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Thauglor
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Posted on 11-12-04 08:27 AM Link
lol actually I'm just a starting out abstract artist.

I started using digital programs to create abstract pieces that invoke emotion and satisfaction in me... I don't got much, and it'll probabbly cause a few "WTF!!!!11"'s but that's part of being an abstract artist...

http://Thauglor.deviantart.com enjoy folks..


(edited by Hiryuu on 11-11-04 11:41 PM)
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Okay, so how -are- they thought provoking?
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http://www.deviantart.com/view/12097564/

Um... does this have -anything- to do with the comments you gave for it? o.o
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Originally posted by windwaker
http://www.deviantart.com/view/12097564/

Um... does this have -anything- to do with the comments you gave for it? o.o


*looks, copies in PSP5 quickly and doesn't save it*

Doesn't take much. Looks like a load of crap to me. (If i did it in PSP5 and quick, that can be done in paint easily as well!)
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Posted on 11-14-04 01:58 AM Link
Well there are critics.... if there weren't art wouldn't be fun. I ask you since when does the amount of effort put into it have to apply to whether or not it is art. I base my works off of the modern fine arts of today. Sure they may be simplistic, but it is the abstract that causes thought. For instance "VII" is a representation of how clean and perfect we all attempt to be. Though you may deny it, you are always striving to be better than your fellow man.

I guess I shouldn't have posted my artsy fartsy stuff in a gaming forum.. oh well serves me right... ciao
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Eeeeeeh?!

*head explodes*
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Posted on 11-14-04 11:54 PM Link
Originally posted by Thauglor
Well there are critics....I guess I shouldn't have posted my artsy fartsy stuff in a gaming forum.. oh well serves me right... ciao


Well at least there's one thing right about that whole post of yours. You'd be surprised at how many people on this forum that are presenting better art than you currently (of which at least one has already posted in this thread).

Abstract art is one thing, but too abstract is another. If no one gets it, then, besides you, what's the point. If you're doing it just for you, it's selfish art.

And quite honestly they could be construed as a color ink blot test. I just think you could've put a little more effort into it.
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Posted on 11-15-04 02:33 PM Link
Originally posted by Hiryuu
Abstract art is one thing, but too abstract is another. If no one gets it, then, besides you, what's the point. If you're doing it just for you, it's selfish art.


son, he's right you know: you better stop being selfish before you pick up the pen or mouse and think about what the other 6 billion people in this world will think about your art before you selfishly make something that you enjoy.

pandering to other's perceptions of what constitutes "good art" instead of creating something that you enjoy and can identify with (taken from yourself or another object/ideal that intrigues/repulses; forces emotion) would seem to go against the very nature of "art". You don't seem to know much about this subject, Hiryuu.

And you never know, maybe these pictures are in themselves the true art by defying convential styles and challenging more complex creations (although not bloody likely, no offense)


(edited by Gavin on 11-15-04 05:53 AM)
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Posted on 11-16-04 12:20 AM Link
#~!!~#
This is art. If you question my efforts, you are wrong and were probably raised by goats and roosters.

I'm not commenting on the sincerity of Thougdor's art, Gavin, but do you see the point I'm getting at? If someone posts a circle with some lines and states up front that those who do not appreciate it have no taste, of course there will be reaction. By mocking Hiryuu for critisizing, you are eliminates the whole purpose of this forum; feedback from artwork. He does not have to listen to what others want to see, nor does he have to ask for their response.

I know you're well aware of this already, and your history of posting in this forum strongly suggests that the only purpose of your post is to target Hiryuu specifically and be an asshole..
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Posted on 11-16-04 07:25 AM Link
I think its pretty cool, not my kind of art, but it is pretty cool...I never really liked abstract art...
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Posted on 11-16-04 01:42 PM Link
Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
I'm not commenting on the sincerity of Thougdor's art, Gavin...


A)
Well, shouldn't you be? This is an art forum (unless i have untreated cataracts, in which case i apologize). Your above post constitutes as spam logically following your own definition of it. Why are you spamming? Why do you h8?

Originally posted by Yoshi Dude

If someone posts a circle with some lines and states up front that those who do not appreciate it have no taste, of course there will be reaction.


B)
Show me the exact sentance/phrase/comment in which Thougdor stated "up front" that those who did not appreciate his art had no taste, that then warrented said "reaction".

Originally posted by Yoshi Dude

By mocking Hiryuu for critisizing, you are eliminates the whole purpose of this forum; feedback from artwork. He does not have to listen to what others want to see, nor does he have to ask for their response.


C)
i was illustrating how absurd Hiryuu's comment is by putting it in more simplistic terms. I wasn't attacking him for critisizing, merely commenting on his perception of art. I didn't realize we weren't allowed to talk about art in an art forum, how silly of me. and furthermore, why are you critisizing my critisizing?

Originally posted by Yoshi Dude

I know you're well aware of this already, and your history of posting in this forum strongly suggests that the only purpose of your post is to target Hiryuu specifically and be an asshole..


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"posting history" <== haha, okay okay, I suppose i'll leave this one alone as comedy is a very complex artform. But really, you do have a special artistic talent, being able to make me laugh like that. And not only are you hilarious, but you're dead wrong: the object of my post was to point out the apparent absurdity of Hiryuu's comment.

And i'd really apprecaite it if you didn't call me an asshole, and if you could kindly
refrain from calling me an asshole in the future. it's just like, you know, common curtesy. Do they have curtesy is Brazil?

I point out that art should stem from something more emotional than a statisical mean of the world's citizen's idea of beauty and all of the sudden i'm a maniacle renegade poster attacking defenseless old housewives with bats? haha, okay whateve.

I discuss the merits of art, and cymoro posts this:
Originally posted by Cymoro
omg im sooooogud at using pailt lolzors


and you complain about me mocking someone?

haha, once again, you're comedic value is worth it's weight in at least copper. be proud.
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Posted on 11-16-04 07:36 PM Link
I'm not going to respond to all that, for I do not have an hour to bold things and twist everything you say, but I would like to point out that complaining about Hiryuu's reaction is not art. You're not critisizing, you're bitching. You follow Hiryuu and bitch. That's the point.
I'm also not from Brazil, but pointing that out regardless pretty much proves your intentions in this thread.
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Posted on 11-16-04 10:12 PM Link
wow, who would have though this kind of art would make this thread go in an uproar...its not the best, but its still something....and he did say he was just starting out...so give Thauglor a break,


(edited by Dcahrakos on 11-16-04 01:14 PM)
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Posted on 11-17-04 12:30 AM Link
Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
I'm not going to respond to all that


probably because you can't.

Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
for I do not have an hour to bold things and twist everything you say


if it takes you an hour you must be a lot more incompetent than i had originally thought. And which part exactly did i twist? I addressed every single thing you said in full. You're just mad because you can't effectively argue, and the reason you can't effectively argue is because you are wrong.

Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
but I would like to point out that complaining about Hiryuu's reaction is not art. You're not critisizing, you're bitching. You follow Hiryuu and bitch. That's the point.


i never stated that my analysis of Hiryuu's statement was art and i have no idea where that came from. Okay, if i'm bitching then you're just plain and simple a bitch. That's the point. And please (unless you don't have the time because i'm sure you're a very busy person) do a tally and check the percentage of my posts addressing/conscerning Hiryuu to my total posts and tell me what that shows you, yet i "follow him around". sure, whatever.

Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
I'm also not from Brazil, but pointing that out regardless pretty much proves your intentions in this thread.


oh really? I was hoping, for your sake, that you were. I was hoping that it was a cultural not intellectual barrier that was keeping us from being friends, but i guess not. Prove my intentions in the thread? Sweatheart you're giving me too much credit, all i did was basically say "Hiryuu, i disagree with what you said" in a way that you seem not to like for whatever reason. Furthermore, i still have no idea why i'm even talking to you. I never addressed you, yet you continue to speak to me as if i care.. interesting..

And in closing, i've already asked you previously when you have jumped down my throat and wasted posts by going offtopic to address any issues you have with me in a PM. Not that i know him, but Thauglor (or any other board member for that matter) doesn't deserve to have his threads desecrated with your presence.

have a good day, please don't die.
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Posted on 11-17-04 03:34 AM Link
Thanks for killing a thread, Gavin. Least I know you're good for something.

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