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Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Chat - Should Columbus be celebrated in a holiday? | | | |
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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79 Posts: 1584/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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October 11th is coming up, and that's Columbus day. You may not be aware of this because a) You don't live in America b) You have to go to school/work anyway c) You generally never know what day of the week it is My English teacher questioned us about how we feel about that day, if it should be celebrated or not. In fact, we have to come up with a persuasive essay to either be for or against it. The challenge is actually caring about it, but it got me thinking, there are native americans against it (look up the story of Columbus if you don't know anything beyond paper hats from kindergarten, you'll see what I mean). But there are arguments for keeping the holiday that, although he was a morally corrupt man and wasn't even the first in America, it was his landing there that changed the world forever. What do you guys think? |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85 Posts: 1207/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Yes. Because I live in his namesake town. That's a legitimate reason. Shut up. | |||
hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38 Posts: 368/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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It should only be if you believe in blind patriotism. Columbus did some pretty damn terrible things, and as such is by no means a praiseworthy character. However, if you abstract him into some mythical "ideal Columbus", then sure.. give him a holiday and make all the lies you want about him. Kinda like how they did with Jesus. | |||
KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86 Posts: 2006/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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In my own opinion... Ive never really thought it was much of a reason to have a holiday, but meh. People want to celebrate, go ahead. I usually just take the day off to hang out |
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Valcion YOU WA SHOCK Level: 50 Posts: 576/1139 EXP: 939607 For next: 7710 Since: 03-15-04 From: internets. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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i don't give a shit. it gives me a day off, so i'm happy. | |||
Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL Level: 67 Posts: 1345/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Valcion Quoted because that's what I was going to say, you telepathic bastard. |
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Eisiger Micro-Goomba Level: 7 Posts: 15/15 EXP: 1250 For next: 198 Since: 07-26-04 From: Florida, Land of the Cancer Inducing Aroma Since last post: 391 days Last activity: 339 days |
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I don't think Columbus Hebblethwaite deserves a holiday! | |||
Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 4471/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Columbus Day is just an excuse to give Americans off because they complain about Canada having that day off due to Thanksgiving. Yet when it's time for your Thanksgiving we don't do crap. |
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54 Posts: 992/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen WHAT?! I get to eat turkey and enjoy it. That's doing something. Something delicious. |
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Jarukoth IRRATIONAL EXUBERENCE!!1! Level: 79 Posts: 1912/3194 EXP: 4402011 For next: 177456 Since: 03-17-04 From: New Jersey, U.S.A. Shoes: Yes. Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 1 day |
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The only real reason I enjoy Columbus Day is because it's my best friend's birthday. Screw Columbus. He seems to be WAY overhyped. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2612/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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But then again, you guys having Boxing Day. | |||
Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54 Posts: 994/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by LegionYes, but Boxing Day is during the Christmas holiday, so it's not like its an extra day off. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2614/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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So? It's still a "special" day. And not all of us Americans get Columbus Day off. Just some. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 4477/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Boxing Day is "have a bunch of Christmas decorations/items at 50% off and toss in a few extra sales that translate into one-hour waits at the cash" day. | |||
Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79 Posts: 1586/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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It doesn't matter if you want a day off, I'm asking about the actual meaning of the holiday, how we consider Columbus to be a hero. And as Leg pointed out, many are not affected by it. I would imagine it's a bigger deal on the east coast. | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1418/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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You should honour the Vikings over Columbus. A) They landed on North America first B) They're not uncool C) Vikings greater than Italian exploders anyday. Or even the proof that Scottish monks landed here before Columbus is irrefutable. Columbus was a wuss compared to Vikings, or even drunken Scotsmen. Who would you rather have a holiday for? Badass conquerors or some sissy that came over on a boat called the Santa Maria. It couldn't have been something cool, like the Santa Claus, nope, Santa Maria. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 177/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Yeah his character was questionable, but he did find this place. The Vikings didn't stay as I recall. So while Columbus wasn't a great guy, he more or less founded this place. As for the holiday, I guess sure. It's not the first time questional characters are recognized. Look at some of the US Presidents, including the current one. Originally posted by NSNick
Nice excuse you have there. That's like choosing movie theater A over B because you live on the same street as A, even though B is across the street. You should chill out, Yoshi was asking for a legit discussion, no need to rant about it. That's my two cents on it. |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 416/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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No. Wasn't the first to land in the "New World". Vikings landed in Canada, Chinese are said to have landed in California, Africans in South America, Irish and Scots in America. Knew he wasn't in the East Indies. Killed lots of Natives Bought natives back to Europe as trophies Was given a retarded American name because America sucks like that. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2617/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Ziffski D) Because they would have beaten the shit out of Columbus and his rag-tag crew had they ever waged in a battle. E) Because they're cooler than pirates or ninjas will EVER be. (That's right, I said ninjas you otaku fucks.) F) Lost Vikings for Snes kicked ass. G) Their ships were a lot more bad ass than Columbus' "boats". |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 4118/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Vikings here, vikings there... Anyway, Columbus was a great man. Maybe he should be celebrated, I din |
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