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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 1090/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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| I've never seen any other industry where free goodies mattered so much in something that should be fairly objective. No need to convince me otherwise, I've given up on them unless they use pretty big pictures or give me stuff that's worth buying their magazine as toiletlecture. |
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cpubasic13 17 years old now. Time to buy some M rated games by myself! Level: 54  Posts: 682/1346 EXP: 1206934 For next: 26936 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blame my parents, Eddy Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| You know why Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door got a 6? It is a Nintendo product, and to some people Nintendo makes kids games. Sure you have a character that is a plumber who eats mushrooms and stops reptiles, but the thing is that is fun. I have played Ratchet and Clank (the first one) and the thing that I liked about that game was its humor. The gameplay was fun at first, but then started to get repetitive... in my opinion, of course. See, these reviewers think Nintendo just makes kids games because of Pokemon. Once that game was released, Nintendo has been getting a bad reputation. So Nintendo made a more kid oriented game? Big deal. They made money and the Pokemon series is an original idea that probably nobody could have thought of. Don't say Digimon because that was just a knock-off of Pokemon, just with Digi in the front. PS2, in my opinion, is just a bunch of sequels after sequels after sequels. They think "If it ain't bad, why improve it?" X-Box wouldn't have even made it this far if it weren't for Halo. But why is Nintendo still making games? Because of two reasons: 1) They generally own the handheld gaming industry, and 2) They make games that are fun for not just one group of audiences, but for everyone. That is why people are biased against Nintendo games. They hate the fact that there are no ultra-realistic blood-spewing gun-blasting foul-mouthed games made by Nintendo (except Conker's Bad Fur Day... possibly Metroid Prime). I have a Gamepro magazine that has a review of Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Stike. I have seen really good reviews of this game but Gamepro brought down the rating because of the Gamecube controller. That is just stupid. Other games from Gamecube also had that same problem... Paper Mario needs a better score. It is good, original, and different. Just because the graphics aren't realistic or it isn't gun shooting oriented doesn't mean it is bad. These reviewers need to review just that game, not compare it to other games. Sure it isn't Halo, but who gives a crap about that old game?* Final Verdict: Game reviewers are biased. Most people turn their attention away from Nintendo games because of the characters, but without these characters, what characters would there be? Sonic would not exist if it weren't for Mario. Master Cheif wouldn't even be thought of without Samus. High-speed future racing games would not be made without F-ZERO. So are we better off without Nintendo? No. Without Nintendo, the gaming industry would not exist today and if it did, video games wouldn't be good. Yes, I am biased. Who here isn't? Nobody. You will see biased people and opinions all the time. There is nothing you can do to stop it. *I like Halo, yes, but it is old and if you are still thinking it is the best game ever, please do not review other games. You will just hate other games for this reason. |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 1132/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Well said, fellow. Here's an addendum: Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando was indeed an excellent game. Perhaps it's the predecessors that do the successors justice? As I recall, the first Paper Mario game, despite being inventive and funny, did not get good reviews or reasonably good sales, which may have turned reviewers off from the sequel. Regardless, I have played both of the predecessors to these two contested games, and because of them I intend to play both of the successors. If you think the first game is good, you're expecting the second one to be just as good, if not better, right? Well, I loved both Ratchet and Clank and Paper Mario. And Game Informer hated the first Paper Mario, but loved Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando. I want to play both of the new games, they wanted only to play Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal. That makes my point all the more boldened, right? I stopped actually reading the reviews for Game Informer three years ago, when they started hating Megaman. I get it for the previews and the news section now, because I'm too lazy to check Gamespy or IGN or any of those other internet sources. And I LIKED Conker's Bad Fur Day, it was the last good Rare game. The fact is, Nintendo may not always make children's games, but they do exude a kiddie look, and I think they do it intentionally. Think about it! Nintendo won the hearts of older gamers in 1985, when those gamers were kids. They're playing for a new audience right now, they're playing for the youths of the world that are the offspring of the gamers of the 80s and 90s. Someday people are going to look back on Super Smash Brothers Melee with the fondness that we see in The Legend of Zelda and River City Ransom (well, that I see anyway, you're all entitled to your own opinions). There will be billions of sequels, and nobody will remember the old old games, claiming that PS2 and Gamecube are ancient systems, and shaking their heads in disbelief at the very mention of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Pokemon will go through its Silicon and Lead versions, Conker's gonna get Liver Poisoning, Mario's gonna take up chain smoking, and a new generation of characters will run circles around Sonic the Hedgehog. All the while, other companies are going to be trying to make their characters accessible to older audiences, adding more and more blood while Nintendo makes a fortune off of children. It's genius. It's sheer marketing genius. Nintendo literally holds the future of gaming in the palm of their hands, and they probably don't even know it yet. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 1534/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The demographic has shifted. Focusing on the 18+ categories will create more $$$ for any company. That idea would've been beautiful, back when Nintendo was still king, because it worked. Sadly, due to shfiting times, those kids have grown up and fondly look at the good old days, but then buy X-Box or PS2 and play the new games. Marketing for kids brings in lots of money, yes, because Sony and Microsoft aren't touching those fields with a 4000000 foot pole with their ideas. Nintendo isn't going anywhere, they have kids cornered with their product. And face it, I've yet to meet a single kid who hates Mario  |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 4754/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Paper Mario actually did sell over a million copies despite being released near the end of the N64's run. Just wanted to throw that in.  |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1536/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen And it got good reviews everywhere. A 9.5 in EGM and Gamespot loved it. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 708/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| Be suspicious period. If you can buy off lots of reviewers with , say, $50,000 or so, and you can make $1,000,000 instead of $200,000, who wouldn't pay people off. I don't trust reviewers usually. If I'm going to buy a game i first go on Gamefaqs or some other site with ratings, and I find the lowest ratings possible. Chances are if they found the game that annoying, I might notice the same things. Edit: What I meant was I'd go read their reviews and see what they found to be a problem with the game. (edited by MathOnNapkins on 10-25-04 02:15 AM) |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 461/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| I don't read reviews for the ratings. If I see a game I'm interesting in, I'll read the review. If someone gives it a 3 of 10 and the review only seems to be bais against the camera angle or/and the graphics, I'll probably pick it up. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 4766/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I really doubt that companies throw around $50,000 to buy reviews.  Maybe in extreme cases but it's probably one of those "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" thing - for example, maybe if a magazine gives a game a good review, they might get an exclusive look at the sequel.  |
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oniblade Leever Level: 23  Posts: 113/183 EXP: 58805 For next: 8918 Since: 04-17-04 From: Idaho Since last post: 274 days Last activity: 273 days |
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| well the new paper mario was underrated, but its not as good as paper mario | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 2485/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I would actually say it's much better. Also, not to sound rude, but it's hard to take your opinion seriously when, due to the lack of a period, your post isn't even one sentence long. | |||
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Zem You can be civil without being flowery, dipshits. Level: 49 Posts: 245/1107 EXP: 829398 For next: 54485 Since: 06-13-04 Since last post: 131 days Last activity: 131 days |
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| Backing up a little, re: "It is a Nintendo product, and to some people Nintendo makes kids games." GI gave Pikmin 2 "game of the month" when that came out. So that's not it. |
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