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What gets me about this is that people just kind of brush this off as some silly crackpot who is basically harmless. Yet if the tables were turned and some religious person was suing an atheist because he didn't believe, you know that everyone would be up in arms and ready to riot. It's a really nasty double standard.

There are nutty left-wingers all the time who are on this crusade against religion and they are seen as harmless or even beneficial! Yet if a religious authority ever tried to fight FOR religion in a court, they would be demonized by the media as trying to crush religious freedom.

Remember, it's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Just because you don't belive in something, doesn't mean you don't have to deal with people who do. The world is full of people who disagree with you. That's life.

Guys like this are no better then radical fundamentalist zelots like the Taliban who try to impose their beliefs on others.
Xeruss
Posts: 86/309
Do you ever see Catholics, or christens going after atheists saying, "We're gonna sue you cause you don't believe anything, and that’s wrong!" No, that does not happen, and if it ever does they'd probably say, "Just cause we don't believe doesn’t mean you should persecute!"
I've never seen people file lawsuits over kids being lied to about Santa, or the Easter Bunny. If he doesn’t believe, that doesn’t mean the rest of the world can't.
candrodor
Posts: 2/35
I think you're all taking this too seriously~ There's no way he will win, agreed. But, he does raise a good point. Some people believe the Vatican, whatever they say, and you could argue that that puts the Vatican in a position of trust, like teachers. If a teacher taught you something wrong, you'd be annoyed, right? So, if the Vatican is teaching something wrong, that's equally bad, no? To be honest, I feel the Vatican does teach some untruths, even according the the Bible, regardless of whether the Bible is the whole truth or not.
Kutske
Posts: 88/171
"You mean you guys don't believe in Robot Jesus?"
"We believe that he was built, and that he was a very well-programmed robot, but he's not our messiah."

Anyway, from that site...
"Cascioli says he didn't exist. And I said that he did," (Righi) said. "The judge will decide if Christ exists or not."
And next week, the judge will decide whether hotdogs are better than hamburgers. He's also expected to decide whether the universe began at some point, or whether it's always been around. Way to go, Italia! It's really uplifting to see that America isn't the only country making a fool of itself.
Trapster
Posts: 1315/3604
He wants to prove that a religion that has been around for over 2000 years to be wrong.

Or something like that.
Sin Dogan
Posts: 144/861
Originally posted by Wurl
His case isn't very strong, but I wouldn't call him a fucking moron.


It's not his case I'm talking about, it's his aims. What does he plan to accomplish?
Crashman
Posts: 38/80
I can understand intellectually what he is trying to acomplish, but emotionaly i just want to smack him. ANd i'm a bhuudist. who cant spell.
Ryoku
Posts: 79/123
I supose that "huge freaking moron" is a little overboard(I supose thats the religion part of me speeking). But his intentions seem so very unneccessary.
Alastor
Posts: 1853/8204
Oh honestly now. Yeah, I think he's an attention whore, but... Huge freaking moron seems very much overboard
Ryoku
Posts: 76/123
He is a freaking huge MORON!!!!!
Wurl
Posts: 175/842
His case isn't very strong, but I wouldn't call him a fucking moron.
Sin Dogan
Posts: 143/861
I respect this guy for being so indepen...

NO, HE'S A FNUCKING MORON!!
Ziff
Posts: 344/1800
Originally posted by Imajin
We have about as much evidence for Jesus as for Boudicca and many other Roman era figures, but no one questions their existance. But found a major religion...


Interestingly I found a journal in my university library on Celtic studies that questions the existence of MANY classical figures!

But be a part of history...
Sinfjotle
Posts: 247/1697
. . .

We know Jesus exists, its not about questioning it...

Originally posted by wikipedia
Many noted (and some controversial) critical historians, such as Shaye Cohen, John Dominic Crossan, Paula Fredriksen, John P. Meier, E.P. Sanders, and Geza Vermes agree that Jesus lived from about 8-4 BC/BCE to 29-36 AD/CE.


How do we know George Washington existed huh? I've never seen him, he must not have existed! Let's just forget about all the written records of his existance lolz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus
Imajin
Posts: 62/273
We have about as much evidence for Jesus as for Boudicca and many other Roman era figures, but no one questions their existance. But found a major religion...
Trapster
Posts: 1256/3604
Originally posted by Dracoon
Ha, there is lots of proof Christ existed. This dude is a moron.

Now, if he was asking if Jesus did all those miracles, he's not quite as much of a moron.


That was what I thought whenh I saw this thread.

"But I do respect him for sticking up for himself, I mean.. if he's forced to be a certain religion."

Uh, excuse me but who forced him to what? I don´t see anything about that in the text.

"Righi claims there is plenty of evidence to support the existence of Jesus, including historical texts."

That guy should read some. If he hasn´t, that is.
Metal Knuckles
Posts: 81/412
What, do they preform daily beatings for those not of the Christian faith in the Vatican city? As long as he's not forced to study the material, then it would be no different then the family down the street having Christmas lights on their house and Santas on their lawn when you are Jewish.
Snow Tomato
Posts: 44/798
... I respect this guy for standing up for what he believes in, but then again... beliefs and religion should be personal. Unless he has on his agenda to try and make the church's power limited to.. the church.. then I dunno, he seems kinda shady to me.

Religion = personal.
If you're against religion.. well that's a belief and it = personal.

But I do respect him for sticking up for himself, I mean.. if he's forced to be a certain religion.
Apophis
Posts: 171/734
Originally posted by Zamboni Flying Machine?
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
Why hasn't this guy been iced by the Pope's super-elite shock troops yet?


The Cardinal Commandos?!


Nope. The Brides of Christ.

"Lock and load, Brides of Christ!"
drjayphd
Posts: 131/1170
Originally posted by Zamboni Flying Machine?
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
Why hasn't this guy been iced by the Pope's super-elite shock troops yet?


The Cardinal Commandos?!


How about the fabulously-attired Swiss Guard? I hear they too can kill you with their brains.
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