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| netscape Posts: 25/90 |
Originally posted by Koneko I understand your intent, but poll tests, were used as a tool by racists in the south to discourage blacks from voting (whom to do to segregated schools were given inferior education), and they could be again. Don't want first generation immagrants voting? discourage it with a section focuing on American english. Don't want the poor voting? How about a section on the stock market to discourage it?
It was my pleasure  |
| Koneko Posts: 161/656 |
Originally posted by Metal Knuckles Although, that IS how the country's school system works now. "No Child Left Behind" and all that bullshit. Originally posted by netscape I agree fully. I've been thinking for a while that we need to pass a law. A law that will require voters to take a test on the stances and histories of the candidates before voting, at least for a position like President or Governor. The idea being that if you don't know anything about either one, you shouldn't have a say in the process. Though, I suppose that would unfairly favor the democrat position... Oh well, those bastards will just have to live with it. Originally posted by netscape Thank you. |
| netscape Posts: 20/90 |
I understand what you're saying, and can see the tunctional logic in holding Bush alone responable for his actions. However I do believe the voters have a responsabilty to do thier homework.
At anyrate reguardless the people of Texas either need to patch up thier government or the federal government needs to it for them. oh and don't blame me I voted for the other guy :p |
| Metal Knuckles Posts: 80/412 |
A bit, yeah. New Yorkers are aggresive drivers, Maine residents love lobsters, Canadians love pancakes and skiing, the Irish like to drink, and by all accounts I'm a Masshole. =P
But the idea of Texas justice isn't just a steryotype. Texans are well known for their sense of state pride and, umm... well, justice. They certainly enjoy giving bad guys the good 'ol rightous hanging, aka the death penalty. But that has nothing to do with this topic honestly. Saying a person who voted for said leader is at fault for this law would put, by all accounts, the majority of this country responsible for this law. Although they all didn't elect Bush for govenor, they supported his election for president even after passing this. I do guess that those who did their research on this and still voted for him should be held with a certain non-approval, but many looked at all his positive promises and thought he sounded like the right choice. Saying it's their fault that Bush's administration does what it does is like saying it's the teacher's fault that a kid has trouble learning. |
| netscape Posts: 18/90 |
Stereo type much? |
| Metal Knuckles Posts: 76/412 |
You could say the same about Massachussetts. Lsat time I was down there, all the houses were on fire and sadistic signs were imprinted on the doors. 
Nah, Gays are alright. I don't see why they shouldn't be married, it's an issue of religion, which brings up the problem of church and state. By all accounts, it should be allowed. But this is off topic. We really should discuss the non-vegetable killings some more. ... Well, I said all I can. Well, besides that Texans have a completely different way of thinking than the rest of the country, and what they view as justice, most others would be shocked by. If asked if they supported the desiscion to make Bush govenor, most would say something like "Yeehaw!", drink a bottle of beer, break it over your head, and ride off into the sunset while listening to Toby Keith on their customized cowboy-hat-iPods. Strange people, them "playboys of the southwestern world." |
| Ziff Posts: 333/1800 |
SOCIETY IN CANADA HAS FALLEN APART
EVERYONE HAS TURNED GAY. THERE ARE NO MORE HAPPY COUPLES. EVERY CHILD IS GETTING MERCILESSLY ABUSED. All because of them darned homersexuals and their marriage. |
| drjayphd Posts: 127/1170 |
Originally posted by Imajin Or just fear change, like them homersexuals gettin' married... (Notice how Bush hasn't brought the subject up since getting re-elected, even though it was a plank in his platform in 2004?) |
| Snow Tomato Posts: 30/798 |
Oh. My. God.
It is actually possible for someone to die in the united states if they can't pay for something. Why are people against socialism if it's with their best interests? Why do people support a party that benefits 5% of the population... that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer? People aren't generally stupid... why is this happening? This shouldn't be allowed to happen. I'm writing congressmen, senators, god... It's the very least I can do as a 16 year old non-voter. This is outrageous. |
| Wurl Posts: 166/842 |
Originally posted by Ailura Long live the socialist revolution! |
| netscape Posts: 10/90 |
Nah since the Iraqi war wasn't predictable in 2000. Look if that responsablity comment distracts from the issue I withdraw it.
The issue is a concious woman was killed/murdered for lack of insurance, and got zero protection from the state\society and virtually zero coverage from the media. Screw who's responsable, we as country need to worry about fixing it so it don't happen again. |
| jeff Posts: 20/213 |
Originally posted by Tamarin Calanis uhm.. duh? he wouldn't be in office if they didn't vote for him... this is basic shit. |
| Ziff Posts: 330/1800 |
So, what about that other half of the American population? |
| Imajin Posts: 54/273 |
Well, electing someone generally means you support that person. |
| Thexare Posts: 187/1104 |
So everyone who voted for Bush back in 2000 is responsible for the war in Iraq?
By that logic... |
| jeff Posts: 19/213 |
"So everyone that votes in an election is responsible for the actions of the leader they vote for? that makes no sense."
um... that is kind of the point, assuming they get in office. |
| Sinfjotle Posts: 243/1697 |
Geeogree: We, the American Citizens, pay so much to the government, to health care, to everything, that it wouldn't have seemed like a single molecule of water into the bucket to keep her alive till her mother got there.
Her last wish was to die with her mother there, not to live forever. They could have kept her alive for that much longer, they could've done it and probably wrote it down when taxes come around. Who's going to pay for it? The State of Texas or the USA, or more specifically, the citizens of these places. She might not have had insurance, but what about well-fare? What about all the extra things? Did they give time for a charity to raise money? No, ten days isn't enough time.  Yeah, someone did have to ask though, you're right, if we all agreed, it would be a pointless thread. |
| firemaker Posts: 50/194 |
That is sick and demented. The doctors basically commited murder. If she was brain dead I could sympaphise just a tiny bit but she was concious. They should not only be sued but sued well. 2 mil at least. |
| Trapster Posts: 1233/3604 |
"In the latest case to escape the Culture of Life warriors, Tirhas Habtegiris, a young woman and legal immigrant from Africa, was CONSCIOUS and responsive when removed from a respirator and allowed to die.
* YucatanMan's diary :: :: * Let me rephrase that: She was killed by doctors who removed the ventilator keeping her alive. And this action was fully legal under Bush's "economic considerations" law. Her body was ravaged by cancer, but she was alert. She was responsive." Err, wtf? I guess they´re not familiar with what you call murder and what you don´t.
"That family needs to get a good lawyer, then sue the crap of that hospital. US style." They better win too. |
| netscape Posts: 6/90 |
They killed someone who wanted to live. Murder.
Put yourself in her place. You're telling me you'd find it mercey when some cold blooded accountant told you he was gonna have the plug pulled before you could see your mother one last time? This was faluire of society to have the proper saftey nets. Where they come from is another issue. g'day troll |
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