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Posted on 01-27-05 02:53 AM Link | Quote
Running Windows viruses in Wine!

Interesting read...
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Posted on 01-27-05 03:04 AM Link | Quote
You know, I've ran viruses in Wine before. I can't remember what I ran though, this was over a year ago now. I just wanted to see what would happen... (not much)
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Posted on 01-27-05 03:08 AM Link | Quote
This is an outrage! At this rate, WINE and even ReactOS will never be able to offer a truly Windows Windows experience, to which viruses and trojans are essential.

I swear I've read an article just like that one somewhere before.

I think most of the security problems with Windows could have been eliminated by taking out Outlook Express and Active X. Limiting some scripting and macro abilities in certain programs might help too. Basically, MS should've thought about security from the beginning, instead of looking at it as an afterthought.

So, do you have any relation to the FreeDOS project? I ask because I used to mess with FreeDOS a few years back on a $50 laptop I bought.
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Nah, I'm not related to any one in the FreeDOS project. I named myself this after an early name-change fad at this board.
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Posted on 01-27-05 03:48 AM Link | Quote
Heh, i'm not sure how Wine works. It tries to simulate Windows own filesystem for the Windows programs so I wouldn't be surprised if some virus could destroy data even on Linux. But only in certain folders. After all you have to be in root to mess with the most crucial files in Linux.
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Posted on 01-27-05 03:53 AM Link | Quote
It's not just MS that have neglected security, though. Some prominent Linux guy (Boy, that was descriptive. ) basically took the community to task for not focusing more on security. Of course, given the very pro-Linux attitude of /., you'll never see that on their front page (Despite the fact it was a slashdot link that made me find the article in the first place).
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Posted on 01-27-05 09:09 AM Link | Quote
I honestly don't know what to think about GNU/Linux security, since I never really analyzed the specifics of the situation by looking at specific projects. Most of the code contributed to Free Software projects is written with the focus of adding new functionality or fixing bugs in functionality, and there aren't regular security audits on most open source code with the exception of projects like OpenBSD. It's always made me wonder about just how secure Linux really is.

Like you hinted at with /., the general attitude in the community tends to work against implementing processes to improve security in Free and Open Source Software, since nobody is willing to confront the issue openly for fear of how it would look (they become just as bad as those they criticize) or because it runs against what people keep telling themselves (dogmatically believing that it can't be true).

The development model used tends to take up a more "trial and error" approach anyway, which is why so much code gets rewritten as people realize the original approach was flawed. I can't list how many times I've seen this happen.

Still, that mostly impacts low-cost servers and academia, since most regular computer users don't use Linux or BSD.

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Posted on 01-27-05 12:26 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, it was pretty interesting. The only virus that could do bad things to linux was SomeFool which I haven
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