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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1007/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Might be the only Mac I can afford.  Doesn't look very customisable...  |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 2389/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| For my knowledge, when you get a mac, you're stuck with that mac. | |||
MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 1301/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| Jesper: what exactly is different between Mac OS 9 and OS X that I can't run my old programs? There wasn't a processor shift, was there? Now the programs I'm using are FAT, since they run under the old 68000 series and the Power PC series. But they were made right around the time of the shift between those. Is there any work around for this short of me putting an OS 9 system folder on a flash drive and using that? | |||
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69  Posts: 1606/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkinsWell, for starters, Mac OS X is built on an entirely different foundation. Mac OS X is actually based on UNIX, or more specifically, BSD. Mac OS 9, however, runs as a subsystem - a special environment started via the "Classic" app - under specific circumstances allowing you to run all your old apps (OS 9 or earlier) alongside the new ones. And by all I mean the absolute majority, there's apparently a select few that do not run. The processor shift you mentioned did happen, but every OS version since then has had built into the system an emulator that allows you to run 68K-apps natively. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1136/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, my thoughts: 1) Pretty. Very small... and very cute. 2) If I got one, I'd up the RAM, and I'd likely get the faster of the two 3) It'd be good to get me that second Mac I'd like, for in the lounge... I use my PC less and less, but it'd be nice to have a faster Mac. I've been considering the iMac G5, but this is more affordable.... 4) It'd be a good suggestion for my brother, who'd like a cheap computer.... (if he gets a Mac, I guess I'll have to spend less time fixing his inevitable porn site related spyware problems, for starters) 5) It'd be a great suggestion for my mother or nanna, who both find themselves fed up with Windows frequently 6) They'd be great at work with a KVM switch for when our analysts need to occasionally support OS X... (pity our call logging software probably won't work on Mac though, or I'd be using it all the time) Their size makes them perfect! 7) I've been hearing about this on the rumor mill for ages, glad it was more than a rumor!! 8) Pretty  (edited by Tarale on 01-11-05 10:07 PM) (edited by Tarale on 01-11-05 10:08 PM) |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 965/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| I'd rather get a real Mac or just a $500 PC (It IS possible to build a somewhat gaming oriented PC for ~ $500, even if it isn't the best). | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7216/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| There is thoose switch thingies where you can switch the input from a computer to another with a simple switch. Which is apparently for peopel who don't want yet another computer on their table but want to have two computers. I have seen a such thing in my school. |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 1608/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by Kitten YifferYou're referring to KVM switches (Keyboard, Video, Mouse). They kick ass. Sadly, I just have one for PS/2+VGA. I'd want a USB+DVI switch, but most companies seem to miss such a product. (Sad; DVI is, unsurprisingly, way better than VGA, comes with most new TFTs and graphics cards, and VGA can even flow through a DVI connector via different pins - no real conversion is actually done, so it won't lag!) Edit: Belkin carries a USB+DVI switch! (edited by Jesper on 01-12-05 12:23 PM) |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 1234/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Looks pretty cool, at the very least. Though I wonder where it's designed to go (IE will there be problem if you put it on the floor as you would with a typical PC tower)...my computer desk has literally NO room for anything else on it with monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 1609/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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If it was a little bigger, you could use it as a mousepad  Seriously though, if you have a TFT, just stick it under the display (near the foot), and if you have a CRT, tape it to the top of it. The general idea is that if you can fit a CD jewel case on the desk, you could fit this in. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7219/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Heh, then if I buy that switcher together... well I do consider using a seperate screen for the macintosh or something.  The only spare screen I have is a old SVGA screen and a old Macintosh screen. Which is surely SVGA too. ...maybe I should wait for awhile, it may get even more cheaper. |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 1612/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by Kitten YifferActually, no. The dollar's in the can and the hardware is pretty much the low boundary for what they produce these days (aside from iPod CPUs). The only real reasons to wait is to avoid some problems with the first round of units, and to get OS X 10.4 (Tiger) instead of 10.3 (Panther), when it ships before the summer. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 261/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| computers like that don't look like they allow for a whole lot of additions or changes.... my comptuer has tons and tons of free space.... I could probably add a TB of hard drive space into it, if I had the money.... plus a gig and a half of ram.... and still have room for another CD Drive..... I would rather have a big computer that is versatile, than that little dinky one that is stuck that way |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 2907/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Heh, I have an old computer like that, tons of room for expansion. It'd kick ass if it weren't too old to use anything relatively new.Originally posted by Ziffski So I'm not the only one who compared that. It's got at least 1.5 inches to go before it catches up to me. Seriously, if I needed a Mac for some reason, I'd probably get one of those. |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 1620/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHackerYeah, I know. A whopping 2.0 inches thick. geeo, if they had not made it so small they probably would have been able to include more HD space. I would have liked dual RAM slots if not anything else, simply because 1GB RAM sticks are bloody expensive. But again. Firewire or USB 2.0 HDs are widely available. So are external disc drives. But I get your point. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1141/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The more I think about this, the more I want one. It WILL need more RAM though. I know from experience that I want more than 256 for OS X. |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119  Posts: 4776/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| MT luvs mac Wasn't me. (edited by Rain on 01-14-05 03:51 AM) |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 1031/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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I'll definately consider getting one for browsing purposes. All I'd need is firefox, Photoshop, FTP, text editor and IM programs and I'd be ready to go  |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 1632/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-AstraRegarding programs on OS X, for anyone who wants to know: A great text editor is SubEthaEdit. Despite being plain awesome with syntax highlighting and lots of supported languages out of the box (and making a popup menu for stuff like functions, declares, method definitions, etc), you can also use it to host a server where you can edit the document live with other SEE users. I used this with a board member to debug a javascript once, and it worked great. If you want an IM program, you want Adium. Adium is an open source multi-IM client based on libgaim (which surprisingly means GAIM's lib, gasp). It has styles for the message view and the most customizable contact list I've seen since... ever. The only good FTP program I've found is Transmit. Other programs either don't work in the same "your stuff on the left, the server on the right" principle, or they try to build on it which mostly turns out confusing. The jury's still out on drawing programs; to get a Photoshop license I'd have to trade in my Windows CS CD, and GIMP just doesn't work that well. However, since I have a PowerBook I also have a trackpad, so thankfully I won't be doing much drawing. Paint Shop Pro for Windows is still the best image editing app ever. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1143/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Hmm, I haven't tried SubEthaEdit, I've been using TextEdit, vim or Taco HTML Edit depending on my mood at the time. I can definitely concur with what's been said re: Adium and Transmit. I tried Fire as an IM program, but never got real fond of it. With software things, I have three depending on what I need to do. I have Photoshop CS, which is fine and generally I use for actual photos these days, Corel Painter 8, which I have used to draw things on here with (requires tablet), and Pixen, which is generally used for pixel art. Out of those, only Pixen is free, and it's pretty cute I also recommend "Quicksilver", it's a search tool I've been using for some months now, and it stops me going through the Finder to open an App or find things. Click the icon, start typing "ter" and it will bring up the Terminal, etc. |
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