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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 518/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm "Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation"  |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 2786/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| WELLLLLLLLL WELLLLLLLLLL WELLLLLLLLLLLLL! Look what we have here.  |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 4835/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Oh, what the fuck? Did they have to be involved aswell?  |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 521/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| It actually makes a lot of sense. Russia does give aide to quite a bit of countries is Euro-Asia. According to some sources I have read, Saddam had WMD's during the Gulf War (Not Nuclear but gasses). It would also explain why UN inspecters were denied access to various sites through out the 90's and early 2000's. Hell polications from America (both sides) and Europe was saying they thought Saddam had them and was starting to develop nuclear techonolgy. I also heard several times back in 2002, very early 2003 that we had found factories. Meh. Either way, I been saying he had them since we wrote a paper on it for History class after Clinton ordered bombings in Iraq (Which was 1998 I believe). |
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Jarukoth  IRRATIONAL EXUBERENCE!!1! Level: 79  Posts: 2013/3194 EXP: 4402011 For next: 177456 Since: 03-17-04 From: New Jersey, U.S.A. Shoes: Yes. Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Meh, I'm not so shocked. I always figured he got rid of them beforehand. But the Russians? Didn't see that coming. Hopefully, this will make a whole bunch of people shut up. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2788/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Yeah, it's not shocking at all really. Anyone with half a brain knew Sadaam had them. It's just when they found nothing there, it gave all the anti-Bush people another reason to jump on him for it. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5790/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Actually, I honestly thought that they destroyed them. But moving it to russia... |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 436/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| Um, old news. This is about the 380 tons of missing explosives or whatever, no? It was subsequently proven that those explosives were there after we invaded Iraq, and that... they're not now. No one knows why, I guess, but it wasn't Russia's fault. | |||
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 4843/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Legion In other words: The Russians are anti-Bush aswell? The Russians are crazy about weapons...  |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2790/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Um, Neko? Russia isn't exactly our greatest fan. :/ | |||
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5803/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Well, did Russia get any money for doing this? Russia have big ecomincal problems, thanks to Stalin his friends. Which everyone should know why. I know for sure that Sweden have good relation with Russia, have the relation between US and Russia got worse? This is not gonna help obviously...  |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2794/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Russia hates us most for Rocky IV. | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 1602/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Kitten Yiffer, Russia's economic sadness is due to Nikita Krushev and his friends. And since the monumentalism that they attempted to create fell flat on its ass, the Soviet Union had been in economic recoil up until its collapse, hence why Russia isn't exactly A-class material for the G7/8 (which is it right now?). And as for the article, this is called speculation. Remember a good HALF of the world benefited from Iraq purchasing weapons. Ukraine was making a killing selling off new age radar. The Russians sold planes, tanks, whatever Iraq wanted. Not really out of anti-Americanism but more out of the fact that they are starving and collapsed and corrupt nations. I really doubt that Russia had the money for a deployment of special forces, and besides they weren't breaking any treaties that they ratified, they may be on the security council but on Arabic issues they tend to be silent and vote against, but never veto. Really, who gives a hell if Russia sold off some overstocked and broken SCUDS a few T-80s and a few broken Hinds or MiGs? Russia is a nation that has a broken economy and one damned good way of making money is selling useless old junk to idiots who buy it. Now, if they were to sell SU planes, T-90/95 tanks and things along those lines, that would send shivers down my spine. They are just as effective as their Western counter-parts. |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 1688/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| So Ziff, are you basically saying that the war still isn't justified, which everyone seems to say it is? I don't care what an article says. We went over there to stop WMD and these don't look like WMD. Of course I could be blind, not sure. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1605/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Dracoon The war was never justified. And I will stand by that. No one says it was. There were no magical Al-Qaeda cells, there were no chemical weapons, no nuclear program, no biological weapons labs. The SCUD missles were in disrepair. Iraq was in shambles by comparison to its military power at the beginning of the Gulf War. Hell, the government was at least stable. It would've only been a few years and few strings pulled to pacify Saddam and bring up the standard of living. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 2340/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Dracoon WTF have you been smokin? If everyone thought the war was justified, then Kerry would have only had 2% of the popular vote. The biggest dividing issue between the parties was the justification of the war in Iraq. Have you kept up with current events in the last 3 years? The war still isn't justified, for it never was. The current situtation in Iraq reeks of White Man's Burden (if you don't know what that is, look it up. Then compare it to our taking over their culture and forcing democracy on them right now). So much evidence indicates it wasn't and still isn't justified, including everything Ziff just said. So, why exactly do you think that "everyone seems to say the war in Iraq is justified"? |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 4857/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Legion They |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84 Posts: 1690/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Dracoon Sorry, I didn't quite finish what I ment, but people around my school and places keep saying this justified the war. Of course, they are as arrogant as me and that tends to be a problem. (edited by Dracoon on 11-05-04 09:05 AM) |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2803/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Neko, I hearby permaban you from replying from any to my posts ever again. | |||
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5818/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by Millennium NekoOriginally posted by Legion |
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