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Spekkio Level: 8 Posts: 4/22 EXP: 1898 For next: 289 Since: 11-29-04 From: End of Time Since last post: 15 days Last activity: 70 days |
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Not me, Now I can't even fight Lavos anymore because the Dragon Tank doesn't show up anymore. I never touched that area! | |||
xZeaLitYx Cheep-cheep Level: 23 Posts: 37/199 EXP: 66932 For next: 791 Since: 04-13-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 3 hours |
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I'm in the process of transferring my changes from one rom to another. I believe my original was corrupt from the get-go through a few screwups and whatnot. I'll be done soon, as I do plan on creating a thread for the project once I finally iron out the plot. | |||
Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 202/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Not me, Now I can't even fight Lavos anymore because the Dragon Tank doesn't show up anymore. I never touched that area! If you edited that ROM with v1.03 or earlier, you may need to just throw it out. While v1.04 will no longer create bad map packets, I do not think it can fix them either. Its also noteworthy that most of the bosses Lavos emulates show up in a completely different Location than the one you initially fought them in. And the code to go to them is stored in the Lavos fight. ---Evil Peer |
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Spekkio Level: 8 Posts: 5/22 EXP: 1898 For next: 289 Since: 11-29-04 From: End of Time Since last post: 15 days Last activity: 70 days |
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I've got V1.04 and it is STILL happening! | |||
xZeaLitYx Cheep-cheep Level: 23 Posts: 38/199 EXP: 66932 For next: 791 Since: 04-13-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 3 hours |
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Yeah, Crono's room just corrupted itself. However, I believe I can remember every step. I'm going to try and reproduce exactly what I did now. Edit: Success. Got a red screen in Crono's room. ~ Step 1: Open TF, load 4.0 mb CT Rom (downloaded from ROMNation for experimental purposes) Step 2: Change all strings in 'Years' except ?????? by +2 (for B.C., subtract 2) Step 3: Save Step 4: Add two new items beneath 2 Feathers; 232: Get-Well C 233: Pie Step 5: Save Step 6: Add these descriptions in Item Descriptions; E8: Get well soon!{null} E9: Freshly made pie{null} Step 7: Save Step 8: Paste the following Strings in Index Dialogue (0x1EE300) 01: ... Badger the piano player, and you will face serious consequences.{null} 05: Travelers? What is your business? Do not loiter in Porre, or you will be severely fined.{null} 06: Do business in front of the counter. Do not make me repeat myself.{null} 1B: OFFICER: This is the central barracks of the Porre army. Direct inquiries to me.{line break} Where's the mayor?{line break} Why martial law?{null} 1C: The position of mayor and elder was nullified one year ago. The citizens of Porre no longer require a civil leader as their ancestors did in the past.{null} 1D: The increase of civil violence and discontent at the old system have caused the people of Porre to look to us, who can provide a stable order.{null} 21: I like swords.{delay 05} What? Sorry, daydreaming. Buzz off.{null} 22: Bleah, this potato slop ain't so great, kid. I'd just as fast eat leather!{null} 23: Sheesh, I'm tired. First break all day, so pipe down and let me eat.{null} 24: What? Just because I'm a chef doesn't mean I can't trash ya!{null} 25: April 16th, A.D. 1002 The stars are especially clear, and I have had the pleasure of observing{page break} a comet dash across the night sky. I think of home in times like this - Of my smiling parents, and Norris, my kid brother. Judging from the{page break} state of world affairs, I pray he does not follow my path, and enlist. If he does, however, I'm sure he will make a fine leader.{page break} A disturbance has been reported near the forest. Good night. -o- W.I. -o-{null} 26: I cannot speak to you, as I am on duty. Just don't touch anything.{null} 27: Oh, hello! I'm William Ishito. I must have dozed off. These barracks are not conducive to reading, eh?{page break} Hmm...I do believe I am tired, however. I will resume my nap, as I have the night shift. Do stop by sometime. I would hugely enjoy{page break} a chat with you fellows! Farewell. Oh, and I've misplaced a jewel of mine near the food stocks. If you find it, you can have it.{null} 2A: What are you looking at, punk? You got a problem? Wanna solve it? Get out of here, now!!{null} 2B: C-can't take it anymore... My sons...all drafted...{null} 2C: Fiona's Forest may have been saved 400 years ago, but if Porre keeps up this crazy logging, it may have been a futile effort...{null} 2E: I'm the piano man{note}{line break} I need a relaxing tune.{line break} Yeeeah! Get crunk!!{null} Step 9: Save Step 10: Paste the following Strings in Index Dialogue (0x370000) 00: Hey bud. I'm from Choras, with the pilgrims. Hard work, guarding! Har-har! {null} 01: 4/15/02 Today was pretty boring...but tomorrow, I have to go to a{page break} meeting with Marle and Lucca. It's tough being the top knight, but worth it, I guess. {page break} It's the negative 997th anniversary of defeating Lavos, as well...I'd much rather face him again than deal with polticians, but if it's for the safety of{page break} Guardia, I'll do it.{delay 03} Lucca wants to start an orphanage... Makes me think about kids of my own. Guess I'd be Uncle Crono to whoever{page break} she took in. Nice ring to it! Lucca says 03: {line break} Got a Pie, Red Katana, and Card!{null} 05: {Crono}...{full break} {Crono}!{full break} C'mon, {Crono}!{null} 06: {Marle}: Did you already forget?{line break} Today's a big day!{null} 07: {Marle}: Hear that? It's already {line break} 9 o'clock!!{null} 08: {Marle}: Daddy's got a meeting with{line break} some diplomats and we've gotta be{line break} there!{page break} Lucca's waiting too!{null} 09: {Marle}: Get in your tux and c'mon!{null} 0A: MOM: Good morning, {Crono}!{line break} Marle's in a bit of a fit, dear, but{line break} before you run off with your friends{line break} I have some errands for you to run!{null} 0B: MOM: Don't frown at me, mister!{line break} Now, you need to take a pie to Mrs.{line break} Alisa in Porre, this...sword-thingy to{line break} the Vanguard Captain, and this card{page break} for the Medina ferryman's wife. You{line break} an hour, son!{null} 0C: MOM: Run along now, and be back{line break} soon! See me when you're ready to{line break} go to Guardia Castle.{null} 44: Crono and Nadia make a nice couple! Here's to the future King Guardia the XXXIV, the hero himself!{full break} I just hope his reign is not tainted by all that trouble brewing in South Zenan...{null} 45: I'm glad the cathedral was restored after the Millennial Fair.{full break} Pilgrims from Choras often visit.{null} 4B: Been to Porre lately?{line break} Yes.{line break} No.{null} 4C: They seem to have it out for people from Truce...be careful!{null} 4D: Boy, has it changed!! Armed guards patrol the streets, coldly watching you...creepy!{null} 4E: Wanna hear some music?{line break} Sure.{line break} Sorry.{null} 4F: Have you been to the Vanguard Post, near the Cathedral? Yes.{line break} No.{null} 50: No? You need to get out more often.{null} 51: Those guys kick butt, eh? Sworn to protect the throne...{null} 53: Thanks! I'll play you a new song!{null} 54: All right, later.{null} 55: Bah, Cook and clean... Oh! Well come on in...! Leave some dirty dishes for me to clean, why don't you...!{null} Step 11: Save Step 12: Paste the following into Index Dialogue (0x3F8400) 26: Sorry, lost my voice.{null} Step 13: Save Step 14: Open Locations, Crono's Kitchen Step 15: Expand All Step 16: Under [05B5] (MOM's first strings when you wake up and come down the stairs), hit Command 5 times Step 17: Change first command to ItemAdd Red Katana, Update, Write to Memory Step 18: Change second command to ItemAdd Get-Well C, Update, Write to Memory Step 19: Change third command to ItemAdd Pie, Update, Write to Memory Step 20: Change fourth command to TextboxPersonal 2 (Got a Pie, R Katana, etc.), Update, Write to Memory Step 21: Change fifth command to PlaySound 09, Update, Write to Memory Step 22: Save Step 23: Close Event Editor, open Crono's Room Step 24: Do the following to Layer 1 Step 25: Do the following to Layer 2 Step 26: Do the following to Layer 1 Step 27: Fix Solidity (base of chairs is solid, wall is solid, counter is solid, plant is solid) Step 28: Open Event Editor Step 29: New Object Step 30: Startup/Idle: Make three new commands Step 31: First command - SetObjectCoords 151, 62, Update, Write to Memory Step 32: Third command - End, Update, Write to Memory Step 33: New command under Activate, Arbitrary 0 Step 34: Activate Command - TextboxPersonal 1, Update, Write to Memory Step 35: Save, Locations - Write to Memory, Save YES!!! It worked! I got a red screen in Crono's room. Alright, hell yes, I've nailed down a glitch/bug/fault on my own part. Alright. (edited by xZeaLitYx on 12-11-04 11:26 PM) |
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Spekkio Level: 8 Posts: 6/22 EXP: 1898 For next: 289 Since: 11-29-04 From: End of Time Since last post: 15 days Last activity: 70 days |
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What I just did was change Gaspar in the Programmer's ending to his Guru self and corrupted both that room AND the passage to Lavos! | |||
Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 203/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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I will try to check both of these issues sometime next week. ---Evil Peer |
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Spekkio Level: 8 Posts: 7/22 EXP: 1898 For next: 289 Since: 11-29-04 From: End of Time Since last post: 15 days Last activity: 70 days |
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I suggest looking at these issues NOW as my ROM has been trashed by these mysterious problems! | |||
Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 204/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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I suggest looking at these issues NOW as my ROM has been trashed by these mysterious problems! 1) I do not have access to the code right now. 2) I will not have time to look at it until next week. 3) I never made a guarantee of any sort. 4) You should have made a backup. 5) I do this for free. (And before you mention donations, thus far I have not received one) 6) I do not kowtow. 7) If you do not care for my program, do not use it. So, in short, your demand has been given the full gravity it deserves and is being duly ignored. I will look at these issues sometime during the next week. ---Evil Peer |
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 2877/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Spekkio Shut up. Be grateful that Evil Peer even released Temporal Flux. There's more than 1000 hours put in this program. |
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xZeaLitYx Cheep-cheep Level: 23 Posts: 39/199 EXP: 66932 For next: 791 Since: 04-13-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 3 hours |
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Yeah, and it isn't that hard to find and download a new rom. Plus, I've succeeded in my goal of exactly mapping out the steps to corrupting Crono's room, a method that doesn't seem dangerous. My hope is in the heavy usage of Write to memory. I am, however, going to wait for an examination before I work further, as Backups any more work on the project may be nullified if this is a progressive corruption that perhaps mathematically increases with more edits to the rom. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67 Posts: 1171/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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Lol, welcome to the world of betatesting. EP, did you have secret beta testers before you released it, or are these the first victims. (I really need to hack this game, wish I had time.) | |||
Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 205/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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did you have secret beta testers before you released it I had two beta-testers throughout the majority of the year's development. There were probably close to 150 point releases (maybe even 200). This thing has been pretty thoroughly tested, but apparently there are a few special case scenarios we were not quite able to hit. 11:02 EST Spekkio, the change you described does produce an error, but does not corrupt the ROM. Go to file offset 0x3614C4 and change the value 0x3F there to 0x80. There are two bugs at work here, value truncation and unauthorized writing to memory. The first has already been fixed, but I still need to figure out why the second is happening (I never told the Location to update its data, but it did anyway). For future reference, I will not investigate any bugs unless the appropriate packet identification is given (for example, the Location here is 17B; the event packet is 013). I do not have the time to search 512+ items to find an error. 15:17 EST I have resolved the previously mentioned issues. Zeality, you are getting a red room because you do not terminate the new object's event command. You need to stick a return in there. Once you do, the map will come up. Sort of. There is still some packet corruption going on here. My best guess is one new packet is overwriting the end of another or something. I am still investigating. But to reproduce this error, you need merely edit the map starting from "step 24" through to the end (and add a return to the new object's activate command). ---Evil Peer (edited by Evil Peer on 12-13-04 03:26 PM) |
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xZeaLitYx Cheep-cheep Level: 23 Posts: 40/199 EXP: 66932 For next: 791 Since: 04-13-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 3 hours |
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I'll hold off on doing any modification, then. Time to plan the plot. | |||
Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 206/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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(old link) Another bugfix release. v1.05 A further note while I am at it. Only a few string banks are expandable (and even those not by much). So, while you can edit any particular string and make it quite long, the overall space taken by all of the strings in that bank will not change. Meaning the last few strings will be truncated in favor of not overwriting adjoining data. Keep this in mind before you start writing something like long journal entries. I know of a means of (nigh) infinitely expanding strings, but I have not yet written the code for it. Do not expect to see this feature until sometime after I have added ROM expansion space usage. (edit) Bah! Linked old directory. ---Evil Peer (edited by Evil Peer on 12-13-04 09:44 PM) (edited by Evil Peer on 12-16-04 05:14 PM) |
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xZeaLitYx Cheep-cheep Level: 23 Posts: 41/199 EXP: 66932 For next: 791 Since: 04-13-04 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 3 hours |
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Will saving it with a new version of Temporal Flux that supports infinite String length work retroactively on a ROM that has been edited with previous versions? And small note; the About version still reads 1.04. (edited by xZeaLitYx on 12-13-04 05:25 PM) |
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Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 207/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Will saving with a new version that supports infinite String length work retroactively on a ROM that has been edited with previous versions? It would have to, or it would not work with the unmodified ROM. Once this feature is in, there will no longer be a discrete string editor for dialogue. Strings will be modified directly in the event editor. How exactly I will lay that out, I am still debating. (In the text commands, or in a mini-string editor above / below the event display?) the About version still reads 1.04 D'oh! Well, I was trying to rush it out the door before I had to go home. Something was bound to be missed. I will post an updated executable tomorrow. (The file version does still say 1.5.x though.) ---Evil Peer |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43 Posts: 345/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by Evil Peer motherfucking word . just know that there are people out there who do fully appreciate your work |
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Chickenlump Level: 41 Posts: 436/722 EXP: 474192 For next: 5953 Since: 03-15-04 From: Columbia City Indiana Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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---edit--- Fixed ----------- As for the string editing, I like the sound of a mini string editor, below the event display. That sounds handy. (edited by Chickenlump on 12-13-04 09:53 PM) |
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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 877/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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ill have to get it again,im on my new PC now, so I gotta get alot of things again, and since my other computer died, i have to also start the guide again, good thing I didnt lose much... |
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