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Does it really matter which OS an editor is programmed in?| Read the post first! It's not that hard! | Yes. Only Windows programs |
30.6%, 11 votes | Yes. Only DOS programs |
2.8%, 1 vote | Not really, but I prefer Windows |
19.4%, 7 votes | Not really, but I prefer DOS |
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0.0%, 0 vote | No. Any OS is fine. |
5.6%, 2 votes | If it works, who cares? |
36.1%, 13 votes | Windows, because XP DOS stinks |
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tuna ... Level: 3 Posts: 11/2 EXP: 51 For next: 77 Since: 12-02-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| Keep in mind this does not deal with any editor that is more featured in Windows-- assume that any editor programmed for either environment is just as functional as it would be in another environment. (to prevent "but winderz editerz r betar!" type crap) (edited by uncreative username on 12-02-04 08:20 PM) (edited by uncreative username on 12-02-04 08:21 PM) (edited by uncreative username on 12-02-04 08:41 PM) |
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DahrkDaiz Red Super Koopa  Acmlm's Mosts 2005 Best ROM Hacker Level: 45  Posts: 402/885 EXP: 643520 For next: 16644 Since: 03-15-04 From: K-Town Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I voted if it works, who cares? I mean you can't be choosy about editors if you can't build them yourself. | |||
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 2716/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Any os is fine. Yup that's what I'm voting for. | |||
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 857/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by Rebecca Daise altho I do agree with this, seeing as I can't build an editor, I much prefer windows editors. With windows, I can use the mouse more effectively, and use other screens I may have open. I hate using keyboard commands (which I seem to find ALOT in DOS) so if I can avoid those thats great. |
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Karadur Fire Snake  Level: 48  Posts: 225/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Since you said that the editor would work exactly the same on any OS, I'll choose the 'It doesn't matter' choice. | |||
KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86  Posts: 2115/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Its like pencils "If it can write, and it can erase, then why use something else?" As long as it doesnt crash every 10 seconds, Im fine with whatever Im given to use. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 6390/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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WHY NOT PROGRAM EVERYTHING IN JAVA???  Then platforms really dosen't matter... ...oh wait, Java is not for DOS.  If it really have to be programmed for a spefic OS, it's gotta be Windows.  |
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FloBo Koopa Level: 17  Posts: 18/101 EXP: 20723 For next: 4020 Since: 09-11-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 13 hours |
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| I think, Windows is the best platform to program an editor for just because it's the most used OS on private computers. In my opinion, editors for Windows, DOS and Linux are allright (Those are the OS's I am used to...^^). If a new developed editor wasn't exclusively programmed for MacOS or something Aplle-like, I won't ever complain    Programming in Java is some kind of a bad idea. Java is horribly slow, so where's the advantage of a slow program you can use on your mobile to edit roms?! And yes! It actually isn't working in DOS^^...  |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43  Posts: 258/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| Java isn't as slow as you think. Sure, when you first start using a program written in Java, it can be a teensy bit slow, but that's because the program is being recompiled as you use it. For example, if you've got say, a palette editor written in Java, and you bring up a dialog, close it, then reopen the dialog, the second instance of the dialog will be much much faster. The same goes for .NET also. Hell, I was thinking of writing my future editors in Java, and the only reason I didn't was because the whole event handling system of Swing seems ... weird to me. I may still write an editor in C# though.  Oh yeah, and in response to the thread title, beggars can't be choosers. (edited by dan on 12-03-04 11:29 AM) |
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tuna ... Level: 3 Posts: 32/2 EXP: 51 For next: 77 Since: 12-02-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| I'm mildly shocked at how there's 7 people who would only use Windows editors. Whatever happened to, say, three years ago when it was mainly DOS editors? XD [coughs] Anyway, there's the same amount of people who don't care, so... |
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Dish Spiny Level: 38 Posts: 209/596 EXP: 355646 For next: 14801 Since: 03-15-04 From: Disch Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 18 days |
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Thank God that's over. There shouldnt've been that many DOS editors 3 years ago... it actually kind of got on my nerves that there was. Nobody runs DOS anymore*. It's archaic and stupid. It should have disappeared long ago. Thankfully now people are finally stopping to develop... 10 years after DOS's hey-day. Not suprising that Windows is dominant here... since the only other OS listed was DOS -- and not MacOS or Linux (Polls never do provide the right options... which is why I think the feature is rather stupid... but that's another issue )Ideally, platform independance is what you want to go for. Java is great for this... despite being a bit... sluggish. I'm not a fan of C# because it doesn't really serve a purpose -- I mean Java already does the platform independant high level thing.. and does it quite well. C# is MS's way of saying "hey we can do that too"... only it's years behind. Java has had time to get a big supportive base, optimized and quick executables, and wide support. C# is still relatively new to the table... and doesn't really bring anything new to the table (but of course, MS will muscle it in to the market anyway). I'm a fan of good old fashioned C/C++. There's some libraries to achive platform independance, but they're typically harder to use than the native API (which I why I never really got into them for editor development). People using C/C++ and other lower languages will just likely code for whatever OS they're running (which, in the rom-hacking scene, seems to be mostly Windows). * ( Yes I know there are people that still run DOS... but not in the same manner as a modern OS -- like... they don't run DOS for their everyday work. People that typically run it do so because they have DOS programs/games they still want to use... or they haven't discovered Linux yet.... or they're clinging to some insane sense of nostolgia. ) (edited by Disch on 12-03-04 09:44 PM) |
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Darkmatt Red Cheep-cheep Level: 24  Posts: 165/212 EXP: 75447 For next: 2678 Since: 03-15-04 From: Clarkston, WA Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 10 hours |
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| As long as it works, I'm fine. Yep. That's me! |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 1100/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| If you program a Java GUI properly it isn't that slow. One thing I haven't been able to figure out with Java is how to allocate more memory. The environment I used only allowed like 10MB of memory for program variables. Then again, for an editor you shouldn't need that much. What I was making was a tracer/disassembler with memory states being saved and swapped = lots of stuff. Dan: I think Swing is on the way out. I'll look into that. That being said, I really prefer that an editor be released on whatever platform I'm using. I'm not going to go out and buy a Mac just to use an editor. Luckily I have access to Macs in many campus computer labs. As well as Unix machines. |
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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61  Posts: 854/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I voted for windows..but thats just because I prefer it...but really, as long as it works, its fine...doesnt really matter which. | |||
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 2304/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I'll use DOS editors but if a Windoze version is available and doesn't suck horribly, I'll take it any day. And FORGET Java.  |
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Tamarin Calanis We exist. Earth exists. The universe exists. Do we really need to know why? Level: 59 Posts: 185/1802 EXP: 1672751 For next: 377 Since: 07-12-04 From: The gas station on the corner... Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| If there are two versions that are equal, I'd go with whichever one has a smaller filesize. It's a leftover habit from the days of Dialup. Though I'd much rather see editors that work regardless of your OS... even though I along with most people use Windows, there are those who do not. And they shouldn't be left out. And yeah, DOS is dead. Or rather, it should be. Like a zombie, I suppose - not entirely dead, but it should be. (edited by Cheveyo Chowilawu on 12-05-04 09:36 PM) |
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