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| emcee Posts: 828/867 |
Originally posted by Alkis The UK doesn't consider it another country. |
| Skreename Posts: 1412/1427 |
Or what? Sealand will declare war on them? |
| Alkis Posts: 53/54 |
UK police can't go busting in into another country just like that... |
| emcee Posts: 817/867 |
Originally posted by Rom Manic Its not the Sealand police they would have to worry about. There are no Sealand police, its just a man made structure the structure the size of an oil rig with less than ten permanent residents. It's the UK police they would have to worry about. |
| Rom Manic Posts: 492/557 |
The only reason Pirate Bay got shut down was because of pressure from the United States MPAA and RIAA and associated lawyers. Unless new law has passed, Sweden is very much still a Pirate State, in terms of having nothing to do with international copyright.
Sealand may very well be the same, but unlike Sweden, the police (If any exist at all) will have no reason to bust down the door and shut them down, and anyone trying to convince them to do otherwise may as well be talking to a brick wall. |
| emcee Posts: 814/867 |
Originally posted by FreeDOS + Well, the idea is they couldn't be shut down. The law can still go after individual downloaders, but this way there wouldn't be one big target That's the idea anyway. But as long as UK considers Sealand part of the UK, they wouldn't have to "go to war" with Sealand, they would just send the cops our there and raid the place, just like what happened in Sweden. |
| beneficii Posts: 306/310 |
Originally posted by FreeDOS + Just e-mail it to yourself.  |
| FreeDOS + Posts: 1172/1312 |
Realistically, they very well could have no copyright laws in their own country, but what about other countries? It solves nothing when it'd still be illegal to import the data into your own native land. |
| Ailure Posts: 2466/2602 |
Well, the problem is that with Sealand a huge community would make a uproar as well.
While that case in Italy probably didn't have as large backing. Intresting that they mention Ladonia on piratebay as Ladonia is located 10-15 KM away from I live! It's inside the municipality of ours, and despite not being accepted as a official state the government doesn't want to involve too much as it draws tourists.  |
| Arwon Posts: 581/631 |
Originally posted by Ailure Not necessarily. Established states don't tend to consider these things actual countries, so different norms apply, even though I personally believe that Sealand and Hutt River, for example, probably deserve to be actual countries. Italy once stormed an articifical structure built by an engineer and declared an independent country, and attempts by businessmen to construct an artificial island near Tonga were met by annexation. I'm not sure too many people would raise an eyebrow if England or Germany sent the Navy to Sealand and tore it down. |
| Jomb Posts: 435/448 |
Apparently oil is worth blood, but is copyright? How many people would be willing to fight and die over Star Wars, Pokemon, and Backstreet Boys? |
| Ailure Posts: 2439/2602 |
They already have gone up to $15 327.
It would be interesting where this would lead too. Of course an country could attack them, but imagine the bad press they would get. xD  |
| Jomb Posts: 434/448 |
I hope it works out for Sealand. In my opinion copyright laws have been made overly restrictive and go way beyond their origional intent due to big business and lobbying. Mickey Mouse should have entered the public domain decades ago. |
| Arwon Posts: 579/631 |
Sealand and Hutt River both do have governments. |
| SamuraiX Posts: 88/302 |
Originally posted by Arwon Because it must have a government, and a government must exert influence, else cease to exist. |
| Arwon Posts: 577/631 |
See I think the debate about micronations is far more interesting than the copyright issues.
Why isn't Sealand or the Hutt River Province a country? |
| Young Guru Posts: 257/279 |
Well, they can remain independant as long as they don't want any trade with other nations and as long as no other nation does a strong armed take over of it. The thing is, if Sealand pisses people off then most countries wouldn't object to someone just going in and telling them to knock it off whereas if it was a well established nation there would be some uproar to it. |
| SamuraiX Posts: 79/302 |
Originally posted by emcee Exactly, it's only a titular country, if no one recognizes it as a country. |
| emcee Posts: 802/867 |
The only problem is that no country in the world recognizes Sealand as anything but part of the UK. |
| Young Guru Posts: 256/279 |
considering that allofmp3 is back up in russia I'll say yes. The reason that it wasn't able to be shut down was because they were working within Russian laws. Now, they might not last long because the US is trying to coerce Russia into changing their copyright laws which would therefore make allofmp3 illegal in Russia. But as long as the websites find places that don't have copyright laws then they will be able to work there, they just won't be able to ever enter the US without a horde of lawyers trying to prosecute them. But hey, if you're making millions do you really need to go to the US. |
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