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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 202/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I don't know, but having looked over the shoulder of people being arseholes in chat rooms, it has been just to get a reaction. Some adults (in their late teens; early to mid twenties) were going into chat rooms and being arseholes on purpose. They were doing this because the reactions to this behaviour was funny, at least to them. I'm guessing that "they" probably find our reactions funny too. So, we should probably just ignore them and not give them the reactions that they want. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 203/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Yeah, right click on the folder. You can click on Properties if you like, and then select the Sharing tab, or to go straight to the appropriate tab, right mouse click and select "Sharing and Security". And pick a decent password: otherwise you could well be wasting your time |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 204/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, there IS something to be said for burning bridges, y'know Weasel. o.o Eh, I think a lot of it's attention and getting reactions out of people though. Unless you've been around for a while, then it can quite frequently be "burning bridges". After all, it makes you think twice about returning to a place if, the last time you were there, you called everybody fuckwits, told them all to suck your dick, told them all EXACTLY what you thought of them, and were then subsequently booed off the forum.... |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 205/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Most of you know that I visit another forum from time to time (haven't been visiting again till recently) and again, I'm annoyed with it. Let's all bring up a completely hypothetical story based on something that really happened. Person A makes a snide and insulting comment about Person B's weight Person B gets very hurt and upset, and writes about it in their blog Admin A gives Person A a warning. Admin B and Staff A argue that the warning was unfair, because Person A has a right to free speech FormerStaff A and Staff B argue that Person A's comment was harassment, and shouldn't be tolerated. Then things went around and around in circles with nobody getting anywhere towards resolving the issue. Basically, it all turned into an argument of Free Speech, vs Harassment. The argument being that if you stop people from harassing others, you're stopping free speech. The counter argument is, of course, what about the rights of people to feel unharassed/unthreatened? But anyways, which do you feel is more important judging by how the argument seems to be going? Person A's right to free speech? or Person B's right to be unharassed on the forum? Or, are you like me, and believe that you can have free speech without hurting other people.... Bleh, the stupidity of stuff like this really does my head in. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 206/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Nah, my shrink says I'm immature. o.o He also says I should have children by now. o.o eeee, scary shrink. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 207/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Put your father on a leash already! Block out all the ad servers in your Windows host file, hopefully that will make it a crapload harder for him to do stuff like this; Ad server list is here Save everything from the ## marks down as 'hosts' (no extension, not .txt or anything!) in your C:/windows directory, or if you have WinNT/2k/XP, save it in c:/winnt/system32/drivers/etc Voila, no ads, and hopefully your father won't get any of the crapware on those adservers anymore. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 208/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Hey, I did cut off ties for... six months or so. Then they needed a webmaster, and plus, this comment was read in my friends blog about the harassment so I went to see it for myself, because I don't like my friends being bullied. But I wasn't asking about why the Citadel pissed me off, I wanted to know if you saw: Free Speech as important Freedom of harassment as important The ability to have free speech without harassing as important. o.o |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 209/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I'd vote for you anyways, Ambigore.  (I still like your other idea about mercy-killing the stupid.... like Cloud Strife, for example  )And yeah, I agree that freedom of speech and freedom from harassment are both pretty compatible things, it's not like it's some dichotomy or something... what got me is the way that so many people (not just the Citadel, it seems to be something about this intarweb thingie in general) can't see how the two can coexist.  |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 210/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| See, personally I'd find even "wow you're fat" to be insulting. Remember also that if you are overweight, or crazy (I'm crazy, btw) or have glasses or red hair or something else stupid that society tends to make a thing out of.... you've probably had it "pointed out to you" a million times before during your life, and you probably then have a bit of a complex/insecurity about it. And one more person going "wow you're fat" is not what you need. I generally tend to regard these things with a "would you say it to the person's face" thing when talking about the intarweb. If you think about actually being face to face with that person (or any person for that matter) would you REALLY say "wow, you're fat" to them? I've had lots of people call me crazy on the web and think that it's okay to do that, but I haven't had anybody call me that to my face. Why are our manners less online than they would be in real life? (edited by ChibiTaryn on 05-06-04 01:15 AM) |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 211/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Yeah, if he wants to protect his porn from his parents, he should still think up a decent password. I dunno about you, but I'm pretty sure my parents could've guessed some of the things I would've had as passwords back when I was a teen. Names of characters of TV shows. Song titles. All stuff that if you knew me well enough, you could've cracked yourself with a little time o.o Thank gawd I don't do that anymore... my computer is a veritable fortress (at least against my family) |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 212/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| For the record, the comment about weight in this respect was the culmination of several, escalating, non-personal related insulting remarks, and the weight one was the final, PERSONAL insulting one. I call it "harassment" though because this is NOT an isolated incident. Person A is frequently insulting to a selective group of people on the forum, and it impacts negatively on those people. This particular incident is just the one that got Person A a warning. As for sensitive people, why do you have to coddle them? Is it so hard to -- if you know somebody's buttons -- just not to push those buttons? Being coddled SUCKS. Kinda like having somebody brownnose you, it makes you feel icky and wrong. As a sensitive person, I'd just rather that people were a little more respectful towards my insecurities... like my mental illness. An "If you don't have something constructive to say about it, shut the fuck up" approach. The Online world is more candid, and in some ways that IS a good thing, but I don't think that things like personal insults are a good thing. I don't think telling somebody that they are fat just because you can -- because you're anonymous -- is a good thing. I just think the problem is that we've forgotten our Netiquette. Netiquette doesn't take away from free speech at all. But it does encourage you to remember that there is always a person on the other end of your computer screen, and act accordingly. The "Would You Say It To Their Face?" rule. (An important part of the first rule of Netiquette) (edited by ChibiTaryn on 05-06-04 01:59 AM) |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 213/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Eh, I'm not really a nutcase. I'm clinically depressed. But because that is technically a mental illness, people think that that means that I'm crazy. And a lot of people are quite mean about it, to tell the truth. Anyways, have a lookie at the Netiquette guide. It's pretty intarweb old-skool, but I think it's relevant. You CAN have candidity and free speech without making other people feel like shiat. I just want to know why it's so effing hard for people to actually think about others before they let their fingers do the talking.... |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 214/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by hhallahh Just so you know, there's an attitude (at least on the surface, but more about that in two paragraphs or so) that people SHOULD be able to take any and all abuse at this place too, that it's part of the social context. Suffice to say, they've chased a great deal of the females away from the board, and pretty much all the newbies too.... then they complain the the board is dying due to lack of new blood... o.o The social context argument doesn't hold much water with me, I'm afraid. Particularly as one person's view of the social context of a place is almost always different to another person's. In fact, there are quite obviously varying views on the social context of the place, depending on who you talk to, how long they've been at the forum (the site's founding members are more peaceful than some of the "middlebies"), etc, etc.... Course, it may APPEAR that there's a SINGLE social context to a place, but it's more a case of the loudest people having their voices heard. Like Person A, who is definitely one of the "loud" ones and believes the social context should be.. well, negative. While the founder of the site -- who clearly holds a different ideal of what the social context should be -- is one of the less vocal members. And Eclipse, what does it matter that it's on the internet? It still hurt Person B, didn't it? Then what does it matter whether Person A said it to his face or to him via a messageboard? As for the definition of harassment, I'll use a basic legal definition of that and define it as: harassment is words, conduct, or actions directed at a specific person that annoys, alarms, or causes a lot of emotional distress for no legitimate purpose. By that definition, Person A harassed Person B. By further definitions, Person A harasses Person B with moderate frequency. He harasses several other members of the board with moderate frequency also. His harassment is always negative. And furthermore, it continues with no legitimate reason even after he is asked to desist from the harassing behaviour. But you still have missed the point, hhallahh. The question was Which is more important? Freedom of speech? Freedom from harassment? The ability to have both freedom of speech AND freedom from harassment? I am not asking about the specifics of this case, I'm asking that, in general, which do you place higher? Your freedom to call people fat, or stupid, or ugly or a bitch? Or people's freedom not to be subjected to such insults? EDIT: And again, Eclipse... no offense, but your comments are very insensitive. Some people know other people on the internet for years at a time, so they DO take comments seriously. (edited by ChibiTaryn on 05-06-04 07:05 AM) (edited by ChibiTaryn on 05-06-04 07:09 AM) (edited by ChibiTaryn on 05-06-04 07:10 AM) |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 215/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Eh, teenaged angst is a part of life. Course, when you grow up a little, it looks stupid, and a lot of things that teenagers do is bloody cruel, but... thankfully they do grow out of it. Teenaged angst mostly comes from the fact that many teenagers feel that they are now old enough to look after themselves, but their parents do not feel that way yet. So, they feel like they're being treated like children, and they deal with it by listening to music their mother hates with lots of swearing in it (although a DAMNED lot of that music was good -- least in my day -- but I know I also got a kick out of how many times the word FUCK was used in a single song cause it'd drive Mum bonkers...), breaking all the rules, calling their parents abusive,.... blah blah blah. Basically being little hellraisers. Course, I am currently getting "adult angst" from my mother. I now know why I had such a complex about her in high school. She really IS irrational! It's not just my warped teenaged mind, she's irrational towards me when I'm an adult too. o.o Now, I have to go listen to Frenzal Rhomb on maximum volume. *sings* You're a fuck up, you're a joke, you're a clown take your pants down, get fucked you fucking fuckwit, you can't move into my house... |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 216/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Oh. My. God. Most of my spam is about viagra. Or home refinancing or pirate cable, online pharmacies, pirate software, lose weight now... increase the size of your love muscle, DEER ANTLER. This.... this I have NO words for, just a quiet anger. The world is outraged because some of our troops embarresed some Iraqi Ugh. Anybody else getting spam like this? |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 217/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Gandalf The Grey My point isn't that I got spammed -- I get spammed 50 times a day every day. But this spam didn't have a link. It wasn't selling anything but an idea -- the idea that Iraqui prisoners DESERVE to be beaten and tortured and humiliated, that it is the US Soldier's patriotic duty to do so. o.o And that's what made me feel sick. I don't care about teen girls and viagra and all of that, like I said, I get that 50 times a day, every day, it's old hat. But this -- this is new. This is the first time I've recieved (hate) propaganda, and frankly, it's DISGUSTING. Has anybody else recieved any politically charged stuff like this? Propaganda style things? Hate message stuff? This is the kind of thing I expect the KKK to start sending out. It's sickening. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 218/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Heh, the Iraqi prisoners don't deserve to be tortured, I don't care if it's because they're soldiers or what. And I don't like the insinuation in the email that they're terrorists... they're just soldiers defending their country. What the US and UK soldiers did to the Iraqi prisoners classifies as torture. And under the Geneva Convention, they can't do that, even to get information out of them (but it seems clear that they're not doing this to get information). The Soldiers' judgement may have been wrong, I don't deny that, but I don't think that people should just say 'but it's okay, because Iraqis are terrorists and they want us dead". I know people who have families in Iraq and they DON'T hate the US or it's people, they just want to govern their own country by themselves, and they are getting frustrated with the US occupation of their land. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 219/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| *applauds SomerZ* Heh, I agree. I also think that it's stupid of Americans to act this way considering that their government proclaimed so loudly that going to Iraq was a goodwill mission of sorts.... kinda drags that whole concept through the mud a bit, doesn't it? I'm sure a lot of the American soldiers were just following orders, which means that if they had objections to the treatment of Iraqi's, they may not have been able to voice them, but their superiors should've known full well that torture, be it physical or mental, was disallowed according to the Geneva Convention, and they should've found other ways to question things. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 220/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, I have a very very small computer desk, so I don't have much on it. The desk itself is a very small light wood thing with metal frame. It has a slide out tray for the keyboard and mouse. On the top of the desk is my 17" monitor, my graphics tablet and stylus, my GBA-SP case, a few CD's and a power adapter. On the pull out shelf, there is a Microsoft Natural Keyboard and an optical mouse. Underneath the desk is the PC tower, and an accordion file that stores all my non digital data (like forms and such). The speakers are on the floor too. My scanner sits unplugged, leaning against the tower case. My other "computer area" is my lap, and it has um... at the moment, corduroy pants on. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 221/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Eh, been a while since I have posted anything here, been pretty... busy/stressed/demotivated/etc. This still isn't much, but I thought I'd show you guys anyways. it's a cute little Totoro, (from Studio Ghibli's "My Neighbour Totoro" if you're not familiar with it), sitting on a branch or something. It's pretty much just a quick-and-dirty pixel piece, but I'm happy with how it turned out anyways.  |
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