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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 254/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I know I know. A lot of stuff still isnt documented and junk, but are there any good CT hacks out there? And are there people trying to hack this game? Becuase it would be so cool if someone completely hacked Chrono Trigger like they do with Super Mario World, Zelda III, and what I'm doing to Super Mario Bros. (Shh... it's a secret). Anyone know anything? | |||
Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34  Posts: 125/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| A much more detailed offsets guide will be released in the next few months. Myself and others have been working hard on dissecting this ROM. ---Evil Peer |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 263/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Evil Peer SWEET! I look foreward to it! |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 688/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Well, theres 3 hacks of this game that I know of. I have no clue how good they are, what kind of a hack they are or anything like that seeing as I never played them, nor like CT... But if you want, I can *cough*send them via e-mail*cough* if you wanted to try them out. Or I could d/l them and upload them to my site . |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43  Posts: 214/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| and there is also the Chrono Trigger translation development system, which is a pretty nice resource for anyone looking to get CT into a not-yet-available language. | |||
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 272/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Gavin I was trying to turn CT into L337 at one time, but then it got kinda pointless... >.> |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43 Posts: 218/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by NebetsuOriginally posted by Gavin eeks.. er.. yah i'd agree with you on that. kinda pointless  |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 312/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by GavinOriginally posted by NebetsuOriginally posted by Gavin I got bored of it pretty fast. I started looking for easy ways to do it, but that didnt get very far. Then I just gave up on it. I think L337 is stupid now anyways. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44  Posts: 168/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Nebetsu Well at least you came to your senses.  I don't forsee any "good" CT hacks until more about the game is known. Too bad CL more or less put Chrono Tweaker on ice for now. That's a good proggie.(edited by Lenophis on 10-04-04 01:30 AM) |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 101/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| I'd PM CL about it. He knows tons about the game. I think he told me he'd been able to edit the event data too <.< | |||
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Chickenlump Level: 41  Posts: 386/722 EXP: 474192 For next: 5953 Since: 03-15-04 From: Columbia City Indiana Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by windwaker I've touched a few things with it, but that's about it. I wish I could knew more about it. I've spent more time playing around with FF6's events (read: a couple hours), so I'll be of no help there. The only thing I've been able to contribute thus far has been Chrono Tweaker, and yeah, it's on temporary ice. Been kinda busy with real life and other projects to be fiddling around with CT lately. Maybe I'll give it a go in a few more months. Who knows? Thanks for the compliment Lenophis, I appreciate it.  It's not forgotten, just not important right now. It's not that I know tons about the game, I've just fiddled with what's publicly available. I'd love to play a CT hack though, text only changes are so....bleh. Not that I wouldn't play a new text only hack, if it were well done. I'd like to see some more graphics hacks out. I converted the imps into moogles, which was pretty cool, so I know it's very possible with a little effort. I wish I still had my "Kill Marle" hack, I'd release it for everyone to play around with. Stuff like that is easy to do, copy all Marle's graphics, compress them, place them over another monster's graphics, point all of the replaced monster's "stuff" to that of Marle's and tweak a few things, and boom. Evil Dopleganger hack. |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49  Posts: 603/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Chickenlump[...] A "Doppelg |
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Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 132/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| The same thing might apply for Chrono Trigger - but on the other hand I think, deeper editing an RPG is far harder, since you have to deal with all the story relevant events, checking the balance or even try to alter the enemy spells. You are pretty much spot on here. Chrono Trigger has more than 300 event commands, each with its own syntax. Writing an editor that could properly do all that would probably take about... a year. ---Evil Peer |
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Squash Monster New Age Retro Hippie Togateiru Fohku Kohgeki!! GRUNGE no HAMSTER otona bite Peace love and turnpike! Level: 40 Posts: 428/677 EXP: 430507 For next: 10802 Since: 03-15-04 From: Maryland (of the Country Between Canada and Mexico) Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I don't think dealing with all of those would be all that hard. If you've documented all of them, then someone can just pull a Squash Monster and turn your documentation into a data file that tells a program how to deal with all of the different event commands. (edited by Squash Monster on 10-04-04 07:37 PM) |
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Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 133/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| If you've documented all of them, then someone can turn your documentation into a data file that tells a program how to deal with all of the different event commands. It is not as simple as you might think. The only way one could do this with Chrono Trigger is if you just listed the raw bytes without translating any of it. That would make for an extraordinarily poor user interface. With the effort it would take to create a data file format describing every command and its arguments, and a program to understand it, one might as well just hard code it directly into the program. Because the users sure won't be able to make heads or tails of it. ---Evil Peer |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 322/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| From the sounds of it, it doesnt sound likely that there will be and good CT hacks coming out any time soon. | |||
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Chickenlump Level: 41 Posts: 387/722 EXP: 474192 For next: 5953 Since: 03-15-04 From: Columbia City Indiana Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| There's tons of information available, a few editors out, a great SNES9X tracer to use if more data needs to be found, the decompression in the game is not a problem, as Evil Peer's Sprite Viewer program decompresses, views, recompresses the graphics with the greatest of ease.... way more than enough to make a decent hack of the game. If you want a hack of the game out, a little elbow grease goes a long way. Make one. (edited by Chickenlump on 10-06-04 04:01 PM) |
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Proto K Repent! Level: 27 Posts: 206/279 EXP: 113908 For next: 2251 Since: 03-15-04 From: New Brunswick, Canada Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I can do (very basic) enemy script hacks, but a lot is yet to be decoded, like what exactly determines attack order / randomness, and how some enemies target themselves (Cure Beam, etc). | |||
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 324/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Chickenlump |
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Chickenlump Level: 41 Posts: 388/722 EXP: 474192 For next: 5953 Since: 03-15-04 From: Columbia City Indiana Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Is it the only type of CT hack you can make? Try something that you don't think is pointless. Make all the enemies harder, and make a hard-type hack. Change some of the graphics and text and make a (tasteful) parody hack. Leet may be pointless, but I'm sure that's not the extent of your abilities. |
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