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Ailure
Posts: 2427/2602
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Get ready to fork out a nice $1,936, for just one year of your two year contract

Doesn't sound so great now, does it?
Sounds like they're repeating Sony's mistake.

Aka "MAKE IT POWERFUL AS POSSIBLE, WITHOUT THINKING ON THE PRICE". I guess the price would eventually go down if it sells badly, and as the technology get's cheaper but still.

I'm keeping my old mobile for now. I can make phone calls and send SMS messages, and that's good enough for me. (it have WAP as well, but who seriously uses WAP?).
Tarale
Posts: 2577/2713
I hate Telstra. I hope that they don't wind up being the only telco to take on the iPhone.

Telstra make me very sad.
Ziff
Posts: 1622/1800
Originally posted by Colin
It might have been cheaper with Bell here but Bell doesn't have the network/technology that the iPhone uses, so... SOL.



BELL IS THE DEVIL I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THEM
Cynthia
Posts: 5615/5814
It might have been cheaper with Bell here but Bell doesn't have the network/technology that the iPhone uses, so... SOL.
Tarale
Posts: 2576/2713
This is one of the nice things about having to wait so long. I will have to wait at least a year for the iPhone to be available in Australia. That sounds pretty bad, but I don't think it is.

At the moment there isn't a whole lot of Wireless (Wi-Fi) coverage across Australia, particularly in cities like Adelaide. This has been improving, so in a year's time should be better than currently.

There's the possibility that the price may come down in that time too. And that if there are any bugs and glitches that Apple will work them out as well.

Besides, I'm not expecting the handset market in Australia to change that much in a year. We still need our telco's to catch up with this kind of thing.

I'm more than happy to wait. There's no point wanting a very shiny, but ultimately useless, device.
Cynthia
Posts: 5608/5814
Well, I'm not even going to consider getting one now.

Rogers is going to be offering the iPhone here in Q4 2007; 2 or 3 year plan and you MUST purchase a data rate with it as well - their cheapest data rate is $100/month for 200MB. So it's a no-go.
Tarale
Posts: 2575/2713
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Originally posted by Tarale
I worry that a lot of networks won't like it though because they won't be able to use the iPhone to push out their "exclusive" and "cool" content. However, this disappoints me, as I have no interest in any of that crap. I want a reliable, functional, easy to use telephone that puts ME in control of what I do with it -- I don't want to be forced to interact with things through the marketing filter put in place by a telco.

All in all, it's quite an interesting device. I hope that it does well, so that I get the opportunity to have one in Australia.

This isn't your phone, then. It's pretty much being locked down to just one carrier, so even if you decide to switch, you're still stuck with it. THey probably disallow third party software to stop you from, say, using Skype on itand bypassing their network entirely.

Oh, by the way, for everyone here, the final price of an iPhone after only one year:

Get ready to fork out a nice $1,936, for just one year of your two year contract

Doesn't sound so great now, does it?


As far as I know, there isn't any "Cingular Only" content on the phone itself, or a "Cingular Only" mini internet it connects to instead of the real internet, and such. This is more what I am referring to. The iPhone does not appear to cater to such marketing bullshit.

As for carriers in Australia, no idea what is happening with that. Cingular are not a carrier in Australia, as far as I know the company has no Australian branch. So I have no idea if Telstra, Optus, Virgin, 3 or Vodafone might pick it up. Because all of these are quite accustomed to bogging down handsets with stupid "extras" they might not want to pick up the iPhone...
Xkeeper
Posts: 5247/5653
Originally posted by Tarale
I worry that a lot of networks won't like it though because they won't be able to use the iPhone to push out their "exclusive" and "cool" content. However, this disappoints me, as I have no interest in any of that crap. I want a reliable, functional, easy to use telephone that puts ME in control of what I do with it -- I don't want to be forced to interact with things through the marketing filter put in place by a telco.

All in all, it's quite an interesting device. I hope that it does well, so that I get the opportunity to have one in Australia.

This isn't your phone, then. It's pretty much being locked down to just one carrier, so even if you decide to switch, you're still stuck with it. THey probably disallow third party software to stop you from, say, using Skype on itand bypassing their network entirely.

Oh, by the way, for everyone here, the final price of an iPhone after only one year:

Get ready to fork out a nice $1,936, for just one year of your two year contract

Doesn't sound so great now, does it?
Tarale
Posts: 2573/2713
Well, having now watched the "Stevenote" with this, I am more impressed with it than before.

The interface looks gorgeous. Really, gorgeous, and I'm not talking physical appearance alone. Steve is clearly enjoying himself as he shows the audience how beautifully simple the device is to operate. Even though the device is capable of many things, it appears to be very, very easy to use -- this in and of itself is a "Killer App" for me when it comes to mobile phones.

I find it an interesting move to see that it's locked down for 3rd party developers and such, but then I can see why Apple have done this too, so far. They want the device to work, first and foremost. This is a way that they can ensure the reliability of the device.

I worry that a lot of networks won't like it though because they won't be able to use the iPhone to push out their "exclusive" and "cool" content. However, this disappoints me, as I have no interest in any of that crap. I want a reliable, functional, easy to use telephone that puts ME in control of what I do with it -- I don't want to be forced to interact with things through the marketing filter put in place by a telco.

All in all, it's quite an interesting device. I hope that it does well, so that I get the opportunity to have one in Australia.
Young Guru
Posts: 255/279
Maybe Cisco didn't have the trademark.
Emptyeye
Posts: 846/869
I'm going to be even more pessimistic than the "It's not for me" crowd and ask, "Did anyone else think 'iNGage' upon hearing about this for the first time?"
Hiryuu
Posts: 2220/2480
I'd probably be without until upgrade a year from launch.

As it stands, I'm with a D807 as it is. Additionally, by the time...we won't even HAVE a 'Cingular' anymore.
Kasumi-Astra
Posts: 217/258
The device itself is one of the most beautiful pieces of technology I've ever seen, and they've really gone to town on features. I particularly loved Steve's demonstration where he used Google maps to search for a nearby Starbucks for a coffee, then using the Safari browser to make a call to a branch opposite the conference centre to order 5000 lattes! XD

I'm disappointed that it's only available with a two year contract though. I'm really fed up with progressive pieces of mobile technology being tied into their contracts and phone networks, I don't believe I should have to bleed to death for the more advanced technology when I have no interest in making video calls.

I'm also very disappointed that Apple haven't married the Apple TV with an announcement of iTunes TV programs and movies in the UK. Currently Apple are marketing the AppleTV purely on music videos and video podcasts- who's going to buy that? Personally, I encode all my DVDs to H264 anyway, so AppleTV should have no trouble getting through my video collection, but still I want to have easy access to TV and movie content. It's been long enough Apple, do something about it!


The biggest disappointment of the week: no Leopard. Nothing at all. We didn't expect the all-in-one nature of the iPhone, combining many rumours of products we expected, but we did expect something on Leopard. I really hope it's something special, given the fact that it's the only Apple product I can afford in the first half of this year.
Valcion
Posts: 575/585
damn i wish cingular didn't suck ass so i could get one of these things and use it.

that is the most technologically badass thing i've seen in ever.
Sweet Kassy Molassy
Posts: 673/886
I don't understand this kick for having all of your personal devices integrated.

Having anything else coupled with your phone just means less battery life used solely for the phone, which is bad.

and specialized devices can do thier jobs better than jacks of all trades. Plus, if you wanna let your little bro borrow your mp3 (or minidisc, I'll always love them) player when he borrows your lawn mower, you can do so because it's not also your phone.

And I damn sure wouldn't wanna play video games on my phone... or have my phone in my video game system like some people have suggested. Consider the potential downsides...
emcee
Posts: 794/867
Serves them right for not coming up with a more creative name.
Metal Man88
Posts: 622/701
I want Cisco to win. The people at Apple seem full of themselves. Doubly so with their horrible relationship with Apple Corps, which technically owns their name to boot. Of course, I hate microsoft too, so I'm sorta without any heroes in the software/hardware/monkey world.
Young Guru
Posts: 252/279
And here comes the obligatory lawsuit over the name. I was pretty surprised at the naming of the phone because I had heard that iPhone had already be trademarked and there's pretty much no way that Apple Inc. (a new tv setbox, a new phone, and a new name) didn't know about the previous copyright so there's probably some loophole that they've already prepared for this court case.
HyperHacker
Posts: 4719/5072
Until I bought more music and found that 1GB was no longer enough for my collection, I was quite happy with the Creative MuVo N200.


Mine was black but eh. It's roughly the size of a cigarette lighter including the AAA battery. Has an AM/FM radio, and can record from radio, built-in microphone, or line-in jack to MP3. Got a nice backlight too. Only real issue is lack of OGG support. Simple as hell to use; plug the USB cable in and drag MP3s into it.

So yeah, there are better players than iPod.
Xkeeper
Posts: 5191/5653
Cingular won't let them go without a 2-year contract here, so blah.

It's like they don't want to sell these.
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