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Link2004 Bit Level: 25 Posts: 64/254 EXP: 85703 For next: 3917 Since: 08-11-04 From: Lost Woods Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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After a long look at hints for SMW hackers, I realise that I rushed my hacks out before going through them throughly, checking for bugs and gliches before I send them out. Well, I went over this game 6 times, and it's just the way I want it. It's a revise of my first hack with new enemies, a better storyline, and Luigi's SSB fireballs. I did the best I can with what I had and what I know, so its up to you guys to criticize my game's backgrounds, rain, and overworld without even playing the hack. I worked real hard to make this game enjoyabe, so I hope everyone have fun playing this hack. Click on "Zelda 4 Life, nothing less" to go to my site and click on hacks. |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 780/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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1. Luigi looks odd for some reason. Shorter than usual? Aanyway, the BG looks good but the FG, not so much. The platform is a pink color, the SMB3 blocks need to be blue or something (just change them), and the flower is messed up. 2. This doesn't look like the same hack. The status bar has changed, mario has chaned to pink, and the blocks mario is standing on dont really look that great. The BG however is VERY cool! 3. Blocks dont look good and luigi looks dark with no shading 4. Why have those transparent blocks? get rid of them. everything else is good as long as yoshis tounge doesn't mess up because of the castle sprites. 5. Tthis is only the 4th hack I have seen with changed OW boarder graphics (including mine) good job. However, the START square needs some palette help. Make it use the same palette as the mushroom that you have behind the cloud. The overworld is a bit square aswell. But other than that it looks good! 6. Oh god, please change charging chucks head. It doesn't look that great. Fix this stuff and it will be MUCH better. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 1935/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Cool. WTF? Nice BG though. BG's too bright, and what's with the treasure chests? Dunno what you did but it's painful. The Start and level tiles look out of place, and the border is just weird. What the hex did you do to Chuck and the coins? And turn that damn clock off. (edited by HyperHacker on 11-01-04 04:41 PM) |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68 Posts: 818/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Looks pretty good. However, why did you change "TIME" into a clock? :/ Also, the platform's palette isn't the best. The item box frame have got a different color. Are those chests used ? blocks? It's not looking good anyway... Nothing special here. Nonono! Too hard to see anything. Border: WTF? The squarity of the island: WTF? Start colors: WTF? The fact that it says T on the "level card" instead of the level number: WTF? CC's head: Crap Luigi's fireball's color: Crap Yoshi coin: WTF? The clock at the bottom right corner: AMAZING! Is that an ASM hack? |
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Link2004 Bit Level: 25 Posts: 65/254 EXP: 85703 For next: 3917 Since: 08-11-04 From: Lost Woods Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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I'm not changing or going to change anything and i'll tell you why, You only judged the screenshots and didn't even play the hack. The chests are cool, I'm tired of the same ? blocks in every hack. The status bar clock is a good change instead of TIME. Chucks heads is funny, it wasn't supposed to be professional. Changing things is NOT easy.The rain looks good WHEN YOU PLAY THE HACK. I don't know how to make a screenshot of rain look nice for everyone. Everyone got ripped BG and FG in thier hack, I don't. I don't know how to change my fireball the green color I wanted without screwing up something else. and I don't know how to change the color of the platforms. I wanted something different than the same lameass "Mario save the princess" hack. Luigi's colors are from SSBM and they look GOOD. It's funny because when I play my hacks in front of people in school, in the library, or at home with my friends, they were blown away with my graphics, level layout, and Luigi's fireballs, and they play SMW just as much as everyone here. BUT, when I show and share my hacks to this board I get this: "The item box frame have got a different color. Are those chests used ? blocks? It's not looking good anyway..." "The Start and level tiles look out of place, and the border is just weird" "What the hex did you do to Chuck and the coins? And turn that damn clock off" "Luigi looks odd for some reason. Shorter than usual? Aanyway, the BG looks good but the FG, not so much. The platform is a pink color, the SMB3 blocks need to be blue or something (just change them), and the flower is messed up" Don't worry about it though. I won't post my hacks here anymore. People expect too much out of you here, espacially from my 1st hack. No one wants to help, though everyone wants to quickly criticise everything. It got aggervating, but I finished my game perfectly the way I wanted it not what everyone else want. I worked TOO DAMN HARD on this hack for it to be criticised just by my stupid screenshots. So have fun criticizing. |
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cpubasic13 17 years old now. Time to buy some M rated games by myself! Level: 54 Posts: 707/1346 EXP: 1206934 For next: 26936 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blame my parents, Eddy Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Link2004 First off, not many people know you can do this. You could simply change one level and people will be amazed. They don't know you can do this, but all of us here know about all this stuff. Don't think that because your friends and stuff like it doesn't mean us (who most of us have been hacking longer than you) will like it. Second, this is not you first hack. I believe you have released another hack before (correct me if I am wrong). Judging by the screenshots, some to me seem fake. I am mainly pointing at the second and last screenshots. It is not possible to change layer 3 graphics for every level. Although I have yet to play this, I will play it. In fact, I will download this now and tell you what I think of it. *downloads* |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 823/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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drama....drama. No one said oyur hack sucked, they were nice about their comments. If you aren't willing to let people tell you where to improve for next time around, then maybe you don't have any buisnes posting your hacks after all. | |||
Aioria Boss Bass Yes I will!! ;D Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 1177/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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@luigi: No-one here posts comments to bash or offend you, it is just to help you improve your skills. You should have the enough maturity to accept what's being said and requested that you fix in your instead of feeling offended by our criticism. I wouldn't feel secure on releasing my hacks before hearing enough criticism pointing what i did wrong and what i should improve. People have to have enough humbleness to accept criticism on what they did wrong and try to fix their mistakes. |
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Xkeeper 2.0 Hammer Brother Again... :P Level: 49 Posts: 157/1091 EXP: 880818 For next: 3065 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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NICE. Platform isn't great, but I'm the one mixing SMAS FG and SMW BG... Chests: Good. Only problem, it looks odd floating. But if mushrooms double your height and Yoshi can eat endlessly, ANYTHING goes. Not good OR bad. Nice idea, you should reduce the number of raindrops though. Still good. I sucked at OWs once too. This is okay for a newbie. See the 3rd comment. The head... lmao! I'm not changing or going to change anything and i'll tell you why, You only judged the screenshots and didn't even play the hack. The screens can tell if a hack is worthwhile. I play each hack, however. IMO this was fun. The chests are cool, I'm tired of the same ? blocks in every hack. The status bar clock is a good change instead of TIME. I agree here. I did this myself in one hack. Chucks heads is funny, it wasn't supposed to be professional. Changing things is NOT easy. Opinion... The rain looks good WHEN YOU PLAY THE HACK. I don't know how to make a screenshot of rain look nice for everyone. Well... most of us don't see THAT MUCH rain usually. :-\ Everyone got ripped BG and FG in thier hack, I don't. I don't know how to change my fireball the green color I wanted without screwing up something else. and I don't know how to change the color of the platforms. ExGFX or pal. hacks. I wanted something different than the same lameass "Mario save the princess" hack. Luigi's colors are from SSBM and they look GOOD. It's funny because when I play my hacks in front of people in school, in the library, or at home with my friends, they were blown away with my graphics, level layout, and Luigi's fireballs, and they play SMW just as much as everyone here. BUT, when I show and share my hacks to this board I get this: "The item box frame have got a different color. Are those chests used ? blocks? It's not looking good anyway..." "The Start and level tiles look out of place, and the border is just weird" "What the hex did you do to Chuck and the coins? And turn that damn clock off" "Luigi looks odd for some reason. Shorter than usual? Aanyway, the BG looks good but the FG, not so much. The platform is a pink color, the SMB3 blocks need to be blue or something (just change them), and the flower is messed up" The flower is messed up, but I like good levels. Don't worry about it though. I won't post my hacks here anymore. ...You WILL get better with time, like Chris. People expect too much out of you here, espacially from my 1st hack. No one wants to help, though everyone wants to quickly criticise everything. It got aggervating, but I finished my game perfectly the way I wanted it not what everyone else want. I worked TOO DAMN HARD on this hack for it to be criticised just by my stupid screenshots. So have fun criticizing. You have to take it less personally... < |
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Ringodoggie Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 132/281 EXP: 114340 For next: 1819 Since: 03-23-04 From: London, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 27 days Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Link2004 Pics: 1. Cool thwomp. The colours on the blocks, moving platform, and flower don't look right. 2. Problem with shading on the mushroom. 3. Nothing wrong. 4. Get rid of the rain. 5. Basic colours on Luigi on the map. 6. What's with Chuck's head? |
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KP9000 Flurry Level: 27 Posts: 188/261 EXP: 102741 For next: 13418 Since: 03-18-04 From: Wherever you saw me last... Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by skateboarder11 I know exactly what you mean. My hack was just like yours but worse because I just wanted to release it. Nobody even remembers my hack. I took it hard, and then I joined another board. This is a great board that cares about the individual and tries to help and work with them as opposed to criticism and put-downs. If you want the address for this board, PM me and we will welcome you.
What I suggest for this is make an animated .GIF for each frame of the animation to show the skeptics exactly what you wanted to show them in that screenshot, because unfortunately, they judge by what they see, not how the hack plays. Also, here is what I suggest with the treasure blocks: Keep the original question blocks, but also keep the treasure boxes. Put them on the floor or underneath something so that they cannot be hit from underneath, and also because it looks better when sitting on something. That way they can be hit from the side from Luigi's cape or by an enemy. I hope this helps you! (edited by KP9000 on 11-01-04 11:31 PM) |
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Karadur Fire Snake Level: 48 Posts: 2/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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I've played this hack up to Desert Island 3, and I've liked it so far. I have some comments to make though. On the overworld. The top right and top left edges of Desert Island look weird, also on that island, the whole thing looks awkward with all the blank spaces filled up with hills. On the islands that hold Seaside Path 2 and 3, the edges of the island that connect to the bridge look odd. You could take the right facing arrow path and move it over to the left one space, but unless you moved the right island over a bit more, nothing can really be done with it. The portion of the brown hill connecting Mysterious Woods' island to Desert Island looks out of place. It would look less awkward to replace that bit with a bridge as well. Other than that, the overworld looks fine. I have one question though: what's the bit of bridge in the upper-right of the overworld for? Comments on the screenshots: 1) The palette of those 4 blocks looks weird. The moving platform looks alright in this level, since it's against a dark background, but when it appears on other levels, it looks pink and ugly 2) Two things here: with the chests. I like the idea, but they just look funny floating in the air In the status bar, there's an 'L' instead of 'Luigi'. Something from an earlier version? 3) Even if you make the background only slightly tinted, it'll look better. The white color takes up too much of the screen. 4) I've played levels already with rain in them, and they look alright. I don't think I've played this level yet, but the screenshot makes it look bad. I agree with KP9000's advice. Make an animated .gif to show what the level looks like while active. I like the idea here of having 'windows' in the castle. 5) What does the 'T' stand for? I could see it having an 'S' for 'Start', but 'T' makes no sense 6) The 'T' has returned in the Yoshi Coins. Is there some hidden thing in the credits that tells you what it means? Other than that, things look good One last question. There's a few levels with those bird enemies you can jump and get a ride on. What sprite do they replace, or is it custom made? |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 2549/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Meh, I don't see what you people are whining about. The people judge based on screenshots, yes. If the screenshots are good enough they play the hack. This is why you present what looks best that still looks good as a still image. Since a new hack comes out every week or so, we don't have time to play every one and will go by screenshots, which makes making good screenshots important. I look at your screenshots and I see things that look poor, so I don't play your hack. You criticize me for judging things I haven't played, but I don't have the time to play everything and only want to play the really good things. | |||
Link2004 Bit Level: 25 Posts: 67/254 EXP: 85703 For next: 3917 Since: 08-11-04 From: Lost Woods Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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2) Two things here: with the chests. I like the idea, but they just look funny floating in the air In the status bar, there's an 'L' instead of 'Luigi'. Something from an earlier version? It was supposed to be the 2nd player,But I turned my game into a 1 player with that patch. 5) What does the 'T' stand for? I could see it having an 'S' for 'Start', but 'T' makes no sense T stands for my name. I liked it Other than that, things look good One last question. There's a few levels with those bird enemies you can jump and get a ride on. What sprite do they replace, or is it custom made? There Monty moles i changed to those birds on SMB 2 If you think about it, really hard, its a Mario game, in a mario game, blocks float in the air, wierd things happen in a mario game. so i still don't see anything wrong with the chests. I'm not trying to take this stuff personal, or create drama. This is the only site I can share my fun with SMW. but I'm done for a while, I'm tired and I'm going to bed. ....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......... |
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Dark Ludwig Red Paratroopa Level: 21 Posts: 20/172 EXP: 45740 For next: 4203 Since: 09-17-04 From: Georgia Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Now I might have longer descriptions than everyone else, but it's all for the better if you take heed, now. Ahem.Originally posted by Link2004And I know this was a lengthy review, but I wanted the hack to be improved. If you would like, you could e-mail the unlocked versoin of the hack to me (IPS, of course.) if you want me to touch up the levels and fix graphics and all, and I could sent it back for your evaluation. I assure you now, that I wouldn't steal graphics from your hack for use in my hack, steal levels, or overworld, or anything for that matter if you want me to touch up your hack. My e-mail is swilder@mchsi.com. So, that's about it. Hope this all helps! DarkLudwig. |
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gnkkwinrrul Dry Bones Level: 39 Posts: 403/647 EXP: 402054 For next: 2717 Since: 03-15-04 From: LYKEOMGIMFROMSOMEPLACE???? Since last post: 81 days Last activity: 40 days |
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Okay...I may have to hurt myself for your crappy charging chuck...looks to me like the fire chain head from SMB 3 Otherwise, you need work on pallettes, and not much else | |||
iamhiro1112 Armos Level: 35 Posts: 103/487 EXP: 259927 For next: 20009 Since: 03-27-04 From: sd Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 7 days |
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I personaly dont mind the worlds being square like that, after all it looks like the world is modeled after SMB3 (Start and level panels) That was exactly how they did it in SMB3. | |||
Link2004 Bit Level: 25 Posts: 68/254 EXP: 85703 For next: 3917 Since: 08-11-04 From: Lost Woods Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Well, I fixed the graphics people wanted change, I hope this is to your liking: Mushroom,block, and coins are changed Fire Flower has depth in it The all popular Chargin chuck head is finally changed back. If someone tells me how to change Luigi's fireball pallette green without fucking up other colors, that will be real great. Sorry abut my rudeness and anger yesterday... |
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Golden Yoshi Pokey Level: 41 Posts: 282/693 EXP: 445575 For next: 34570 Since: 03-15-04 From: Edison, NJ Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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The question blocks and coins are looking good. The mushroom looks nice too, but I recommend placing a black outline around the mushroom so it looks more "full". Nice fire flower, but the block on the right has a weird color. A good idea for that would be to go into the 16x16 editor and tinker with the palettes the block uses until you find a nicer one. Goomba looks okay. |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 789/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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This is MUCH better! Your mushroom is very cool, I haven't seen the NES SMB1 mushroom used before, good job. The blocks are 100% better. I have never been a fan of them but you can't please everyone (they still look very good). Flower looks better, chuck looks better, goomba looks quite cool, even the item box looks better (its not missing a line of pixels at the bottom any more). However, the only things I can see not so good with these new shots is the pirana plant mouth and the block in the second shot. The pirana plants look really cool, but the mouth has to much black outline. Tthis is really alot better. See everyone needs some criticts to make their stuff look better. |
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