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Kutske
Posts: 83/171

Grey cat: Me? I like New Link and OOT Link. In case you haven't noticed, Link's NEVER had a defined personality, ever. He's a shell of the user's perceptions of the world, much like Chrono or Ness. Silent hero, you see? In OOT and Windwaker they tried to give him a personality, but a lot of his reactions were really just surprise or confidence. Does Mario have a personality? Not really; he likes ravioli. And Peach. But he's changed throughout the years, too.

I'd welcome this New Link if they actually give him a personality and a reason to exist other than "save princess, hero of hyrule, yadda", but other than that, I'm all OoT Link for the win. Adult. Real men wear tights.

Videogames are becoming too pretentious and complicated, I'm glad Nintendo's mascots don't have overt personalities or storylines. Although, Mario and Link both - to me - have personalities in their motivations, their in-game vocalizations (Hut! Tut! Hyeah!) and their appearance. Mario seems to save the day because it thrills him, he enjoys a challange and probably takes child-like glee in jumping around like a simian. Compare him to Goku of Dragonball fame. Link, on the other hand, seems unsure of himself and troubled at the epic size of his undertakings, a darker and deeper character, especially recently. While Mario seems gung-ho and, "That's seven challanges down. Next!" Link seems more, "I've finally cleared that dungeon and beaten the boss. *exhausted sigh* Now what am I going to do? Where am I going to go? God, how in the hell am I going to rescue Zelda? What if Ganon hurts her before I make it there?" Compare Link to Shinji of Evangelion.

But maybe that's just my overactive imagination spilling out into templates that beg to be filled.


SantaDavis: I underlined the inaccuracies here for emphasis. Link's Awakening, being the fourth game in the Zelda series, did not use the same Link style as the first two games; it used the same style as the third game, A Link to the Past. In fact, much of the art in the Link's Awakening Manual is the EXACT SAME art as in the LttP manual.

They seem different to me, as I'm looking at them here.


SantaDavis: Secondly, the original Link's shield did NOT have the Triforce on it. It had a big freaking cross. At the time of the first Zelda game the Triforce didn't even HAVE three pieces yet, just wisdom and power. Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link did see the first appearance of the Triforce in its now familiar "three triangles making up a triangle" shape, but not on Link's shield. In fact, the only time it's seen in the manual in that form is on the back of Link's hand.

The cross is only seen in-game. It's the Triforce on the packaging.


SantaDavis: Compare for yourself...

The first one seems more realistic and the art style is decidedly Western. The second one is clearly anime-inspired. These two pictures look very different to me -- remembering that we're talking about artistic styles just as much as what he's wearing.


SantaDavis: Nothing to add except that the art of this version always seemed more anime-influenced to me than the others were.

Given this comment and the previous one about the two pics, you and I obviously have a very different idea of what constitutes "anime style."


SantaDavis: Oh, and that, as you failed to mention, the style was also used for Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures, and The Minish Cap.

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/c/1c8159dfba503b2db576bf48b5b6ef57.wav


SantaDavis: My only other gripe here is your last sentence, as we HAVE seen PLENTY of gameplay footage and screenshots.

To me, watching gameplay footage and actually playing the game is not equal. You can't get a feel for a character by watching someone else play.
Metal Knuckles
Posts: 48/412
Originally posted by Koitenshin
Seriously if you think Kid Link can kick Adult Link's ass I would love to play Super Smash Brothers Melee with you.

Ditto. =P

(Although I'm more of a Dr. Mario type player)
Deleted User
Posts: 204/-7750
Adult Link definetely. I like his Megaton Hammer! Plus he gets the Biggoron Sword and that thing is awesome!
Koitenshin +∞
Posts: 170/873
Seriously if you think Kid Link can kick Adult Link's ass I would love to play Super Smash Brothers Melee with you.
Metal Knuckles
Posts: 44/412
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."

And with that, I openly admit that I selected the Link from Windwaker.

The main complaint I heard for that game after it came out was that the graphics, for all they are worth, ruin the game. "Oh nos, thas nott teh Link from from OoT!1! I hatz tthis1 lolz" Well, as those from about ten years ago will remember, graphics sucked. Not for the time, by all means. But they were bad enough that in no way did people base their gameplay experience off them.

Goldeneye, anyone?

Windwaker, for all it's kidish glamour, is just as much fun as any other Zelda title... well, with the exception of the Phillips-CDi games. Man, those were the bomb! Back on topic, as soon as you started playing, it felt like a Zelda game. You know, the painfully long and complicated stretch before getting your first weapon, back-tracking to areas for new items, puzzles liable to cause brain damage after thinking on them to long... yes, for all intents and purposes, Windwaker was another Zelda game with different graphics.

But that was just a defense. Now here comes my support for... what'd you call him? Tan-Link? Right, Tanny boy.

The Four Swords games.

If one thing was surprising, it was how well the graphics from Windwaker transfered onto the GBA. You could look at it after playing WW, and you'd instantly recognize the character as Link. And for all intents and purposes, it looked like he was made for GBA.

The series story itself is great. Fight someone besides Ganon (look at avatar) and save Hyrule. Actually, I think that's why I enjoyed Majora's Mask so much, because the breakaway from the usual Boss. But Tan-Link really does shine on the GBA.

Which brings in the close second, young Link from Majora's Mask. Not the one in OoT, 'cuz all he had was a boomerang and slingshot. No, this kid could kick adult Link's ass with his arsenal.

But yeah. Tan-Link for the win, !
Zem
Posts: 264/1097
Originally posted by Spinal
I voted for Teen Link, i really didn't like zelda when it came to n64.

Rock on, brother
Spinal
Posts: 43/60
I voted for Teen Link, i really didn't like zelda when it came to n64.
JDavis
Posts: 116/648
Firstly, I'm not voting in this poll because I don't have a "favorite Link." Now, to my commentary...

Originally posted by Kutske
Link the Boy-Hero
This is the Rinku of the NES and original GB game, and of the shortly-lived American cartoon. As a character, Link wasn't yet strongly defined, and was thus portrayed as a typical "boy-hero" in the style of Astroboy; a young, presumably Japanese kid in a green tunic and tights, with dark brown hair and a cap. Visually, this was a simplistic Link who was most notable for his Hylian shield bearing the now-iconic triforce.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Link_LOZ_with_items.png)

I underlined the inaccuracies here for emphasis. Link's Awakening, being the fourth game in the Zelda series, did not use the same Link style as the first two games; it used the same style as the third game, A Link to the Past. In fact, much of the art in the Link's Awakening Manual is the EXACT SAME art as in the LttP manual.

Secondly, the original Link's shield did NOT have the Triforce on it. It had a big freaking cross. At the time of the first Zelda game the Triforce didn't even HAVE three pieces yet, just wisdom and power. Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link did see the first appearance of the Triforce in its now familiar "three triangles making up a triangle" shape, but not on Link's shield. In fact, the only time it's seen in the manual in that form is on the back of Link's hand.

Originally posted by Kutske
Teen Link
A more cleaned-up version of the previous, this incarnation was noticably older and more detailed, given longer arms and legs, lighter hair and more western facial features, such as blue eyes and a larger nose. His sword was also portrayed as being longer.
(http://www.gon.se/media/legend_of_zelda_link_to_the_past_gba/legend_of_zelda_link_to_the_past_gba_h_1.jpg)

My only problem here is calling this style "Teen Link" ... Why? Because it was also used for the Oracle games, with the minor changes of his apparent age and the addition of white tights and a collar. Otherwise, he's the exact same Link, including the shield, which is usually one of the most prominent things changed between styles. Compare for yourself: A Link to the Past/Link's Awakening VS Oracle of Ages/Seasons.

Originally posted by Kutske
Link 64
With all the buzz surrounding Ocarina of Time, the visual look of Link was given a makeover times two. Young Link looks very different than the previous two incarnations, he is very much more noticably elven and western, with "baby fat" adding to the youthful look. Adult Link is very medieval knight-esque and more modern at the same time; his hair is in a modern style and now completely blonde, his sword's sheath is strapped across his back instead of at his waist and he has very noticable muscles. This is also the Link featured in the two Super Smash Brothers games.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Ootjapanesebook.jpg)

Nothing to add except that the art of this version always seemed more anime-influenced to me than the others were.

Originally posted by Kutske
Link-tan
Proported to be Miyamoto's original envisionment of Link, this iteration differentiates the greatest from the others, forgoing realism and maturity in favor of a stylistic, perhaps anime-inspired look. Pastel colors and a chibi-style of large head with small body and near-nonexistant nose are used. Large eyes with a bold black-and-white colorscheme replace the ambiguous, "is he western or Japanese?" style of previous iterations.
(http://www.gamecritics.com/feature/artgallery/zeldagcnww/art03.jpg)

"The Link that matched the art." Let's face it, Ocarina was the first time the in-game Link more than just somewhat matched his artwork, but even then the N64 wasn't capable of perfectly producing a match, though the Gamecube did fine making the Hero of Time match his art in Smash Bros. Melee and later Soul Calibur 2. The Wind Waker was the first Zelda game whose Link looked exactly like he did in the manual. That's all I have to say about that. Oh, and that, as you failed to mention, the style was also used for Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures, and The Minish Cap.

Originally posted by Kutske
Bishonen Link
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. We have yet to see how this visual iteration of Link is represented in a game.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4a/Zelda2005-Link.jpg/352px-Zelda2005-Link.jpg)

While I don't necessarily agree with calling him "Bishonen Link"... My only other gripe here is your last sentence, as we HAVE seen PLENTY of gameplay footage and screenshots. His shield, interesting enough, appears to have a design identical to that of Ocarina of Time's Hylian shield... Though it is clearly not the same shield, as OoT's Hylian Shield had a mostly wooden backside, not a metal one.

Ranting/commentary over.
Zem
Posts: 246/1097
detectivegrey: I shit you not
detectivegrey: http://i15-8.facebook.com/pics/1/3/s423182_9520.jpg
bsznm: I don't doubt it
detectivegrey: I put my glasses on this guy
detectivegrey: he needs a HEV suit
bsznm: =o

Someone call Valve
Schweiz oder etwas
Posts: 320/2046
Originally posted by Zem
Originally posted by Grey cat
He's a shell of the user's perceptions of the world, much like Chrono or Ness

or Gordon Freeman.

whooooooooo

I know Gordon Freeman in real life, and Link is NOT Gordon Freeman.
Zem
Posts: 244/1097
Originally posted by Grey cat
He's a shell of the user's perceptions of the world, much like Chrono or Ness

or Gordon Freeman.

whooooooooo
Schweiz oder etwas
Posts: 317/2046
Eh, I kinda like New Link, but Teen Link and Boy Link are pretty much the same person, yeah... The most common representation of Link anywhere save for Nintendo Territory is Teen Link. Everyone sees the Hyrule shield, forgets about the pants, and likes the simple, sharp sword.

Me? I like New Link and OOT Link. In case you haven't noticed, Link's NEVER had a defined personality, ever. He's a shell of the user's perceptions of the world, much like Chrono or Ness. Silent hero, you see? In OOT and Windwaker they tried to give him a personality, but a lot of his reactions were really just surprise or confidence. Does Mario have a personality? Not really; he likes ravioli. And Peach. But he's changed throughout the years, too.

I'd welcome this New Link if they actually give him a personality and a reason to exist other than "save princess, hero of hyrule, yadda", but other than that, I'm all OoT Link for the win. Adult. Real men wear tights.
Tatrion
Posts: 231/2467
Both of the OoT Links. I couldn't decide between child or adult to vote on, so I voted child since he was down.
asdf
Posts: 138/4077
Link 64 (adult), hands down. Link-tan doesn't appeal to me, Boy Hero and Teen Link are the same. And Bishy? No. Just. No. Link 64 (child) comes close, but just doesn't act as cool as his adult form. I mean, Adult Link's reaction to Twinrova is just too damn priceless.
HyperHacker
Posts: 484/5072
OoT link kicks ass. Adult slightly more than Child.
Zubatron
Posts: 103/136
I voted for Adult Link from OoT simply because Link looks sexy DUH!
Kutske
Posts: 79/171
I haven't been on the boards in awhile; last I was here, linking was broken which is why I didn't.
Zem
Posts: 236/1097
I made links out of your titles/urls because it desperately needed to happen. I will observe and vote after I consult my own extremely useful post.

Link the Boy-Hero
Teen Link
Link 64
Link-tan
Bishonen Link

edit teen link it is
Ten
Posts: 21/261
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...

A boy hero with no pants and armed with explosives, how did this escape the parent groups?
Kutske
Posts: 78/171
http://excuuuusemeprincess.ytmnd.com/
YTMND, FTW.

How bad is our culture becoming that we can totally omit grammar in favor of abbreviations in order to express more complex thoughts? Or is that...advancement? Anyway, I must reluctantly say that my favorite is Bishy Link, but I don't vote in my own polls, hence zero votes. I'm normally against the whole ultrarealism thing in gaming, especially gaming produced by the Big N, but there's something about that character model that I really like. I think it's the maile. I'm gonna say it's the maile.
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