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Jesper
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Posted on 01-22-05 06:01 PM Link
Oh, okay! Because 1.8a is what we're supposed to be aiming for, I will immediately cut polls, ACS, Post Radar, Edit Layout, ...

I'm not gonna change it unless like half the board gets upset at me for this - and your complaints are the only ones I've gotten about it this far. You better just get used to it.
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Posted on 01-22-05 06:14 PM Link
I actually have to look for it every time I try to send a PM.

To the right, I says.
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Posted on 01-22-05 06:18 PM Link
Originally posted by max
I actually have to look for it every time I try to send a PM.

To the right, I says.
That point is only valid if you didn't have to look for it before. Did you?

Edit: My major point is that the link could have been in the other end of the page and be completely illogically placed, but you would always complain if it was moved and you had to re-train your muscle memory. The reason why it's on the left and not on the right is because it matches the Admin row for some sort of "less severe/more often" scale:

Send private message | Rate user | Remove user from post radar | Block layout
Admin: View private messages | View votes | View blocked layouts status | Edit user

You probably want to send a private message more often than Block or unblock layouts, and as an admin, editing a user is more severe than viewing private messages.

The way it was before was jumbled:

View posts by this user | View threads by this user | Send private message

View posts, okay, view threads, okay, send a message? Two of those are just observing something by the user, the last one is sending him something. I could go as far as to agree that it made sense when we only had six links or something down there because it's not big enough for us to make a whole new row for it, I guess, but it doesn't make sense now.

If you really want to keep the Send private message on the right, propose a new order of these links --

Send private message | Rate user | Remove user from post radar | Block layout
Admin: View private messages | View votes | View blocked layouts status | Edit user

-- that makes sense for both Admins and ordinary users (View private message is near Send private message, and Rate user is near View votes). That'd help, at least.


(edited by Jesper on 01-22-05 10:34 AM)
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Posted on 01-22-05 08:12 PM Link
That's actually kind of sad, is it really that challenging for people to change links in profile.php? Assuming that this is a released version, people will be "using" this and will / should be able to modfiy things themself. Big deal ...

But I'm looking forward to this, mainly for editpoll.php, and that "other" thing that's supposedly going to be "awesome" or something.


(edited by Xeogred on 01-22-05 11:13 AM)
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Posted on 01-22-05 08:18 PM Link
The challenge isn't changing the links; I could do that in a jiffy if I wanted to. But no other order of the links makes much sense - we tried a few before settling on the current one, and it just happens to not 'work' for those who want Send private message on the opposite side. We don't even know if the rest of the board likes it fine, just that max and knuck don't, so we're not really sure we should change it in the first place.

With very few exceptions, the easiest part of developing this board is writing code.
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Posted on 01-22-05 08:28 PM Link
Regular user:
Rate user | Remove user from post radar | Block layout | Send private message

Admin:
View votes | View blocked layouts status | View private messages | Send private message | Edit User

Problem solved.
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Posted on 01-22-05 08:52 PM Link
Problem not solved. There really ARE two rows. The second row is only visible if you're an admin. What's in the second row must therefore stay in the second row, and what's in the first row must stay in the first row.
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Posted on 01-22-05 08:55 PM Link
Originally posted by Jesper
The challenge isn't changing the links; I could do that in a jiffy if I wanted to. But no other order of the links makes much sense - we tried a few before settling on the current one, and it just happens to not 'work' for those who want Send private message on the opposite side. We don't even know if the rest of the board likes it fine, just that max and knuck don't, so we're not really sure we should change it in the first place.

With very few exceptions, the easiest part of developing this board is writing code.


I wasn't exactly "gearing" that comment towards you, if you thought so.

I personally like it in the top right corner, isn't that where's it's usually been?

Either way I'm not really bothered by it.


(edited by Xeogred on 01-22-05 11:55 AM)
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Posted on 01-22-05 11:26 PM Link
Originally posted by Retro-Kasumi

A standardised format for making new schemes for the board. Custom page headers, custom post formats, custom index.php format, the works.



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Posted on 01-23-05 12:06 AM Link
Originally posted by Smallhacker
A search function!


I think a search function would be great. It would just search the site (maby with an advanced option to search only certain fourms etc.) for a word or set of words. So you could search "Ranma scheme" for example and it would pop up with Trapster's post above. Just a thought. Sort of like a mini google that only searches this board.


(edited by Keikonium on 01-22-05 03:07 PM)
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Posted on 01-23-05 12:11 AM Link
Rate user | Remove user from post radar | Block layout | Send private message
Admin: View votes | Edit user | View blocked layouts status | View private messages

Problem solved.


(edited by knuck on 01-22-05 03:12 PM)
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Posted on 01-23-05 12:38 AM Link
Originally posted by knuck
Originally posted by Jesper
It is where it should be. Your drugs have just degraded in quality.
In 1.8a
Jesper's version

It's supposed to be at the right side.
At least change the place with Block Layout.
It's supposed to be wherever the fuck the coders want it. If it bothers you so much, set up your own board and move the link.

Problem solved.
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Posted on 01-23-05 12:43 AM Link
Sorry Cheveyo, it doesn't work like that.
Also, he asked for suggestions, i gave suggestions.

It would be better if you could keep your angst toward me out of the board.
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Posted on 01-23-05 03:11 AM Link
Originally posted by knuck
Sorry Cheveyo, it doesn't work like that.
Also, he asked for suggestions, i gave suggestions.

It would be better if you could keep your angst toward me out of the board.


Yes, you gave a suggestion. But it was rejected. More than once. One of these days, you'll probably learn that when people reject a suggestion of yours multiple times, it's prudent to drop it.

Heh, we can but dream.
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Posted on 01-23-05 03:36 AM Link
Originally posted by Jesper
- Something else. Something else that's good; very good. I won't tell you yet, but you WILL like it.


PLEASE, let it be whatever makes the post count show up on the left, below our names!! If not, maby include that...soon.
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Posted on 01-23-05 03:46 AM Link
As long as we're talking about moving links, I think it'd be a lot better if they were somewhere above the Sample Post. Often I have to block a layout that simply will not load (but won't stop trying, thus making the whole page not load), but because it won't load, I can't get to the 'block layout' link!

It'd also be nice if you could hide our rank without setting it to none, so you could have a custom rank but still show the real one in your layout.

For bug fixes, it still says 'email withheld from non-staff users' even if it isn't.

Finally, someone mentioned custom themes... I think it'd be really cool to have a light blue one, kinda like my layout. Or even cooler to have one that links to a local CSS file (file:///c/acmlm.css or some such), so that you can customize it. (Or even just per-user custom board headers with HTML/Javascript enabled, as I've brought up before... It wouldn't be exploitable because nobody else could see it. )


(edited by HyperHacker on 01-22-05 06:48 PM)
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Posted on 01-23-05 04:12 AM Link
that last one won't work...not unless the CSS is copied into the board's DB; after all, I don't have access to your C drive and my C drive certainly won't have that .css file
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Posted on 01-23-05 04:40 AM Link
Keikonium: That's the GD library and it *WAS* back for a period of time, but I have no idea why it vanished.
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Posted on 01-23-05 06:05 AM Link
Originally posted by HyperHacker
As long as we're talking about moving links, I think it'd be a lot better if they were somewhere above the Sample Post. Often I have to block a layout that simply will not load (but won't stop trying, thus making the whole page not load), but because it won't load, I can't get to the 'block layout' link!

It'd also be nice if you could hide our rank without setting it to none, so you could have a custom rank but still show the real one in your layout.

For bug fixes, it still says 'email withheld from non-staff users' even if it isn't.

Finally, someone mentioned custom themes... I think it'd be really cool to have a light blue one, kinda like my layout. Or even cooler to have one that links to a local CSS file (file:///c/acmlm.css or some such), so that you can customize it. (Or even just per-user custom board headers with HTML/Javascript enabled, as I've brought up before... It wouldn't be exploitable because nobody else could see it. )
This board has NO usable CSS hooks at all. You practically can't do even odd-row alternate styles. This will take a long time to correct all around the board, and we have the issue of first deciding what CSS hooks to use in the first place. I'm hoping that it'll come but not within, say, three months from now.

The "email withheld" thing has been solved for ages in the development copy. I'll ponder a "hide rank in title" checkbox.

knuck, what you're suggesting is that we switch to a completely different configuration with the seemingly only bit of logic being that it doesn't disrespect your muscle memory which will be retrained in a matter of months anyway. Read dan's post for the rest of what I was going to write. There's no point in repeating it, and it's what we all think. (And, anticipating a coming post, yes, it's way easier to add stuff because you don't have a hundred people with different ideas on where it should be or not, or why. Hell, besides the few bugs that were in Edit Layout, I didn't see a swarm of people bitching at it once that came, and that was a big change.)

Every guess for the "Something else" has been either way out in left field (user-defined user colors; it would be too easy to make them clash with board schemes or 'authority' colors) or too small.

Oh, and search the board by adding site:board.acmlm.org at the end of your google query.
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Posted on 01-23-05 06:33 AM Link
Originally posted by dan
Yes, you gave a suggestion. But it was rejected. More than once. One of these days, you'll probably learn that when people reject a suggestion of yours multiple times, it's prudent to drop it.

Heh, we can but dream.
I think board users should start reading a thread before posting.
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