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Posted on 01-25-05 04:40 AM Link | Quote
Well basically its a feature to see who is the most active in a certiain forum. Like listing the top user to post it what forum that you select. Instead of going to everyones profiles and clicking Posts by Forum it would be right there to check. This could be a branch off of activeusers.php. Just an idea...

Tell me what you think.
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Posted on 01-25-05 05:04 AM Link | Quote
Doesn't seem like that bad of an idea, through active users, a listing with all the forums could be listed as they are on the index, while the most active user of that forum is posted under the forum title and also showing with how many posts.

I wouldn't say this is completely needed, but can't say I've ever thought of it. ;D
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Posted on 01-25-05 06:42 AM Link | Quote
Oh yes. Let's give everyone one more reason to spam. Hmmm... No. Seriously, what would be the point? How does anyone gain from this? The only possible result I can see is newbies going "OMG THERES NO1 N DAT FRM! I CN BE TEH BEST EESY!" and then spamming up the inactive forums.


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Posted on 01-25-05 07:58 AM Link | Quote
Umm do you have any idea what I was saying. It would be cool to see who is the top poster in what forum. I never said you had to like/use it. Its just a feature selection...
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Posted on 01-25-05 08:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Randy53215
Umm do you have any idea what I was saying. It would be cool to see who is the top poster in what forum. I never said you had to like/use it. Its just a feature selection...

Let the dick measuring contest begin!

This is something the board can go without. I don't personally give a rat's ass who the most active member in any particular forum is. Pointless is all it is.

My two cents.
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Posted on 01-25-05 11:32 AM Link | Quote
Gee, I see some major dickheads on this forum; hypocrites. Rejecting features like this all the time, using "the board can go without this" as an excuse, but in the same time wanting/using nothing more than completely useless roleplay and RPG features.

Anyway, the more of these kind of things, the better; having more and better user/board status overviews is always good, especially when the data necesary to build something like this is already there so it's just the script that needs to be made.




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Posted on 01-25-05 11:48 PM Link | Quote
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Gee, I see some major dickheads on this forum; hypocrites. Rejecting features like this all the time, using "the board can go without this" as an excuse, but in the same time wanting/using nothing more than completely useless roleplay and RPG features.

Gee, I see some major dickheads on this forum; hypocrites.
How are they being hypocrites? Mabye you should wait around a while (and no, a month isn't long enough) and view more people before you start calling people hyporcites.

Rejecting features like this all the time, using "the board can go without this" as an excuse, but in the same time wanting/using nothing more than completely useless roleplay and RPG features.
All the time? Show me a few others (not just one, because 'all the time' implies quite often) where this is the case. Also, it can, suprise. Allow me to demonstrate:

This board : Suggested feature :: Hospital patient : flowers on desk
This board : Posting to threads :: Hospital patient : life support

It does not need this, therefore it can go without. Whoops. Continuing on my quest to blow your retort into thousands of pieces...

"but in the same time wanting/using nothing more than the completely useless roleplay and RPG features"

What roleplay and RPG features? Status.php? Shop.php? The forums? The RPG system (Level/EXP) were created before this board began (afaik it was made for another forum; Acmlm just copied the forumulas he used on the board he made it on first, which might have been Eyes on Final Fantasy, though I'm unsure) and the shop/status image are merely extensions of it. And they're not completely useless; they can be used on a user's desktop (Acmlm uses it, I used to use it before GD crapped) to check your posts/level/whatever without having to open your browser-of-choice to look at it.


Anyway, the more of these kind of things, the better; having more and better user/board status overviews is always good, especially when the data necesary to build something like this is already there so it's just the script that needs to be made.
What data? There's nothing that keeps track of the posts-in-forums data. Nowhere. That would be too much of a hassle, for the database and the coder(s). The list you see in the "Posts by Forum" link in a user's profile is generated when requested, and only used on that page. As soon as that script finishes, the statuses are gone. The script that would make this would have to gather and compare the data for every user and then display it. That would suck up tons of resources, especially on such a large board with thousands of users.

Not to mention, what's so great about displaying user/board statuses? ZOMGZ I POSTED THE MOSTED I HAVE SUPRE WOOT ZKILLZ ZOMGZ ... if you really need to check shit, use stats.php or the damned memberlist, or check your profile. What would be the point, anyway? YAY I POSTED MORE THAN U IN FORUM ASDF I WINNAR!

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Ok, I have no problem with guys rejecting things. But stop with the godamn it uses resources shit. Who cares, it is meant to be used. Is it not? What is the point of having a server and using .94 % of it? And no I am not saying Acmlms board uses .94% its just an example. Resources... Now resources are used all over this board, so get used to it. I think its a good idea. I would like to see what others think.
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Posted on 01-26-05 04:11 AM Link | Quote
This wouldn't be normal strain that the board uses. This owuld be fucking hell.
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Posted on 01-26-05 01:43 PM Link | Quote
Heavy script? Not at all, just a matter of multi-table queries and selecting the poster, thread and forum ID. You know what's 'heavy'? Things like rank.php, and of course all of those oh so precious 80+ KB post layouts the most commoners of this board use. And I'm aware that Acmlm copied the EXP and level calculations from Final Fantasy Legend's vBulletin, where he originally made them too (oh, not EoFF btw), but I guess that was from before your time, 'Xkeeper'.

if you really need to check shit, use stats.php or the damned memberlist, or check your profile. What would be the point, anyway?
It's just a matter of having it there or not, which doesn't necesarily mean you're forced to use it. Apperantly some people do (Randy in this case, and there are undoubtfully other people that want to see something like this) so it wouldn't hurt having there. But, of course, what would be 'the point'?

Let me ask this question, what is 'the point' of the ACS, the EXP/level calculations, color chart, Photo album, memberlist, etc. There is no real point to them, but they're there for ease, for fun and/or to add more functionality to the board. You know why vBulletin is so succesfull (don't get me wrong, I hate VBB's, now THOSE boards suck up unnecesary resources)? Because it offers a ton of features and it allows users to check pretty much any type of data at any given time. Yes, VBB is successfull, they've earned thousands of dollars with it after all.

Just admit it if you just don't like a feature like that and you are against it, but don't give me a heap of shit.

Either way, guess it's just a matter of how the board owners feel about this, depending on how many people would want this. I wouldn't mind something like this being made, the more overviews, the better.
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Posted on 01-26-05 03:19 PM Link | Quote
i always figured that Message boards were for the exchange of information and ideas, i fail to see how this makes the exchange of said information and ideas better?

i don't quite mind these features, but as Narf said, it's stupid to pretend they are useless. They're as useless as all the other features in this board are.

If you simply accept that these features are, as lenophis said, simply another way to have a "dick measuring contest", then you will clearly see how useless/usefull all the other features are.

now keep in mind, i'm not commenting on whether or not the board should or should not have dickmeasuring features, i'm just saying don't try to pretend they're not here

Originally posted by Randy53215
Ok, I have no problem with guys rejecting things. But stop with the godamn it uses resources shit. Who cares, it is meant to be used. Is it not? What is the point of having a server and using .94 % of it? And no I am not saying Acmlms board uses .94% its just an example. Resources... Now resources are used all over this board, so get used to it. I think its a good idea. I would like to see what others think.


i completely agree Randy. I mean jesus, has anyone who comments about it taking too much of the board's resources actually seen the fucking code?? If they have, they will realize how dumb that comment is. Such features are nothing compared to the existing inefficiencies and wasted space of the board.

it's like loading a pick-up truck with the entire contents of your home, then adding a matchbox and complaining that the matchbox will weigh down the car.

personally i don't even like the idea, i just don't like the atittude and cited reasons for rejecting it.
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Posted on 01-26-05 04:18 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gavin
I mean jesus, has anyone who comments about it taking too much of the board's resources actually seen the fucking code?? If they have, they will realize how dumb that comment is. Such features are nothing compared to the existing inefficiencies and wasted space of the board.

it's like loading a pick-up truck with the entire contents of your home, then adding a matchbox and complaining that the matchbox will weigh down the car.
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Posted on 01-26-05 10:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gavin
i completely agree Randy. I mean jesus, has anyone who comments about it taking too much of the board's resources actually seen the fucking code?? If they have, they will realize how dumb that comment is. Such features are nothing compared to the existing inefficiencies and wasted space of the board.
Have you actually seen the fucking code for AcmlmBoard v1.A1? I know I haven't. Have you actually seen the fucking code for AcmlmBoard v1.92? Comapre it to v1.8a, or v1.7, or even v0.7.
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Posted on 01-26-05 11:09 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elric
Originally posted by Gavin
i completely agree Randy. I mean jesus, has anyone who comments about it taking too much of the board's resources actually seen the fucking code?? If they have, they will realize how dumb that comment is. Such features are nothing compared to the existing inefficiencies and wasted space of the board.
Have you actually seen the fucking code for AcmlmBoard v1.A1? I know I haven't. Have you actually seen the fucking code for AcmlmBoard v1.92? Comapre it to v1.8a, or v1.7, or even v0.7.


i have seen 1.92, and nothing higher. And yes, i have seen previous board code. It sucks balls, but just as bad itself is the DB setup
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Posted on 01-26-05 11:20 PM Link | Quote
And isn't v1.92 hella-better than previous versions? It's getting better with time. One day, it may even be the perfect board. But remember: When Acmlm started this, he was still rather new to PHP, and he didn't even use a MySQL DB; it was all stored in text files.
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Posted on 01-27-05 12:35 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elric
And isn't v1.92 hella-better than previous versions? It's getting better with time. One day, it may even be the perfect board. But remember: When Acmlm started this, he was still rather new to PHP, and he didn't even use a MySQL DB; it was all stored in text files.


i'm not saying it's anyone's fault. my first board that i'm making probably sucks balls too. All i'm saying is that it's silly to reject the addition of one more feature when there are already so many.

to restate my original analogy:
"it's like loading a pick-up truck with the entire contents of your home, then adding a matchbox and complaining that the matchbox will weigh down the car."

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Posted on 01-27-05 11:48 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elric
One day, it may even be the perfect board.
I doubt, this board does have some nice features, but things like post layouts should've never been added, there's a reason pretty much NO other known message board system features this..

I think this board will in time make a nice impact on the gaming forum systems range, but this board is far from professional, both looks and coding wise. And yes, I too have seent he code of 1.9x and lower. Anyway, we're dwarreling off subject.
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Posted on 01-27-05 04:21 PM Link | Quote
Well, that was Acmlmboard 2.0 was going to be. A whole recoding from scratch...

Besides, why not add this feature? I don't see anything wrong with it, and as long you hide it... somehow.

Nothing wrong if people post little more becuse of it, it's just when they start to spam when it's a problem...
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Posted on 01-27-05 04:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Nothing wrong if people post little more becuse of it, it's just when they start to spam when it's a problem...
This too, I see as an argument being used to disagree with the addition of a feature, very commonly. But why? All features do somehow hold a risk of making people 'spam' to get higher/better on that feature *cough especially post radar and ACS cough*, there shouldn't even be a board in the first place if you're afraid of people 'spamming'.
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