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Crystal Shards Keese Level: 19  Posts: 69/126 EXP: 34318 For next: 1459 Since: 03-23-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 130 days |
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| Unless of course you've got a problem with the living conditions of the animals used to provide eggs and milk, which I do... Not to mention soy products are far healthier... But you know. Veganism is stupid. Right. No reason at all. |
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Jill In love with a dream.. Level: 36  Posts: 330/528 EXP: 296548 For next: 11562 Since: 03-15-04 From: Teh Sweden Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| That's not really a good enough reason imho.. how much do YOU know about how the cow or chicken that produced that one egg lived. If you for example lived near a small farm where they took really good care of the animals, would you eat those eggs? No? STUPID. | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 977/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Name me one unbiased study proving that soy products are healthier and that all animals live in absolute squallor. | |||
Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 471/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| There's no unbiased study, but the meat packing industry's like a stereotype. NOT ALL industrial butchers force livestock to live in horrible conditions, but SOME DO. Movies like The Meatrix are overly one-sided, you can't stop people from expressing their views and occasionally a few things like that are gonna pop up. Personally I'm in favor of treating animals correctly and letting them live healthy lives, only to die of old age. That way, the moral qualms of vegetarianism are gone, so moral vegetarians don't need to worry anymore, as no animals are getting slaughtered anymore, and the people who are vegetarians for health reasons can still do it for their health reasons. Not only that, but for every cow killing story there's a grain harvester story... Both sides have their hypocrisies. That was actually where my inital problem with being a vegetarian was, if I was gonna do it for moral reasons then why would I ignore all of the other humanity-related deaths in animals? I still don't really know the answer... |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 1611/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Grey I understand what you mean completely. You can word any arguement in such a way that most people will believe you. That, and you can inspire them to change their morals/actions. Take a look at Maddox for example. He puts a unique humor in all his articles, that a lot of his fan-boys will agree with anything he says without giving it any real thought or research on their own part. As for me, poor treatment to animals or not, I'm going to eat meat. Does that make me a bad person? Let's just say it does. There. I'm a bad person. I don't care, I like meat. Nobody is perfect right?  So why bother trying? |
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Crystal Shards Keese Level: 19 Posts: 71/126 EXP: 34318 For next: 1459 Since: 03-23-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 130 days |
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Originally posted by EvillerLegion Compare the nutrition information labels on milk and soy milk. (I did.) Soy milk has a LOT more vitamins and minerals in it. Compare soy burgers to hamburgers. Soy burgers have no grease, 1/5 the saturated fat, and, depending on what brand you buy, can have as much or even more protein, on top of the added vitamins. Soy dogs to hot dogs. Soy eggs to real eggs. Tofu to turkey. Vegetatian products are geared towards people who are trying to eat healthier, not to mention the vegetarians, who need the added protien and vitamins because they're not getting them from meat. So they're pumped as full of nutrients as they can be, while being low in cholesterol, fat, and all that other nasty kill-you stuff. Normal meat products are geared towards Joe Nobody, the everyday North American with the pot belly who barbeques and sits in his EZBoy, eating cheetos until he falls asleep watching the game. (NO, I am not calling anyone here a Joe Nobody.) But they're manufactured to sell to people who like the taste and like the texture and the grease and all the shit in it, who don't care about how healthy they are. The kind of people who eat at McDonalds. Those kinds of people. (edited by Shards on 08-05-04 12:04 PM) (edited by Shards on 08-05-04 12:08 PM) |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82 Posts: 481/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Moddox was what actually got me interested in vegetarianism. He said he had no problem with people who do it for religious or health reasons, so I decided to start looking up what those health reasons were. Apparently what Shards says is true; soy products really are pumped with more nutrients so that vegetarians can compensate for what the loss of meat gives. Still doesn't make soy milk not taste like sand, though... Though I must admit, chocolate soy milk is quite good. |
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Havoks Red Koopa Level: 19  Posts: 78/121 EXP: 32533 For next: 3244 Since: 03-15-04 From: Toronto Canada Since last post: 27 days Last activity: 26 days |
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| My mother is a vegetarian, not a vegan. But she does drink a lot of soy milk simply because she likes it more than regular milk. She still eats cheese or what have you when she wants to. She also pops about 3 pills a day, drinks two different powders and is still seeing a doctor about what vitamins and shit she should be taking. OooOoo so healthy. Oh, and she's still fat. (edited by Havoks on 08-05-04 01:26 PM) |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 549/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by LegionHow do you know that? Prove please. Originally posted by Subliminal What the hell do you know about 3rd world countries? Like Leg said in another thread: you don't live here, you don't know how it is. OMG LETZ BLAME THE TRIHD WORLD COUNTRIES LOLOLO |
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Crystal Shards Keese Level: 19 Posts: 72/126 EXP: 34318 For next: 1459 Since: 03-23-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 130 days |
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I actually like the taste of soy milk, I find it tastes kind of like cereal. And soy chocolate milk tastes like brownies!  |
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