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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Super Mario World hacking - Screenies of my new hack SMW2: Bowser's Return |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN  Posts: -3380/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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| Look, damnit, he said: DO NOT USE MY GRAPHICS that means DO NOT USE HIS GRAPHICS  |
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Heian-794 Red Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 392/896 EXP: 611014 For next: 271 Since: 06-01-04 From: Kyoto, Japan Since last post: 21 days Last activity: 10 days |
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| Hidden Mario, you really should ask them first if you're going to use graphics that they personally made, editing pixel-by-pixel. Ripping from the same games, and making the same color swaps is no problem, but imagine if you spent hours tweaking your own from-scratch sprites, only to see someone else use them without telling you? (Putting someone's name in the credits doesn't count as "telling them" IMO. You should e-mail them while you're still creating your game.) KT's comment translated: (edited by Heian-794 on 08-20-04 08:58 AM) |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68  Posts: 413/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by Hidden Mario Soooo... They should allow you to use their GFX just because the demo is almost finished? Meh.  |
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Aioria Boss Bass  Yes I will!! ;D  Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 771/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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You copied my YI plants idea  see here Anyway, the screens are very good, I'm marvelled with the so well done YI gfx. And appart from the fact that you ripped KT's, Anikiti's and Cwiarl's gfx, its all fine Also, you can rip sets that nobody yet ripped, instead of ripping gfx ppl have already ripped (edited by Aioria on 08-20-04 12:05 PM) |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 268/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Telling him to not rip sets that other people used in their hacks is asinine. Hell, I don't even care if people rip off my hand made graphics, it's not like it really matters. If they can use them better than me, then hey, that's cool, and if they can't, I'm still top dog with them so that's cool, too. | |||
knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 656/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by Juggling JokerExactly, YOU don't care.  I personally don't like people to use my stuff, since they should stop being lazyasses and rip the GFX themselves. |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -3365/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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| Not only that, but he also 'stole' GFX from one hack that had been tweaked and/or done by hand. That right there would piss me off, especially if osmeone stole the underground GFX I made (previously to be submitted, but I'm not going to now just because it's not done and I don't feel like releasing it but to one/two people) And yes, Knucks' right. YOU don't care. |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 305/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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Originally posted by Juggling Joker Just because you personally don't mind doesn't mean everyone should have the same preferences as you. I think anyone who is defensive over having their graphics ripped has a justifiable opinion.. largely because when other people use your graphics, the uniqueness of your hack is decreased, and you have a right to protest that fact. |
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ExKay Somebody set up us the bomb! Level: 50 Posts: 241/1114 EXP: 908268 For next: 39049 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hannover, Germany Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| @KT and Anikiti: I wanted to say, that I changed the GFX I used from your hack. | |||
Omega45889 Panser Level: 30  Posts: 176/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| That looks awesome. | |||
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 274/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by knuksly Originally posted by hhallahh Right, exactly. Some mind, and others don't. Until this topic, there was no real way of knowing that it was taboo to borrow from these specific authors. At least, I don't remember any accompanying text file when I downloaded the hacks explicitly stating anything along those lines, nor was there anything in the topics on this board that I got the hacks from. And considering that the graphics (for the most part) aren't original creations of the authors, it's really no different than lifting the graphics from the original sources. Personally, I would never do it, because it's just as easy to take from the originals as it is from the hacks, and I would rather situations like this didn't happen, but some people have different motivations and morals. |
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Draconis Kenjishiya Shyguy Level: 16  Posts: 19/83 EXP: 18137 For next: 2119 Since: 04-06-04 From: That place where the stuff happens Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 69 days |
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| Those are kick-ass screenshots, I never was able to correctly pallette, although I have many, Yoshi Island GFX. However, they're right, you should've asked them for their ExGFX first before just putting it in, and credits don't really make a difference; I'm writing a sci-fi book and if someone took tons of my stuff and put it in their book, and then gave me a little section saying "Obvious Parts By (my name)", then I wouldn't be too thrilled. It's kind of like that, y'know? It's just not cool. | |||
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 549/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| One, question...Were those bridges hand drawn by KT? If not what game were they ripped from!!! I was thinking about possibly making my own bridges for a swamp type place in my hack, but if I can rip those bridges from an existing game that would be faster (lazy but fast). Okay, about the hack: I think the way you used all the graphics is amazing! I see why you would want to borrow/use KT/anikiti GFX...They are amazing!!!! However I think you could easly create some awesome GFX your self...or rip them I really need to release a demo becuase I have a bridge set I ripped I dont want anyone else useing... EDIT: That wasn't meant to be directed at you. The bridge set part. (edited by Keikonium on 08-29-04 11:54 AM) |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 2053/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by KeikoniumI seem to recall them being in Donkey Kong Country... But I haven't played it in awhile, so I could be completely wrong. Also, you have a really lousy attitude. Rips suck. I give out some of my graphics willingly (or did, until I just stopped working on stuff), but I can relate to people who want their stuff left alone. They worked hard on it, they don't want anyone stealing their work. (edited by Kratos Aurion on 08-29-04 02:38 PM) |
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Deleted User Banned Level: 8 Posts: 1/12 EXP: 1736 For next: 451 Since: 01-23-01 Since last post: 13089 days Last activity: 21 days |
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| Just an observation... to all those complaining about stolen gfx, aren't all these hacks using gfx "stolen" from Nintendo's games? Seems hypocritical to me. BTW, I think the screens looks great. Too bad some people here in the same community can't get along and just share some gfx. |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38 Posts: 318/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| Well, I think there are generally two types of custom graphics.. ripped ones and handmade ones. For handmade ones, such as the Sunnyside graphics, I think the creator definately has a legitimate claim in copyrighting his work. Ripped ones are more problematic, since the ripper didn't actually create the graphics.. he just ripped them, obviously. But even so, I think it's appropriate that one get the ripper's permission to use the ripped graphics... but I'm too tired at the moment to really create an argument for this sentiment. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 2068/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by ThraxenIt isn't so much that they can't share, but that they were never even asked. And actually, many of us (well, me) will only keep the Mario and Yoshi GFX and redo everything else. |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 560/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Also, the ripper has spent many hours (well, I do because I want my rips to be perfect), ripping the graphics from games. So say I spend 1 hour ripping those bridges from DKC and someone comes along and rips them from my game in 5 mins. That would get me angry because of the hard work I spent ripping them. Also, with sunnysides graphics, they are handdrawn so its 100% obvious that they would be stolen if permission wasn't given. I wouldn't want to spend hours drawing graphics only to see them in a glitchy hack. I personally think that nintendo should be credited because they created the game engine, graphics, graphics from other games, and the entire layout for SMW. If not for them I dont think any of this stuff would be possible  . |
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