannot be without kissing. "Relationship" is a very general word. You could have a relationship with a friend or a family member but not an intimate one. |
| Black Lord + Posts: 56/273 |
Okay...
While I think I'd be fine without having sex in a relationship, I know that probably isn't true anymore. I mean... when I was still a virgin, I wouldn't of cared, but now that I'm not a virgin anymore... sex kinda lost it's sanctity (sp). I mean, it just doesn't mean too much to me anymore it seems. I mean, yeah it's fun, and all, but hell, both of us are just doing it to get off and relieve sexual tension that builds up when we're not having sex. It's not romantic, it's lustful. Meh... Kinda a random jumble there. |
| Anya Posts: 326/1176 |
Originally posted by Snow Tomato Yep, been there. They thought the same thing when I was still a virgin at 19. |
| Snow Tomato Posts: 124/798 |
Well, personally.. I do enjoy cuddling, holding hands and such over sex.. which explains why I'm nearly 17 and still a virgin. Alot of people would consider that impossible where I live.
There is a boy who I have that kind of relationship Kutske described. Last night he held me and we sang Third Eye Blind songs together in his friends car. And, well.. that's it. He was like, my first real romantic relationship.. but it's kinda been lasting even when we're not together. It's alive in our eyes and in our actions.. never sexual ones.. but it's something that lingers. I can't explain that relationship if I tried. Oh, he painted me yesterday to.. he's an artist. Yup.. |
| Kutske Posts: 100/171 |
You know, Grey, I could have sworn I already posted something insightful and charming in this topic, but I suppose I've yet to do.
*in a moment, is wearing a kabuki mask, flowing white robes and long, purple satin gloves* Now, it appears that we're talking about two different things in this topic -- first off, a romantic relationship without sexual involvement, and secondly, a romantic relationship without any sort of physical affection whatsoever. However, I tend to think of the term "Platonic love" as meaning a non-romantic and non-sexual relationship with physical affection (Mulder and Scully in the early episodes). So already, we're confusing ourselves. I believe the complexity of human interpersonal relationship allows for all possibilities, somewhere at some time, under some circumstances, so of course, to say "no" in response to the question would be silly, making the question itself useless. A better question, one that might actually give us some insight, would be, "Could you ever see yourself in such a situation?" As for me personally, the answer would be yes, in fact, I'm genereally disinterested with sex, not due to lack of a drive - in fact, I find that sexual release deletes the cache of my conscious thoughts, so to speak, and allows me to accomplish my greatest creative feats - but due to a preference for hand-holding, cuddling and such. This is true of romantic and non-romantic relationships alike. In the non-romantic field, I simply enjoy touching and being touched, it's a sense I feel is overlooked by most people on a day-to-day basis. In fact, I have this sort of relationship with someone who I am quite close to and terribly fond of. I suppose we both just want the same thing; someone to hold while watching a movie late at night, or someone to share a bed with, without sex being involved or romance complicating things. I think we fufill a parenting role for one another; as a child, whenever you're feeling sad or scared, uncertain or confused, or even just whenever because it feels good, you run to a mother or father for a hug. Now, while many people overlook it, deep down, this sort of feeling never goes away, not even for adults themselves. I think a lot of sexual problems stem from this fact, that adults have no one to run to for a hug, for comfort, because they always let jealousy and romance and sexuality get in the way, and then, these pent-up and un-dealt with feelings spill over into sexuality, causing all sorts of confusion and dysfunction. But to be an adult and still (or for the first time, for some of us) have someone like this...it's quite lovely. I encourage others to try and form a similar relationship with someone; we feel free to persue romance and sexual relationships with other people, taking comfort in the fact that we'll always have each other. I think...that's love, in as true and honest a form as I've ever seen it. In the sphere of the romantic, I find simply holding someone as they hold me to be much more intimate and gratifying than any sexual act itself. Not that I am utterly opposed to sex, not at all, it's just that it comes secondary to me, whereas I think for most people, the sex is primary and the cuddling is secondary. As much as I tout them, I think words are utterly useless in some circumstances. Simply telling someone that you love them, that you care about them, that you feel safe with them, that you want to stay close to them isn't sufficient, and I think physical intimacy can greatly make up for what words can't say. And of course for me, like so many things, all this stems from the whole "childhood" shabazz, but that's another show. |
| Schweiz oder etwas Posts: 382/2046 |
Can't wait til Kutske sees this...
Of course it's possible. Hell, it's in fashion nowadays for girls to "save themselves for marriage". However, that's a rather ignorant answer. DD's got more of a right idea, IMO, with the broadening of sexuality to include any kind of affection. I think a situation like that could be expanded and referred to with a nice episode or two of Fruits Basket. Watch that and you'll see that relationships and attraction can certainly exist without even the barest bit of physical contact between the two parties. It's also an adorable anime. |
| drizzt do'urden Posts: 47/57 |
I think it's possible, The two party's could decide to wait till the time is right, Like you know after high school or college. Or something like that, if it's because of that reason then I think it's totaly possible to do.
It's just that some people cant do that for some reason |
| Ziff Posts: 381/1800 |
Well - I think he meant a non-physical relationship.
However I think that the term platonic is thrown around a bit too much nowadays and has lost the potency of its meaning. |
| Snow Tomato Posts: 113/798 |
Originally posted by Anya This happened to me to. Except he even went so far as to tell me it WAS because I wouldn't have sex with him. Diick. I think it's possible, but not likely. It's human nature to want to express sexual feelings with each other.. so eventually in any really really serious relationship (that's going to last for a while), it's going to happen. In my honest opinion. |
| Uncle Elmo Posts: 76/308 |
Technically speaking aren't all LD relationships, ones with no physical sexuality (of course there are ways of overcoming that, but no actual physical contact occurs). If that's the case, then yes, it's possible. But I think eventually, for any romantic sort of relationship to last, then some sort of outlet for sexual feelings has to occur - whether that be by cheating on someone else or otherwise. |
| Anya Posts: 320/1176 |
Kissing and making-out doesn't always lead to sex, you know. I had a relationship throughout middle/high school (off and on) and we never had sex. Course, the guy cheated on me (most likely b/c of not having sex) but I just didn't want it at the time. |
| Danielle Posts: 1406/6737 |
Yeah, it's called a Platonic relationship. It's based on spiritual feelings, not sexual ones.
Learned about it last year. Linky, if you're confused or something. |
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