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Krel

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Posted on 01-17-05 11:39 AM, in a myriad of stabbing problems Link
Yes, you won't be able to use it in court though, and again, considering everyone here either thinks you're making it up or doesn't care, the reaction you get from any administrators you seek will probably be the same. Best of luck, though.
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Posted on 01-17-05 12:26 PM, in a myriad of stabbing problems Link
If I was in your shoes, that's what I'd do. Messing with admins gets tricky when you want them to turn against their own, unless there's already *heavy* resentment towards that person.
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Posted on 01-27-05 11:54 AM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
I'm getting a little tired of these 5 people at the meeting trying to pretend that demoting someone without notifying them first isn't incredibly disrespectful, offensive, and rude. It's been said before, but it hasn't apparently been listened to, so I'll say it again. How would you like it if you signed on one day to do your job (which you pay to do, not get paid to do, though that's beside the point) and found out that you were fired?

And I find it interesting that you say that you didn't go into this thing with a list of people to slap in the face (aka demote without notification), yet every single person on this "list which doesn't exist" were conveniently not invited to this little quintet.
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Posted on 01-27-05 12:28 PM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Yeah, all staff except the select few invited. And what do you mean, it wasn't just those three making the decisions, they were 60% of the decision making force there.
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Posted on 01-27-05 12:59 PM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Hey rain, jizuko, care to respond to my two posts in this thread? I believe I made valid points, but apparently they were ignored because I'm not a staff member or ex-staff member. Power doesn't matter!

In the meantime. Un-edited log for everyone~!

Session beginning 23-01-05 15:26:38
[01-23-05 15:26:38] Now talking in #sekretz
[01-23-05 15:26:38] Updated internal address list
[01-23-05 15:26:58] *** Jizuko sets mode +oooo Toxic Colleen Anya Acmlm
[01-23-05 15:27:07] (@Toxic)
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Posted on 01-27-05 02:53 PM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Ok, enough of that crap. Time to get back to what matters: how this was handled. Since apparently a lot of you ignored my log.

[01-23-05 16:09:42] (Colleen) OK then... Kirbynite. (We do need to speed this process up. Slow start but we're rolling and we'll probably need to have another meeting to fix everything up with our lord and master Hiryuu.

[01-23-05 16:10:14] (Colleen) He organized everything, he gets a say. :p End of story.


Not only did Hiryuu (Rain) organize everything, he also was the one who chose everyone on this "unbiased" committee which, coincidentally, agreed on almost every single issue brought up. Selecting people he knew would say yes to avoid any possible dissent and demoting everyone would would have a problem with it? Nice.

[01-23-05 16:27:44] (@Kasumi) The problem with ||Bass is that he only comes into staff issues when it suits him or his friends...
[01-23-05 16:27:45] (@Toxic) Ip ban him


That and the rest of the Bass badmouthing. How dare you suggest that he would abuse/hack the board. How dare you, when he's put INFINITELY more resources into it than you ever would. You think he's going to pay for domain fees and hours and hours of time invested because he hates the board and wants to hack it? He's the most mature person in this whole ordeal, hell, look at how he's responded to this whole thing. With grace and honor, even though he's absolutely *seething* at how he's been treated.

[01-23-05 16:19:44] (Colleen) Hyper's another mod Hiryuu wasn't crazy about but I'll leave that to him.

I'll just let that stand on its own.
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Posted on 01-27-05 04:17 PM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
I can summarize the conversation between Jiz and me, we agreed that it's basically a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation in the end, so it really doesn't matter how it was handled. Sure, it wasn't handled ideally, but if we all worried about defending everything we do, we'd never get any sleep xD

Even though I'm in no position to do so, I at least apologize to Tom for how this all turned out. Tom, I know you think that you were treated unfairly, and we *all* agree with you, since true fairness is impossible. What went on through all this may seem like a big conspiracy to cull the staff, but you know what? There's a lot to be said towards the value of efficient decision-making, and this decision-making was definitely efficient.

Sure, in the process of culling, some people would be understandably hurt. And sure, proper precautions against this weren't taken, and that was most likely a mistake. But at the end of the day, all that's left are apologies, and those will have to suffice. Please don't have any more hard feelings about this, even though you're justified in having them. We're all still friends, and that's much better than how things could have ended up, we should just put this behind us and move on xD

(Note for those of you who don't know who the hell I am: I'm friends with, um, some people here. So there~)


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Posted on 01-27-05 05:56 PM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Oi, you guys are being melodramatic still xD

Originally posted by Jizuko
I apologize that Yiffy Kitten (or anyone else for that matter) was treated unfairly, but as Krel said, true fairness is impossible. And we all know this board, It's bound to get emotional when things like these happen. But they do. We just have to try and get on. And I hope we can do that. It's not a deathblow into the board, but rather, that things can happen. It's not always talk and talk in staff. For once, we had a proper discussion which we agreed in. I'm happy about that. I'm sorry however that people take this personally. It was never intended to be. We did not base any decisions on how much we hate someone, or how much they suck. I have nothing against Yarx, nor Yiffy Kitten, nor Phil, not anyone, and even if I would've, that wouldn't have influenced any desicions. If someone doesn't use their position, they don't really need it. Doesn't mean we respect them less. We might still even be friends with them, great friends even. Take for example Jesper, if he would've been on 100 posts or been missing for several months, I would still bring him up for discussion about possible demotion, but it does not in any way mean that I think less of him, he'd still be a friend of mine. I hope we all understand that. There's still love in the air~


Quoted for truth. And btw, tom isn't replying because he's sleeping, but I'm sure he'll be more reasonable when he returns.
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Posted on 01-27-05 06:23 PM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Hee, surely you can see that bass was joking in that quote, I mean come on

[&||bass] xkeeper, interestingly enough, i wouldnt ban
[&||bass] i'd just temp ban anyone who tried to have a conversation with him
[&||bass] and when he complained, id say he had no grounds to complain cause he was never banned

Funny as hell xD Need to maintain a sense of humor throughout these things, people, else there's nothing left.

In response to Colleen, if you say there was no reason for the log to be posted, then that along isn't a good enough reason for the log not to be posted, hell, you could just say "The public has a right to know" and be done with that one xD Unless you're ashamed of what went on there, nothing's wrong. Hell, I posted the log just because people were confused about what was going on, that's all xD

Let me reiterate, this issue is over and done with, Tom's offended but I know he's a good guy, he'll get over it, and he'll forgive people since he's been forgiven. I'm pleased with the maturity shown in this situation overall, with a few exceptions it's been quite surprisingly high. Relatively speaking, of course, none of us here is a saint xD
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Posted on 01-28-05 02:34 AM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Yes, it's clear that Acmlm and Emuz both taking charge and doing something strongly in response to all this is far overdue. With the exception of Rydain, they've just been "Sure, whatever" through the entire thing, and that's what's caused all this dissent, really. Whole thing lacks legitimacy =/
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Posted on 01-28-05 04:28 AM, in Stirring the pot? Maybe~ Link
Mature, straightforward, honest. That post was beautiful <3
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Posted on 02-28-05 05:51 AM, in No bullshit. Link
Wonder what would happen if everyone was banned for people not liking them. =o
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Posted on 02-28-05 06:13 AM, in No bullshit. Link
I'm a stupid idealist, I wish everyone could get along with each other, so forgive me for being a little sad whenever I'm reminded that life just doesn't work that way *nods*

This really hurt knuck, though, the boards and IRC meant a lot to him, even if it didn't seem like it. =/


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Posted on 05-08-05 07:07 PM, in Welcome Back Legion Link
Know what's silly?

I know more about what's going on here than most of the people on this forum.

And I almost never read posts here~

*shameless promotion of IRC*

Carry on~
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Posted on 06-03-05 10:34 AM, in Can someone give me a link to Mario music? Link
And, what do you know, looks like all writing is copyrighted as well.

You read that last sentence without paying me. I'm suing you, you unholy bastard.

Copyright law FOR THE WIN~!
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Posted on 07-03-05 04:09 PM, in Acmlm's Board Mosts Summer 2005 discussion thread. Link
Originally posted by Legion
Originally posted by Trapster

And wtf is Guro?


*deleted by Kitten Yiffer*




Yep.


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Posted on 08-14-05 06:34 AM, in WTF Link
DID YOU CHECK YO TCP/IP SETTINS?
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Posted on 11-02-05 07:55 AM, in In memory. Link
Ahaha, you guys are great.

So great you actually made me post.

I love how Xk's actually getting valuable work done, and all his opponents can say *nothing* in response to that.

I also love the drama. It's what keeps me coming back to acmlm.

Never change, staff drama is the best <3

Why doesn't HyperHacker keep posting though, his posts are the best ;__;~

You people rock.
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