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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 646/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| (This isn't specifically about videogames, it's about their market and involvement in the economy now and such, so I figured it could go here, if not feel free to move it...) Would you look at that, people are starting to realize videogames aren't just for kids these days!  Link, and Radio to listen too. |
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Shady Milkman Shyguy Level: 17  Posts: 39/98 EXP: 22717 For next: 2026 Since: 05-03-04 Since last post: 58 days Last activity: 2 days |
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well if movies just stop sucking then that price difference might not be so  , But yea I believe this is so because of not the baby boomer generation its the same one that played space invaders and pac man. those are your 30-35 year old people who still play games. I mean I won't lie I'm addicted to video game I will probably will for the rest of my life to. Times change and video games are the next thing. Well has been the next thing for about 10 years. Well you catch the drift  |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 815/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Also, take a look at some of the titles: BMX XXX, Lisure(sp?) Suit Larry, DOA: Beach Vollyball, most fighting/shooting games, etc. I dont want to be seeing little 10 year old kids playing these kind if games  . This are adult games and the industry knows that its the 20-30 year olds with money, not most 10 year olds |
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Scatterheart Panser Level: 29 Posts: 35/342 EXP: 143409 For next: 4476 Since: 06-06-04 From: Sydney, Australia Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| But I'd say the 20 - 30 year olds only make up about 5% of the total gaming population. I'd say that the majority of gamers are around 15 - 18. I'm 19 mysef, and I'n fed up with paying $100 Australian for every game. I'm over it! I got every game I need on my computer. ROMs are the way for me. And sure, the 20 - 30 year olds are the ones with money, but they're usually interested in their career, or their girlfriends or something, they don't have enough time to play video games. It's all kids, that's it! Game companies are taking a huge risk on making these 'Adult Games' because they almost always go un-noticed, and most are really shit, frankly. Take a look at Duke Nukem. Ever since the PC version, it's been going really bad. And I mean really, really bad. As for Dead or Alive; there are ALOT more better games out there... Look at the button commands you need to do just to do a freak'n move! Bah! Give me Street Fighter any day! |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 6137/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Well, those games suck Keikonium from what I heard.  Duke Nukem 3D rocks, no questions. Sure there is adult content in there but frankly that game would get 11+ here if it wasn't for the violence... (yes, we rate movies with sex but with little violence with 11+ here). My parents played more videogames before even when it was for kids, it was never for kids. It was just labaled that way. And well, I think the age is getting higher becuse of the Gaming generation getting older too. I doubt that people stop playing when they reach a certain age. |
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Uncle Elmo Hammer Brother Partly Sweet, Helpful, good at advice and a half decent writer. Also modest. Level: 49 Posts: 783/1062 EXP: 845899 For next: 37984 Since: 03-15-04 From: Prestatyn, Uk Since last post: 23 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Scatterheart - You see there you'd be wrong. It's more like 70% are 20-30, as we've grown up with Videogames and still play them. We played our ataris as very young kids, then went on to the Master Systems, and the Genesis/Megadrive, and now we're all 128-bit owners. Not to mention that we have the biggest disposable income of any other group. It's no wonder they're targeting us nowadays. DOA XBV isn't THAT bad by the way, but that's another topic When people think of "Adult games" why do they always consider the ones to use Sex as the main motivating factor? Aren't Halo 2 and half Life 2 technically "Adult games" ? |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69  Posts: 1261/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by Uncle ElmoI like your logic, but people don't go around calling Rambo, Die Hard and Terminator Adult films. This is simply an extension of that. Adult by a long established association means movies, games, music with a sexual theme involved. Games and movies that are simply violent are called violent. |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 5243/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Hehe, they got more money to the gaming industry that Hollywood got to the movie industry... Sweet! And I |
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Scatterheart Panser Level: 29 Posts: 37/342 EXP: 143409 For next: 4476 Since: 06-06-04 From: Sydney, Australia Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| True there are some adults that play games, but I think most of them play just to spend time with their children. That's what my dad did. Sure, he enjoyed it, but really I was the only gamer. I dunno... Maybe it's just me getting sick of the latest games. Maybe if I had a bigger income, my opinion would be different. The only games I look forward to are Nintendo's. Like: Metroid Prime 2 Legend of Zelda (that new one that's coming out) Maybe some RPGs, but I've never owned a PS2. There are alot of good games on it, but are over-shadowed by the excess shit ones. Super Nintendo had the best RPGs really. I think that the Super Nintendo was overall the best console. And I loved Super Smash Bros. Melee. In my opinion, that was the best console multiplayer game ever! I spent a good 130 hours on it, and my friend had around 150 hours. I don't know any game that I've played that much. I just really wanna go in a competition, but I don't think that'd ever happen in Australia. *sigh* |
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Anya The Exile Ultima Mezcla de Yin Yan Level: 98  Posts: 3476/5337 EXP: 9530313 For next: 124040 Since: 03-15-04 From: South Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| I've been playing since I was six, like many within my generation. As we grow up, the games are made to suit the orginal generation of games, while also bringing back some of the classic games for the newer systems. I work in a game store, and I would say that more than half, are people between the ages of 17 and 30. Sure, you get the younger kids coming in, like 8-16, but it's not as much as the older crowd. We do get a lot of 16 year olds trying to get Halo 2 and San Andreas, and games that are rated M, and we just cannot sell it to them. I'm a bit glad that I didn't have that system when I was younger. |
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Scatterheart Panser Level: 29 Posts: 38/342 EXP: 143409 For next: 4476 Since: 06-06-04 From: Sydney, Australia Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Yeah, would've been a huge dissapointment. I remember Shadowrun was originaly going to have alcahol served in it, but they changed it to iced tea. |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 5251/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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| One of my friends is only 16 but he could buy Half-Life 2 which is rated 16+ in Sweden, I think... 10 year old kids can get 16+ rated games here. |
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Heian-794 Red Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 541/896 EXP: 611014 For next: 271 Since: 06-01-04 From: Kyoto, Japan Since last post: 21 days Last activity: 10 days |
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I'm roughly halfway to 50 ( and these days I don't play whatever the producers throw at us like I did a decade ago. Now, the games I like, I really like, and play all the time, but there are fewer of them. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 959/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Scatterheart *looks under carpet* Nope, I have no children yet When you reach our age you'll realise that so little has actually changed. I know people all the way up to their thirties that play stupid amounts of games, still. Just because they're adults, that doesn't mean they don't have the time to play videogames. That also doen't mean we have children I must admit that I don't play as much games as I used to when I was 15 (when it was the Saturn for me), but I do spend more time looking at the industry and following really innovative games. Sadly, the income from work that is spent on games *is* the only way to directly measure who is most into games, but it also means that I'm free to play anything I want. I don't have to rely on my parents to get games for me. I'm now financially free to buy what I want, and I still buy games. In my view, if that happens to you, you are a gamer |
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JR11 Rex Level: 35  Posts: 180/533 EXP: 278666 For next: 1270 Since: 06-07-04 From: Po-Town, ON Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| Sometimes I wonder what happened to the good ol' platformers I played when I was young. By today's standards, any good game has to involve sex, violence, or anything eyepopping just to get attention. It's kind of sad, actually. | |||
Karadur Fire Snake  Level: 48  Posts: 82/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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| One example of an 'adult' game that comes to mind is 'The Guy Game' for XBox. Apparently my friends bought it, and he showed me a link to the site over MSN. I'll say I was surprised It's sad to see that sort of thing happening to some games. I've heard a few people say that the games are designed for the audience that buys the most, but it's gone a bit too far. At least they have the decency to make you have to produce some sort of proof of your age before you buy certain games. Conker's Bad Fur Day fits into the 'you have to be old enough' category quite nicley. The first time I actually saw it, we were at Blockbuster, and oh, how I wanted to rent that game so badly, but I was only 17. A couple months ago, I had the thought to look for a ROM of the game, and I see why they put the age restriction on it now I've never laughed so hard playing any other game though On violent games, I don't remember how long ago it was now, but we were having a conversation during supper about violent videogames, and my parents asked us if we'd every played Duke Nukem 3D, Doom, or other similar games. These days I play those sorts of games when I feel like it. I guess back then the concern about kids doing what they do in videogames (stuff involving guns, etc.) was a big issue. It may still be now, but I'm not sure on that. I don't know about someone else, but even if I had the chance to get my hands on a gun, I wouldn't shoot everything that came toward me  Speaking of Doom, that's probably one of the more violent / eyepopping games I've played so far. Even though everything in the game is horribly pixellated most of the time, it still makes me uneasy when I see something like a body ripped in half and hanging from a tree or whatnot. I played the demo of Doom 3, and I have to say it looks quite violent as well.I still buy games that I want as long as I have the money, regardless of whether they're violent, intended for adults, or whatever else. I think I'm old enough to know the difference between what's real and fake, and to be able to handle those sorts of things appropriately. I looked into Half-Life 2 the other day; mostly some screenshots, and one of them that I remember was on a train or something, with some guy standing in front of you with a headcrab on his head. Blood's all over his shirt, obviously, and it made me think, "How far are they willing to take it?" It probably goes without saying that most games like that'll have some sort of parental control where you can set the level of violence, graphic detail, that sort of thing. I'm looking forward to the same two GCN games as Scatterheart right now. They both look real, which makes it more appealing to me. Sort of off topic, but I remember way back when we got our NES, how my Mom would spend practically every waking moment she had playing Mario These days she doesn't play videogames anymore, but she still sits down and watches us sometimes. It makes me sort of uncomfortable when I'm playing something on the computer that could be considered violent, and she sits down to watch me. I wonder what she thinks about it. |
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Zem You can be civil without being flowery, dipshits. Level: 49 Posts: 369/1107 EXP: 829398 For next: 54485 Since: 06-13-04 Since last post: 131 days Last activity: 131 days |
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| "Sometimes I wonder what happened to the good ol' platformers I played when I was young. By today's standards, any good game has to involve sex, violence, or anything eyepopping just to get attention. It's kind of sad, actually." I heartily disagree. I would like to see examples of what are considered "good games" which rely on these things. Halo and its successor are not very violent at all compared to older first-person shooters... if they have a "hook" it's the unique gameplay, and apparently the plot. I guess you could point to the GTA games, but compared to movies (which, stylistically, they are most similar to) the games are relatively tame. Taking BMX XXX or The Guy Game or whatever and saying they are examples of why the game industry is corrupting itself is like looking at porn and saying the movie industry is going to shit. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 5175/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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...Wouldn't you be ABLE to rent Conker if it was an M (17+) game?  It sure as heck wasn't AO (18+).If stores are going to enforce the ratings, at least enforce them properly. |
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Karadur Fire Snake Level: 48 Posts: 83/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen I forgot to say why My Dad wouldn't let me rent it  He bought the N64, so it was his choice, pretty much. |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN  Posts: -3053/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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| I've actually been poking through my newest EGM (newest? yeah, right, they still have the two-month-old preview of Halo 2 in there, damn you Rite-aid) and "The Guy Game" got a lovely "Shame of the Month" sticker. Games like GTA: San Andreas don't appeal to me (and never will, I'm just not into that kind of thing) yet Doom II had me hooked for a while, and now UT has my attention. You can't forget that everything's being used up now, they're running a bit short on ideas (cough nintendo cough-- port hell ) and a few of my favorite games (Silent Hill 1, a few others) have deviated from what the original really grabbed on to and just pretty much ruined the series for me (Silent Hill 2 lacked the "holy fucking shit what was that" factor, SH3 (though I haven't played it and only read FAQ's and plot guides) seems to lack the deep understory and mystery (not to mention outdoor areas ) and Silent Hill 4 was a complete joke (afaik it didn't even go near Silent Hill, heh)(omg, I just realized something) Another good example is Tetris... look at all the damn rule changes! the original had one line = one line... with Tetris Worlds, it's now a tetris is 16 points or something, and you need 5, 10, 15, 20... points to go up a level, not 10 lines. Tetris Plus was worse; you could level up by sitting there. It was really something like a Level Up bar that would go up (slowly) on its own, with different lines making it go up (single would be about 1/10th, tetris would do 99/100  )I could go on but why? |
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