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Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Super Mario World hacking - Naming Guidelines [Rules] -or- If I renamed your thread, read this. | | | |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 153/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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There's kind of a problem with spaces though. What if you had like a level design question and screenshots? 'Level Screenshots' implies pics of entire levels which would be wrong. (Ironically, I suppose, I haven't posted a thread since I read this. ) |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55 Posts: 152/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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So it's a rule now anyway? | |||
Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 121/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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I guess it is a rule. HH: Good thinking. If you think there'll be a misunderstanding, do [Screenshots] [Level]. |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 69/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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When this thread is done (I see it for collectingt ideas), its results could be copied into a normal stickied (and closed) thread; distinguishing what is rule and what only recommendation, plus using the good overwiev then of a new stickied thread, free of comments. An example how I mean this is as follows, although this deals about RM2k (the forum's purpose is similar to SMW's ones, except the editor of course): http://rpg2k.foren.4players.de/viewtopic.php?t=44159 (German ) In this thread we also could include recommendations for the "optimal" thread setup (dunno know if this would make sense and avoiding senseless threads ), like for demo threads: - Name of the hack, status (approxiamately, of course it is not possible to set the exact status when everything will be finished etc,) - screens in .JPG or PNG - if custom blocks, ASM hacks etc. got used, it should be mentioned. Of course this does not mean, you'd have to include EVERY single custom block you used, but a nice pharase like "The hack contains custom blocks from the Block Inserter tool" or "There are some neat ASM hacks here, added a boss life bar" or othere might be 1.) fitting far better and 2.) be a better guideline, to avoid threads like "my hack" titles and "I'll post screenshots in two weeks" in the first post (edited by Gandalf The Grey on 03-24-04 10:46 AM) |
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gnkkwinrrul Dry Bones Level: 39 Posts: 176/647 EXP: 402054 For next: 2717 Since: 03-15-04 From: LYKEOMGIMFROMSOMEPLACE???? Since last post: 81 days Last activity: 40 days |
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Will this rule also be in affect in the original rom hacking board also? | |||
Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 122/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by Gandalf The GreyThere's NO WAY IN HELL I'm allowing JPG screens, but otherwise I'm with you on this. |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55 Posts: 156/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by JesperOriginally posted by Gandalf The GreyThere's NO WAY IN HELL I'm allowing JPG screens, but otherwise I'm with you on this. I agree, JPGs ruin the whole screenshot if one does not know how to make them correctly. But you can't really forbid people making JPGs, not everyone is able to make PNGs, ya know. |
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Janus Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 33/34 EXP: 4833 For next: 1152 Since: 03-18-04 Since last post: 585 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Hey, dunno if I should put this here, but for the love of god, not everyone's browser reads txt as an image, so get a real host. There's more than enough free hosts that allow image linking. Find one and go there instead of this txt crap. | |||
Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 77/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Janus Yes, previous versions of Mozilla and Firebird displayed the program code in the tab/window usually when attempting to open a renamed .PNG to .TXT file on From the improvements, all builds from Firefox 0.8 on should be able to handle these "foreign" extension better than in 0.7 or earlier, but I didn't try it yet Lycos and Angelfire should offer true remote linking, but I don't know which is the BEST freehost, if you only need to host some screens and demo(s) from your hacK. In Germany, Lycos.de fits very well ... unlimited bandwith, remote linking work though (edited by Gandalf The Grey on 03-27-04 05:58 AM) |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55 Posts: 250/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Yeah, Opera does that too. | |||
Wlokos Red Paratroopa Level: 22 Posts: 17/176 EXP: 54880 For next: 3470 Since: 04-29-04 Since last post: 11 days Last activity: 10 days |
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Sounds like A cool idea. It helps, definitly a good idea. | |||
Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -4527/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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Originally posted by WlokosNice addition. Why not accept GIF screenshots? Jeez. I can make a 512 color GIF for example, although wether or not it displays correctly is another story, but still. And for the love of God STOP USING TXT EXTENSIONS Especially when you link to an image. I HATE having to save it, rename it, and then open it again. It's a pain in the ass, thanks. |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 300/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by 404Case in point: GIF format allows 256 colors. SNES screen = 256*224 = 57344 pixels. One tile = 8*8 = 64 pixels. One tile allows a number of optional colors depending on BPP, but let's say 4. 57344 / 64 = 896 concurrent tiles, each capable of having around 4 different colors. That's 3584 colors. Add to this possible filters emulators/people might apply (eagle, 2xSAI) and you've got a shitload of colors.Originally posted by WlokosNice addition. I'm not at all buying the not everyone can create PNGs argument. There are freeware or atleast shareware programs for this all over the internet. The format has been around for ten years now; there's been plenty of time for programs to support it, and fact is most programs do; viewers, editors and browsers alike. So if you can't provide a PNG, it's you being lazy, that's all. Can't install programs on your computer? Send the hack to someone else and ask them to take screenshots. There's just no excuse for this. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1378/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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And I would prefer that people took screenshots without filters. But heh, that's just my opinion. I'm not fond how it looks with this filters. I like the pixels... I almost always use PNG expect for thoose cases where JPG is better, PNG can have very big file sizes on photos. |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53 Posts: 156/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I think you're a bit confused, there, Jesper. The SNES is only capable of displaying 249 colors at a time (16 palettes x 15 colors each + background color), unless advanced PPU features are used. Thus, the vast majority of the time, GIF works well for SNES screenshots. But, as you said, when transparency and fancy SuperSmooth2XGlossyChunkyEagleCrap filters are used, it suddenly doesn't work so well. I use GIF mostly out of habit (and the fact that PSP has crashed my computer while saving PNGs in the past), but I'm slowly starting to migrate towards PNG. I only wish all browsers had decent PNG support...I usually can't view them outside of Web pages without putting a space after the URL for some reason. |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 246/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I use PNG all the way, except I plan to work with animated stuff; MNG is superiror to animated GIF, but as posted above a very low number of browsers actually support it. PNG simply is superior and, hey, ZSNES already allows the direct dump in PNG format (besides BMP ), it has less space and more advantages like support of one alpha-channel, semi-transparency in supporting image viewers and browsers, up to 16.7 million of colors and it's algorithm is free unlike CompuServes GIF |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 2901/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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And well, I just noticed. People didn't follow this "naming guideline" very much it seems... None of the threads on the first pages uses [stuff] did everyone forgot about it, or was it just a bad idea after all? |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 599/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Bump. Come on people. |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 544/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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This cannot be enforced. The idea really is neat, as it helps a lot; but as many people know - many people do not read stickied threads, and even if you came up with uber-huge font size, ultra fast marquee-tags and blinking, it won't be read by everyone. Putting the staff in charge might be helpful, but renaming every thread and cropping longer titles is not only time-consuming but might be annoying over time |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 4157/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Heh, blame me for the bump. I just told Jesper "This thing hadn't been enforced". And the post above his was a try to revive this thread, which I wasn't succeful with. Why not unsticky it for awhile? Probably dosen't help but... more sticky threads in a forum = the less people care about them. This forum have the most sticky threads. |
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