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Posted on 08-15-04 10:48 AM Link | Quote
Sony has confirmed that its next console will make use of the "Blu-Ray" format, a new technology capable of holding five times more than a DVD disc. The news comes fresh on the heels of progress this week toward a creating a standard for consumer equipment using the technology.

Blu-Ray is so named for the blue laser, a more accurate replacement for the current red laser. Discs using the format can hold up to 27 gigabyetes of information, though the version being chosen by Sony and other companies such as Dell and Matsushita (Panasonic in the U.S. and Gamecube technology partner) looks to hold 23GB.

Manufacturers recently met to decide a read-only standard for the format. This is the next step required before Blu-Ray players can be developed and released, which is expected to happen by next spring.

Those concerned about growing PS2 and DVD collections need not worry, as Blu-Ray is backward compatible with DVDs.

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Posted on 08-15-04 03:20 PM Link | Quote
I remember back when this technology was first being developed, so it is nice that it will soon be getting a practical application rather than just sitting shelved as some nerd's wet dream.
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Posted on 08-15-04 04:58 PM Link | Quote
Hmmm... I hope the mechanism is more robust than the first generation PS2's mechanism. I think it was called Magic Eye, or something. Well, anyway, the more you use the bluedisc CD format with your black PS2s, the faster the mechanism degenerates. This is what causes the disc read errors.

Hopefully Sony will have learnt from their silver and aqua PS2s, and how to do optical mechanisms properly.
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Posted on 08-15-04 07:01 PM Link | Quote
27gb discs.... That"s alot.
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Posted on 08-15-04 11:10 PM Link | Quote
There is no need for that space though unless they make really really really long games. Tales of Symphonia wouldn't be long enough to really be worried about space issues.

Of please when you are talking about gamecube like you did here "Gamecube technology partner" say Nintendo, because Gamecube isn't a company and all that stuff. (not ment to be harsh I am just picky about that....)

It does sound interesting though. I hope Sony does it right this time though so we don't have a really big screw up like, as you mentioned, last time. I always wondered why they just don't work sometimes.
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Posted on 08-17-04 10:05 AM Link | Quote
DVD players are sooo cheap now. And recorders are getting damn cheap too. The thing is they are standardized so it's easy for a manufacturer to just guy the components, slap them together and sell it as a dvd player. They are no longer making money of DVD technology as it's pretty much EVERYWHERE now. But think about it......

How many CD's were some games before DVD's came out? 3? 4? 5 even?? I have yet to see any game require more than one DVD. But they need to make money. So what do they do? Make a new version! I swear this sounds like a big money grab, if nomething else. Granted the technology is bakwards compatible with DVD discs.... still seems like thay are kind of rushing ahead, all in an attempt to make money again. *sigh* .....
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That Blu-Ray technology doesn't count double sided/density. I read in GI about the fact that it can top out at around 50 gigs. I'm sorry...but one media that's about the size of my hard drive for a single freaking game...I think we're about a half-decade/decade off from games getting THAT good.
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Posted on 08-17-04 10:57 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ranko
That Blu-Ray technology doesn't count double sided/density. I read in GI about the fact that it can top out at around 50 gigs. I'm sorry...but one media that's about the size of my hard drive for a single freaking game...I think we're about a half-decade/decade off from games getting THAT good.


But...programmers who like to make BIG and pointlessly complex games won't have a single constraint on them now.
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Posted on 08-17-04 11:01 AM Link | Quote
Only the size of their egos.

Seriously...what would really be necessary to put something 50 gigs to use? A GTA that is extremely freaking thorough and detailed to the littlest speck and spanning from San Andreas to Vice City or something?
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Ummmm...Doom 4?

Just a thought...
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Originally posted by Ziffski
Ummmm...Doom 4?

Just a thought...


... [tries to come back on that one with an open-wide mouth] [fails]

I better be feeling that warm alien/demon blood if that's the case.
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Posted on 08-17-04 11:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ranko
Originally posted by Ziffski
Ummmm...Doom 4?

Just a thought...


... [tries to come back on that one with an open-wide mouth] [fails]

I better be feeling that warm alien/demon blood if that's the case.


I heard that the engine is so graphically advanced that the bump mapping for a single pubic hair of the Imp is going to be the most impressive pube ever rendered.
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Posted on 08-17-04 11:21 AM Link | Quote
Ah...so we're gonna get something like this as a finished product?



Sort of like what I was expecting DOOM 3 to be...

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Posted on 08-20-04 02:03 AM Link | Quote
Eh, interesting but I don't really think it needs all that space for a game but oh well. Maybe they'll find other uses for it or something. I guess it's all about the money. Most of the stuff I don't understand but as long as it's a decent product is all that matters to me.
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I know that I'd be extremely naggy by saying that Doom 3 has only just come just come out, but it will be a long time before we'll see another Doom game.

John Carmack has already told us that the next iterations of the Quake and Wolfenstein franchises are in development with other developers, so that id's next game will be a completely new ip.
If there is going to be another Doom game, it'll be under a different ndeveloper, because id's working on a totally new franchise.
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woohoo! RtCW2 baby.

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Posted on 08-20-04 08:45 PM Link | Quote
Kasumi, what we were talking about was called a joke.

Everbody knows that Doom 4 is a pipe dream...Like Duke Nukem Forever. XD
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Posted on 08-20-04 09:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ranko
Only the size of their egos.

Seriously...what would really be necessary to put something 50 gigs to use? A GTA that is extremely freaking thorough and detailed to the littlest speck and spanning from San Andreas to Vice City or something?


Well, UT2k4 is a 4gig game.

It's not necessarily about graphic detail either, it's about content. That, and more cutscenes.

And then you have games which involve one or more character that must be put on two discs such as DMC2 and Resident Evil 1 & 2. More space means less discs to dick around with.
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