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Posted on 11-25-04 08:19 AM Link | Quote
(This isn't specifically about videogames, it's about their market and involvement in the economy now and such, so I figured it could go here, if not feel free to move it...)

I really didn't mean the topic of this discussion to be like this, guess I should have been a little more clear ...

I was stating videogames are becoming more mainstream, more common. No longer are you a "nerd" because you might own a videogame system, or might have a Gameboy or something. Videogames are becoming perhaps the biggest form of entertainment nowadays. Developers who make games that we play, good game or not, if it sells, the bringing in the money.

But since this topic has become something else, why not ...

Karadur, I really don't know how you'd see Doom as such a violent, or uneasy game. I played the game at a friends house when I was in Kindergarden, and it did not scare me, make me want to "go out and shoot people" or make me sick from all the blood, because I even at a young age could easily use common sense and determine reality from fantasy.

But games these days, are different. If you were just talking about Doom 3, then yes I could agree to you at some point. There are parts in that game with bodies hanging on the ceilings and being stretched apart with there innards hanging out, yeah those parts were a little disturbing.

I still think the whole contreversary over the rating system is just simply plain out annoying. I mean I again, was playing games like Resident Evil and such in Elementary school, and I didn't have a problem with them. And it's quite annoying, especially last year when I was 16 I would be able to drive up to Gamestop, but wouldn't be able to buy rated M games. Doesn't matter what game it was, even if it were Halo, which on my opinion isn't so bad compared to other games, they wouldn't let me check them out.

I don't know, I've just naturally grown up seeing and playing violent games, without a problem.

And the GTA games, are not the worst games in the world. Maybe I just haven't looked too deep into the game but I remember my mom saying once "No you can never have those games, I hear you can take a hooker and rape them!" Bullshit entirely ... no where in any of those games, do you "rape" a woman or anything. San Andres has a lot of profanity, but just look at all those movies out there.

On games with "eye candy" for selling I think it just ridiculous. DOA XBV? I know someone who had it, and he brought it over to my birthday party. For about 5 minutes it was fun to laugh at, other than that I basically said screw it and went back to Halo. No offense, but truthfuly if any of you here buy a game for this kind of thing for 50$, that's just pathetic. I won't go into any more detail here because I think Zem perfectly summed this factor up.

Game quality has diminished over time, that's why these days I only look forward to the huge titles, like Halo, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Final Fantasy, mostly a lot of series that have been around for awhile, because if there past games have been good I'll know they'll be worth it.

Just my 2 cents, I guess.
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I don't know about others, but I never thought playing videogames made you a nerd. The only time I'd ever think of someone that way is if they spend most of their waking hours in front of a computer Yeah, videogames are becoming more mainstream, one of the biggest forms of entertainment, as you said. The thing down in the new Kirby game thread in General Haming comes to mind. This bit:

Originally posted by Hiryuu
I saw 65-year-old gamers in line of many when FFX came out talking about various things about the other FFs and other RPGs in general. Gamers exist in all ages for any game.



There's never been a time where I've personally seen older person buying a game for themselves. A few times I've been out at Walmart, and I've noticed people that looked older than me buying games, but most often I'd hear them mention something about buying it for their kid or something. Who knows though. That may just be an excuse so they don't feel embarassed

I'm not saying that I wanted to go out and shoot people after playing Doom, or any similar game As well as being scared by it, that's not really what I was getting at. I understand that games are just Fantasy, no matter how realistic they may get, but even with that in mind, some of they put in games (even old ones), makes me stop and wonder how far they're willing to go to sell the thing, but then again, they make what the people want to play.

The rating system, to me, is annoying as well. I think that three quarters of the people that buy games don't even think about the rating of a game when they make the choice to buy it. Myself, I want a game if:

a) It looks interesting
b) It's not too expensive

The only time I really look at the rating is after I buy the game, just to see what rating category it fits into. You say that you wouldn't even allowed to check out Halo, even if you were old enough to drive a car? Well, there's a bit of sensibility in that, since I'm sure stores would face some kind of penalty for selling M rated games to underage kids. Not that I'm saying you were underage then. The only thing I know about ratings is the letters for them (E, T, M, and any other ones). I'm not sure what the different ages are for each one

Halo really isn't a bad game to me either. Yeah, sure, it involves shooting stuff, which would set a couple people off right there I don't really understand why people would say that it's a 'bad' game though.

GTA games. The only ones I've played are some old overhead one for DOS (I think), and Vice City. The overhead one was on our old computer. I'm not able to find it now, and it was only a demo anyways I was just introduced to Vice City in the later part of this year, and I have to say it's fun. I was never told 'No. You can't play that sort of game.' as a kid. I've definitely been desensitized quite a bit since I first played that game I remember when I first got into it, I was up to a mission where you had to destroy a lady's car while she was in it, but without guns or anything. She kept on doing her 'Somebody please help me!' etc. all through the mission, and after finishing up on the computer for that day, I wondered what was wrong with the people who made that game. A couple weeks after that, I did the same mission again, and it wasn't 'disturbing' anymore. Just an annoyance that the car was so hard to hit

I played DOA XBV the night my friend bought it, and I have one word for it: *yawn*. It seems like only half the game is focused on volleyball, while the rest is spent in shopping, that odd jumping game, or anything else on there. I swear the only reason Josh bought it was 'cause it looked so realistic. Especially the characters I can't think of any other reason he'd be willing to pay 40 or 50 dollars just to get that game.

About game quality having diminished with time. I think that's pretty true as well. I look forward to Zelda, Metroid, etc. games, but still there's some that aren't part of any big series, and they're still just as good as a Mario game or similar. Not all good games have to come from the big companies, but most of 'em still do.
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