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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 1616/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I installed the program, and tried to make a boot disk with it. Every time, it tells me there's not enough space. Well that's pretty odd, so I changed it to a directory on the HD. Well here's the problem: ntoskrnl.exe itself is 1.88MB! Even though it lets you have that on another disk, it doesn't help much when it's too big for a disk.  How am I supposed to do this? |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5134/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Make a boot USB stick? booting with a CD?  Or it's supposed to actually format the boot floppy itself. A floppy actually can have around 2 MB, but it's less due to the formarting. So testing it to the HD first is not right... have you tried on more than one floppy? I have used a NTFS driver on a bootable floppy disc, but that was Linux I booted on floppy...  |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 1617/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well even an unformatted floppy can only hold up to 1.44MB, and they have to be bootable. Unless there's some sort of compression it's supposed to be applying... I made a copy of the file and deleted all the image resources (the startup screen and such) since they're not really necessary for this, but that only got it down to 1.85. I don't particularly want to use a whole CD for just that, and I don't have a USB bootstick. (I want one, but they're way expensive. ) You say you managed to boot Linux with NTFS support from a floppy? Where did you get that? Or if anyone knows where to get the programs for using RAM drives and decompressing CAB files in DOS (I think they're in C:\Windows\Command in Win98, should be extract.exe and something else), I might be able to just compress the file onto an empty disk and decompress it to a virtual drive. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 728/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Do you need write access? If not, the Linux Ntfsprogs are ported to DOS (even Windows NT/2000/XP, but I'm sure someone was just having fun ) |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 1618/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Yeah, I do. I actually managed to get it working via several old DOS tools I found. First, I zipped the files so that they would fit on disks. (Ntoskrnl.exe still takes up a whole disk, but it fits now. ) I found a program by the name of XMSDisk that creates a virtual drive in RAM. (Same idea as MS RAMDisk, but more flexible, and I was actually able to find it.  ) I copied this (and some other cool programs I found) onto a Win98 boot disk and added it to autoexec.bat. So already I have a nice powerful boot disk with a 16MB virtual drive. Next I wrote a batch file that prompts to insert the two NTFSPro disks, copies the files to the virtual drive, and decompresses them. Voila, instant NTFS access in DOS!  (I tested it, it does work. Even writing. FINALLY.)I also found a fun way to prevent people from using your floppy disks - make them too big to fit in the drive! The little hole across from the write access tab is perfect to put a mini-padlock in, and you can lock several disks together. With a small enough lock (mine just barely holds 3 disks, it could do more but they won't fit around the top), they won't separate far enough to cram one in, and even if you can, the lock prevents it from going all the way in. Not bad for a $1.50 security system, eh? |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43  Posts: 190/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| BartPE (or PE Builder, whatever it's called ) lets you create a version of Windows that is bootable from a CD. It doesn't use Windows Explorer, but it does have NTFS support. I think the latest version of Knoppix also has NTFS read support, using WINE to run the NTFS file system driver. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 729/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by dan Actually, Knoppix just uses the NTFS driver with the Linux kernel... which only has read support (the new NTFS driver has very limited write support). Captive NTFS uses a WINE-method to give NTFS support in Linux by using Microsoft's NTFS drivers (the only one that completely works) |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43 Posts: 191/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| I was under the impression that Knoppix 3.6 included Captive NTFS. At least, that's what one of the comments under this article said. |
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