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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 2849/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Edit:: I'm not going to say anything other than what you said has literally made me tear up. You have no idea how painful what you said was to me. You cannot comprehend how much I love the Church. You cannot comprehend how much pain I have to bear to remain a Catholic. Without a doubt. I'm not defending myself. That just was one of the most painful things I've ever had said to me on this board. (edited by Ziffski on 02-04-05 05:39 AM) |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 1057/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| If the local priest - God's representative on Earth, by Catholic doctrine - says you're wrong, you're wrong! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HEY GUYS LETS GO OVER AND LIKE GO TO AFRICA AND SAY BIRTH CONTROL IS BAD HAHAHAHAHA THEY BELIEVE ANYTHING I SAY TOO AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH ~~~ Dude, edit your post once your PMS ends, k. (edited by windwaker on 02-04-05 06:43 AM) |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 7160/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Say, can inhaling sulphuric acidgas cause schizophrenia? We had a discharge where I am right now and that (edited by Trapster on 02-04-05 09:02 AM) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2854/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 7168/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43  Posts: 454/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by Silvershield show me a "perfect" catholic and i'll show you one fucked up person. I certainly don't know a single perfect catholic, or a perfect christian for that matter. I myself have tried very hard, but just can't buy into religion. So i don't give a damn what some ailing man in a pointy hat says is good and says is bad. Not to mention the fact that the cannon itself has changed so much in the last few hundred years, you kinda start thinking... "eh, wtf." |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61 Posts: 1060/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| SS basically just said "PRIEST IS GOD LOL ROFL BRB BACK". He didn't even say -why- he disagrees with marijuana use. BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUCKING GOOD REASON NOT TO. (edited by windwaker on 02-04-05 05:59 PM) |
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Lilmario Hoarder crappy custom title! Level: 31  Posts: 148/367 EXP: 171741 For next: 13622 Since: 03-15-04 From: The land of Leprachauns <3 Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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Pot eh. I've tried it, just to experience it, and hey, it was pretty good! I won't do it again though, I'm scared for my health, but my sis smokes it a lot  I'm a catholic also, born in raised in a catholic society, and I tell you, There really is no perfect catholic. It's fucking crazy, catholics here, in belfast, fight protestants because of their belief, but they completely ignore it! |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 1559/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Silvershield I'm sorry, what? Did you say all priests are right? How about the ones that have molested little boys? I believe that in the old testament (and most likely, the new, I need to check), that kind of sodomy is against God's word. If a priest were to walk up to me, and said that if I didn't donate an extra 5% of whatever I donated to the church that I'd go to hell, then there's something severely wrong there. While there are true-to-heart good priests out there, they're not right all of the time. If they mention that cannabis is bad, it's not God's word - it's the priest's moral standpoint on the issue. Oh, and did I mention that D&D is also declared bad? (edited by Cymoro on 02-04-05 10:41 PM) (edited by Cymoro on 02-04-05 10:44 PM) |
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Ramadan Roy Like Like ...Or you'll be wearing your ass for a hat. Renowned Otaku Level: 44 Posts: 524/816 EXP: 569705 For next: 41580 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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I really don't see why you guys can't accept someone when they mention a religion in a sentence. Everytime that happens, you just bash their religion. And last I checked, such behavior isn't tolerated. I remember the days of yore when calling someone gay would result in a ban. (I learned that first hand,  ) |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43 Posts: 475/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by The Dogan i didn't see any religioius bashing at all. Cymoro said that there are "true-to-heart" pieists yes, but that some of them do horrible things. Which is absolutely proven fact, not only because it is consistant with human nature, but you might remember a few court cases or something in the last few years if you don't live under a rock  .I said that there is no "perfect catholic" much in the way that there is no "perfect person" anywhere. Part of blieving in religion is recognizing that humanity has it's flaws and that we need a higher being/entity/whateve to guide us to the right path. That we are unable to accomplish this on our own. If anything, what i said was by virtue in support of religion, even though i do not currently consider myself as subscribing to any organized religion. |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL Level: 67 Posts: 1560/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by The Dogan That rule still exists. However, we are not bashing their religion per se, but we are saying that hiding behind a religion just to back up a point is not good enough in a conversation like this. Just because your religion says you have to stone someone for thinking bad thoughts doesn't mean that the general consensus has to live with such a cruel act. |
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Ramadan Roy Like Like ...Or you'll be wearing your ass for a hat. Renowned Otaku Level: 44 Posts: 525/816 EXP: 569705 For next: 41580 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Cy: No it doesn't. I've seen it happen many a time, but nothing has happened. (I thought that someone would see it) Anyway, I haven't detected anything in Silvershield's reply that would lead you to believe that he is using the said rules of a religion as a false curtain. And that is a very insulting thing to say, mind you. And I find it absolutely HILARIOUS that someone must always bring up some scandal about priests when Catholicism is mentioned; it is largely irrelevant. It seems that you are just trying to point faults at the religion. (When in actuality, all you are doing is stating a point part of human behavior) (edited by The Dogan on 02-05-05 12:09 AM) |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43 Posts: 476/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by The Dogan you obviously aren't very good at reading. Sex-offender Priests were not mentioned as some knee-jerk reaction to discredit the catholic religion, it was merely addressing a very specific allegation that there is some sort of "perfect catholic", or for that matter "perfect person". Accepting the flaws in humanity, they were merely pointing out, would suggest that perhaps not every decree or word that comes out of a priests mouth is holy and a direct word of god. |
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Ramadan Roy Like Like ...Or you'll be wearing your ass for a hat. Renowned Otaku Level: 44 Posts: 527/816 EXP: 569705 For next: 41580 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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Originally posted by Silvershield Obviously, YOU are not a good reader, Gavin. Silvershield isn't talking about the presence of perfect Catholics. He is merely saying that one shouldn't consider themselves something if they aren't and can't back it up. It's as simple as that.  (edited by The Dogan on 02-05-05 02:19 AM) |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 934/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| One question about Catholicism: Where in the Bible does it say that we should have a pope, priests, etc. And where does it say in the Bible that they are divine? |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL Level: 67 Posts: 1561/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by The DoganOriginally posted by Silvershield Let me quote what I commented mainly on: Originally posted by Silvershield According to Silvershield, a priest's word is final, and is always right. That is what i was commenting on, the fact that he says that whatever one person says (I know there's more than one priest, you know what I mean) goes is a bit flawed there. Hey, you know what? I'll sell you a few indulgences - They'll get you out of purgatory reeeeeal quick. After all, the church said so, am I right? question authority! |
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Silvershield Slime Level: 30 Posts: 325/345 EXP: 153029 For next: 12840 Since: 04-11-04 From: New Jersey Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by ZiffskiI may have been harsh, sure, but I've just been annoyed watching you describe yourself as a strong Catholic, and then endorse some of society's more liberal and possibly...shadier causes. Originally posted by windwakerOk "dude," you need not take offense, as you are obviously not Catholic. My post was aimed at a fellow member of the faith, and I did naught but inform him of the values he should hold as such. I didn't say anything about the values anyone else should subscribe to. Originally posted by GavinHonestly, I think a perfect Catholic would be a far greater person than you think. Catholicism has a tight doctrine, yes, but it is truly based upon pursuit of correct moral activity in all situations. Originally posted by windwakerMy own reasons are unimportant. Part is religion, while the rest has no relevance, as I made no statement on the subject myself. My original post targetted at Ziff alone, and it commented on religion, not marijuana use. Originally posted by CymoroIn this case, I'd say it's more than reasonable to expect one to deduce that "the local priest" is the ideal minister, representative of Catholic canon. Certainly there are crooked priests out there, I'd be the first to admit it, but when I brought it up I intended my challenge to Ziff to point out that Church canon frowns upon drug use, and that should be good enough for any staunch Catholic. An individual clergyman's views might vary, but "the priest" (as I used it) would always come up with the proper answer. Originally posted by NebetsuMaybe you should ask a few more questions about Catholicism, since your knowledge is apparently lacking. You see, unlike Protestants - that is, just about any non-Catholic Christian - we do not rely on the Bible as a text to be taken entirely literally. The Pope draws from Matthew 16:18, where Jesus declares Peter base of his church, establishing the potential for successors to this original leader's position. Priests are no more than spiritual leaders of the people, better versed in Church doctrine and thus better able to lead the more poorly learned or less informed. Never are either priests or the Pope called divine. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2855/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, your value system is skewed. Unfortunately you got sucked into Karol's new conservative agenda. It is times like this I lament his rise to power in the Vatican. It wasn't so long ago I was speaking with a Polish priest who recollected and reminisced on how much of a partier John Paul used to be. In fact, I've seen pictures of him being quite fond of a vodka bottle. ONO! It can't be that the pontiff maximus is human! It can't be that a Catholic is human! It can't be that repetentance and various other points of the Church exist! Dear lord, what has happened now that the conservative forces in the Church have outlawed purgatory?! And there is one issue with my shady and liberal causes. I support humanity. My faith is seperate from my politics. Much like Treudeau, Montsegilur or Tommy C. Douglas. Men I hold as Canadian heros and icons. If it is wrong that I support my gay friends, many of whom suffer in the Church, then I guess I am a heretic and excommunication is the only way! Since I support Sikh allies, I suppose being burned at the stake is the only way! Maybe, just maybe, since I'm a socialist and a Catholic at the same time I have some serious collisions in my life. And tell me, what is the doctrine on zoloft and other harsh medication I would be on if I didn't self-medicate. What about the medication I'd need to be on to help control these painful cysts (something marijuana seems to help control). Hmmm. Is there Church doctrine on this? I'm annoyed with fuckwits like you taking hold of an organization built on the foundation of the power of love and twisting it back into a schism creating institution of hate. Fuck you |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6538/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| .......... Nothing good is going to come out of thost last posts, SS and Ziff. Congrats on killing the thread. (edited by Colleen on 02-05-05 04:57 AM) |
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