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Juggling Joker

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Posted on 09-30-04 12:48 AM Link | Quote
I decided that I wasn't really liking the whole unhappy theme the hack was developing. so I put the oil stuff on hold for a later hack. Consequently, I switched the entire hack into a food theme with an emphasis on sweet things. Future worlds will probably be cenetered on more traditional foods, such as fruits and vegetables, but we'll see. Pictured below is the new set I'm working on based on cakes and other doughy delights.



I'm still fiddling with the palettes, and the set isn't even half way completed yet, so any input is appreciated.

Previous screenshots:here and here.
Latest demo: here.
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Posted on 09-30-04 12:54 AM Link | Quote
Hey, that looks sweet!! (No pun intended)
I've got a suggestion what would be really funny. Insert a custom block that changes into the next MAP16 block if shot by a fireball. Then, make that block passable and invisible and put it above the candles. When hit by a fireball, it turns into fire (can hurt the player and should be animated as well).

"Blow out the fire and wish something"

That would be super!
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Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.


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Posted on 09-30-04 01:12 AM Link | Quote
JJ, the top layer of frosting is too light of a brown. Chocolate frosting is darker... Right now it reminds me more of feces than anything else. I can't quite figure out what the frosting on the bottom layer pictured is supposed to be... Purple's just a wierd color for frosting... I like the concept, though.
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Posted on 09-30-04 01:26 AM Link | Quote
The candle idea is actually kind of cool, though It might be more trouble than it's worth. If I remember correctly, you could only use the Map16 changing blocks on certain pages, and I can't be arsed to remember them right now. I'll look into it, though.

Getting into a debate about frostings is not exactly something I want to spend my time on, but suffice to say, there are different kinds of chocolate frosting (and I don't know what you eat, but feces aren't generally light brown). I prefer a lighter chocolate on my cakes, if only because darker chocolates are generally sweeter and I can't abide something too sweet. The purple is actually more of a blueish-purple (not much of a distinction, but eh), and I already replaced it with a mint frosting anyway.
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Posted on 09-30-04 01:34 AM Link | Quote
Didn't say it looked like it, I said it's what it reminded me of At any rate... I just... *runs to the side*
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Posted on 09-30-04 03:43 AM Link | Quote
Nice, but yes, the frosting colours are rather odd.
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Posted on 09-30-04 03:49 AM Link | Quote
Very nice. The pink stripes on the candles stand out like a sore thumb, however. Furthermore, the icing and ledges look very familiar, and resemble your winter set A LOT. Also, the set looks a little blocky with those checkered boxes.
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Posted on 09-30-04 04:04 AM Link | Quote
Very nice cake set! Looks like the evil oil didn't fit into your hack like you thought it would.
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Posted on 09-30-04 04:10 AM Link | Quote
That is an incredible tileset! I can't wait to see what other foods you'll include in your hack. How far are you along in the hack, I've been anticipating a new demo for a while .
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Posted on 09-30-04 04:19 AM Link | Quote
Hyper Hacker:
Yeah, I'm still working on the colors of the frosting, I'll post a couple options when I have more time and have you guys help me pick out the best ones.

asdf:
I've been working on the candles for a little while, I've replaced the pink stripes with black stripes, but I'm not sure if that looks any better. I'll post a couple test shots when I'm ready. The texture on the sides is the same general side texture I've always used, but that's only because it works so well for these things. Or, at least, I think so. The frosting looking like the snow is an unfortunate coincidence, though if you compare them side by side you'll notice they are different. And the checkered boxes are the same as the ones in the candy set. I'm not going to change them because that's just how I want all the sets to be like.

Great Guy:
I have considering changing the oil into syrup, which would fit the theme a little better I think. Maybe even change the platforms into pancakes or something.

Golden Yoshi:
Unfortunately, I haven't made much overall progress in my hack since the last demo. I went over the first world with a fine tooth comb and sifted out everything that needed sifting. I have a couple levels after that, but they were both using the Oil set so they've been scrapped. Making the tilesets is the time consuming part, one I finish up the Cake set and whatever other sets I think I'll need for the next world or two, I'll be able to pump levels out fairly quickly.
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Posted on 09-30-04 05:05 AM Link | Quote
You know, the oil set could be used somewhere else... It was a good idea

Maybe feature it in a secret world
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Posted on 09-30-04 05:28 AM Link | Quote
It reminds me of that board game on one of the Mario Party games. I think that was for GameCube.
Looks pretty good and I can picture Yoshi devouring it all, heh heh!
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Posted on 09-30-04 05:30 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Juggling Joker
I have considering changing the oil into syrup, which would fit the theme a little better I think. Maybe even change the platforms into pancakes or something.
OMG. You could make the ground slippery on top of the pancakes. That would RULE.

I could even throw together a little hack that turns on the slippery flag only when Mario touches those blocks, no problem.
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Posted on 09-30-04 05:37 AM Link | Quote
The fact that you showed it with the Sx2salwhatchumacallsit makes it better, it looks even more like a cake.... Too bad there isn't a way to make all the tiles into berry block type things and the berry sprites into wads of cake, so Yoshi could eat the whole level, making for interesting puzzles... but that isn't needed anyway.
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Posted on 09-30-04 06:07 AM Link | Quote
I loved your first demo! It was very well done, and I can't wait for this one!! That pancake idea you came up with would be very cool, syrup rivers and such would be awesome. I would love to see the overworld for that one!

And BMF, he could simply use the "slippery blocks" that come with block tool for the syrup on the pancakes.

IMO, what would be better is a custom block that when mario walks on it, it slows him down a bit giving the illusion of sticky syrup. Same with "syrup falls". When you try and swim up them, you have to swim twice as hard as you do when in water, and you would fall slower. A block that does this may be in block tool, under the speed block things.

Good luck with this hack, and hope to see more!
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Posted on 09-30-04 06:38 AM Link | Quote
Love the Pankake Idea! And syrup would perfectly replace the Oil graphic, but what would the pipes be for? A pankake factory?*Wonders what kind of levels could be made with his favorite Breakfast*
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Posted on 09-30-04 06:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Keikonium

And BMF, he could simply use the "slippery blocks" that come with block tool for the syrup on the pancakes.



Hey, don't go saying that outloud. I want to have those kind of Blocks, instead of needing to Surround the Ice On Blocks by Ice Off Blocks (it would take less time to use in a Level, and it would use a little less Map 16 Space).


(edited by Atma X on 09-30-04 11:36 AM)
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Posted on 09-30-04 08:08 PM Link | Quote
Keep the good work!
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Posted on 09-30-04 09:49 PM Link | Quote


Here we can see the newest frosting palettes. I think these ones are a little more acceptable, but still not quite there. The green needs to be a little more minty, and the others need little tweaks as well. I think I'm going to make mulitple palettes for this set, each having different frosting and cake palettes. Also, we can see the newest candle design. I think it looks a little better with the black lines on the inside, but maybe you don't. Oh, and before I forget, those poles are sorta modeled after those twisty bread things, I don't know what they're called.

BMF:
Syrup isn't really that slippery, is it? However, butter is! Either way, we'll maybe work something out when I get to that point.

Someguy:
That wouldn't be impossible, though it would be impractical. After Yoshi ate a cake piece, the surrounding edges would be completely square, which would look like crap.

Everyone else:
Thanks for the support, and I will keep you updated. Give me input and we'll work together to make this a good hack.
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Posted on 09-30-04 09:53 PM Link | Quote
I must say, that I can't wait for the next demo of JAMH, keep up the good work and I hope to see more good pics from you soon.
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