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Tarale
I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.

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Posted on 10-02-04 10:32 AM Link | Quote
Bleh, I am worried about my little brother. Not really news there, I'm always worried about my little brother...

My brother is one of these people who I don't think is ever "straight". He is always under the influence of something.

These somethings have included
* alcohol
* marijuana
* speed
* ecstacy
* lsd
* pseudoephedrine
* little gas charge thingies (forget what the gas is)

other hallucinogens, etc, etc, etc.

He's been like this for years, hell almost a decade now. It started out with just the pot, and he's branched out into a bunch of other things since.

I actually mentioned this to a doctor once, and the doctor said it sounded like he was self medicating -- that my brother is suffering depression or something of that matter, and he's medicating himself to deal with it. This sounds like a reasonable explanation, as he's been kinda messed up since Dad died and all.

What's concerning me is that the "medicating" is getting progressively worse and worse. Every other day I find out yet another substance that my brother is abusing.

I wouldn't mind so much if it was just pot and booze. Sure, it'd still be pretty bad, but it's a fuckload better than what he's doing to himself.

What I want to know is... is there any way to convince somebody to cut down on the amount of substances abused? Convince him to seek help and maybe get him to slow down a little?

I worry about my brother, but I worry equally that there appears to be no way for me to help him.
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Posted on 10-02-04 04:37 PM Link | Quote
There's no easy way to get someone to stop using drugs...

Does he have a girlfriend? I think the best way for someone to stop using drugs is to be in love with someone who's against drug use. If he feels threatened that his girlfriend might leave him because of drugs, he'll slow down... so if he does have a girlfriend, talk to her ;p

If he doesn't have a girlfriend... Make him meet girls who will make him quit... Maybe that could work...


Basically this is about the pursuit of happiness... Drugs make him happy, if he loses a friend or a loved one due to drug use, that will make him think about it.

Remember that the more people tell him to quit, the more he'll feel like keeping on doing it..

Be as indirect as possible, just make him think about himself, about his situation. Avoid "You're going to get in trouble" "You could die" "You're hurting yourself and the people around you" -- the last thing you want to do is annoy him about it.

I can see this with myself and cigarettes... My parents keep telling me to quit, but the main reason I'm not quitting besides addiction is that I don't want them to think I listened to them, I want it to be my decision... You basically can't have the will to get rid of the addiction if it's what someone else than you wants. But if the relationship with the person is directly affected by what they want you to do, it's very convincing.
Tarale
I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.

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Posted on 10-02-04 05:28 PM Link | Quote
He has a girlfriend, but she does drugs too. However, she seems to be more of a recreational user than he is -- but I don't think it matters, I doubt we'll be seeing her encouraging him to slow down any time soon.

What bothers me most about my brother is that this is not "recreational drug use". What *I* do is recreational drug use -- I smoke sometimes, I drink on occasion, I understand this little thing we call moderation.

My brother does this every single fucking day. It's not recreational, basically if he doesn't abuse something, he goes into various types of withdrawl (mostly psychological, but still). Being stoned doesn't give him a "buzz" like it'd give me. It's fucking normal and that's what really fucking freaks me out.

I just want him to slow down!!

Bleh, but I know full well that anything I say to him, isn't going to work. I've told him he should "slow down" a bit, not in a bossy kinda way, but more... well, after he told me how much stuff he abuses, I kinda just came out with "that's... really not good, dude, you know? You should probably slow down a little". Wishy-washy kinda prodding, but nothing more, cause I know that nothing else will work... and I doubt my pathetic prodding will either.

Thing is, he has lost friends through drug abuse things. He's had friends kill themselves under the influence....

Bleh.... all I can really do about it is worry, and watch as he generates more and more health problems due to this. His heavy drinking has already messed up his stomach to the point where he can't have chocolate and caffeine and has to be careful with alcohol (which he isn't, he just avoids the alcohol that messes up his belly now -- spirits -- and sticks with the stuff that doesnt -- ie, beer).
Ran-chan

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Posted on 10-02-04 06:54 PM Link | Quote
Ouch...if he can
Tarale
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Posted on 10-02-04 06:57 PM Link | Quote
I just hope that his brain isn
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Posted on 10-02-04 11:57 PM Link | Quote
My brother is sort of the same way, though I don't think his problem is as extreme. Though, what he doesn't do in drugs he makes up for in paranoia. Last time I came home he was dead serious that he thought a mafia hitman was after him because he "got an emerging drug blacklisted that the mob had wanted to sell." I don't know what to do with him. Everytime I'm at home he tells me about his newest drug escapades and it's really uncomfortable. I'm only home about 1 month per year so I hope my parents can figure something out.
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Posted on 10-03-04 02:53 AM Link | Quote
That sucks trying to get someone to stop doing drugs. Like tell him that "You're worried about him and that you really want him to slow down on the drugs." Or you could just hide everything on him.
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Posted on 10-03-04 09:34 AM Link | Quote
He's going to seriously mess up the rest of his life if he keeps this up. Unless something really drastic happens I really doubt he'll just stop on his own.

How old is he? If you can, get him into rehab. I'm serious. Send him off. Other wise he may not even be around that much longer if he keeps it up.

~Delial
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Posted on 10-04-04 07:05 AM Link | Quote
The thing is, you can't really help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. You could try doing an intervention sort of thing, but beyond that, if he's determined to just get wasted on every drug imaginable, it's going to take a near-death experience to get him to change his ways.
Tarale
I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.

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Posted on 10-04-04 07:17 PM Link | Quote
Well, I thought about the intervention stuff, but other than sending him off somewhere without contact with other people, that's not going to work -- his friends won't help him ditch the habit. They'll encourage him to smoke, drink, inhale, snort, inject, injest and otherwise take whatever they can!

And I have no faith in my brother's willpower.... if his mates are all telling him to do something, he'll do it.
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Posted on 10-05-04 01:14 PM Link | Quote
Sigh...this doesn
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Posted on 10-31-04 12:24 PM Link | Quote
Here is some advice from somebody who used to be just like your brother:

Give him something to do that would take his mind off of drugs. If he is anything like I used to be, an opportunity which is only attainable via compromising his drug habits (yet is worth the trouble) would definately work. I got a girlfriend that hated drugs and it kind of made me hate them, too. Talk to his girlfriend and see if you can get her to help you out.

If it turns out this requires more drastic measures, then you should probably send his ass to rehab. Use that as a last resort.
Tarale
I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.

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Posted on 11-04-04 05:26 AM Link | Quote
His girlfriend does the stuff too, and doesn't seem real approachable either unless you're my brother. Doesn't seem to want anything to do with us (ie, his family) or his friends, is only interested in talking to my brother.
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Posted on 11-04-04 12:06 PM Link | Quote
This is insane! His girlfriend too? What a mess...

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