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Posted on 10-28-05 06:19 AM, in Hello, newbie with a question.. Link
Hello everyone... I have just recently been wanting to learn hacking roms (as many rpg lovers out there).

Hopefully this board will help me a lot beggining in this.

Unfortunately i have already encountered my first problem, Im using Translhextion.

I open a rom file (.smc) and the program does open it ... but all i see beside the hex code is garbage ... no dialog at all.

I've tried all sorts of games, not only rpg, and all i get is garbage, pure symbolic nonesense. And some games display only empty spaces (00) or the max hex (FF).

Is there a setting I should change? or what am I doing wrong?

Thanks in Advance for any response.

bzeroneo


(edited by bzeroneo on 10-27-05 09:22 PM)
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Posted on 10-28-05 07:20 AM, in Hello, newbie with a question.. Link
Just adding something to my question post above.

I tried the Alien 3 rom. It is the only one that has given me text that makes sense, mission orders, menu strings and the credits showed properly, I was even able to do some editing.

Still all other roms give me nothing but, what at least to me seems garbage.

Hope you can help

bzeroneo

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Posted on 10-28-05 08:07 PM, in Hello, newbie with a question.. Link

Thanks both for the replies: I wanna try what schwa recommended, yet i dont seem to find this convert table command, is it in Translhextion or must I download Thingy?

And also one more thing. For example when I opened Alien 3, the text was readable right there after opening it... I needn't do anything else...

Yet in any RPG I try, even going line by line I fnd nothing. Does this mean text is encoded?

In Chrono Trigger for example, the only readable thing in the whole this is the game title itself like so:

43 48 52 4F 4E 4F 20 54 52 49 47 47 45 52 // more hex // CHRONO TRIGGER

I could easily figure out the whole alphabet (although not punctuation) just from this but the thing is that it is the only thing redable in the whole rom. So is the rest encoded or something?

I'm sorry if this are "too noob" questions. I just need some help.

Thank You in advance.

bzeroneo
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Posted on 10-29-05 03:26 AM, in Hello, newbie with a question.. Link

Thank you for the replies everyone.

Ok now I know that rpg's (or at least the long ones) are text-compressed.

Thanks blackhole89

Now FloBo thanks for the recommendation but what you tell me to do is exactly the problem i have ... I open Chrono Trigger.smc, i run the relative search but no word will give me results except for CHRNONO TRIGGER (which is in normal ASCII). Not even the characters' names, weapons or enemies will give a result in the search.

Its odd

Could something be wrong with the rom?

Thanks for replies.

bzeroneo
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Posted on 10-30-05 06:49 AM, in Hello, newbie with a question.. Link
Thank you JLukas, with your help I've made my table for the complete alphabet.

Now to check my work I downloaded the complete table fom Zophar. I was correct, but now another thing puzzles me.

Its curiousity mostly. I see in the table that some hex values stand for complete words or syllables. My question is how does one come up with those for the purpose of having the complete table?

A relative search won't give results for those hex values of course. And doing it by looking at the script with the partial table would take ages.

I could figure some on my own like the 'as' syllable because with my alphabet only table showed in parts of the script things like:

GuardiaC#tle and the value corresponding to the # was 61 so 61 in hex means 'as' but like I said, doing it this way to try and figure out all those kind of values would take a loooong time.

So how does one figure this out?

Also where do I toggle between hex editing and direct editing of script?

Thanks for replies

bzeroneo
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Posted on 10-30-05 08:44 AM, in Hello, newbie with a question.. Link
Thanks again for the reply JLukas, its really helpful.

Although I still have problems with script editing because when I try to do so, what I actually end up modifying the hex and of course only chars from A to F actually enter and the ten digits.

Thats why I ask about the toggle. I thought the TAB toggled (as it states in the menu) between hex editing and char editing, but when I toggle there is an od behavior because when I type anything, what is insterted are parts of the thingy table:

If I type 'w' for example what is inserted is 'our' (hex value 77). So this isn't the way to go.

Hope I explained myself ok.

Thanks for replies.

bzeroneo
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