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Steak Zora Level: 35  Posts: 44/507 EXP: 278751 For next: 1185 Since: 03-16-04 From: Ohio University Since last post: 195 days Last activity: 195 days |
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| Not sure where to put this. Just some thinking I've been doing. Without fate, we have possibilites. Lots of possibilities. Fate grants us a right to be lazy. Why bother about something? If it's gonna happen, it'll happen. I don't buy into fate. What I find more interesting is what's possible. The future has no bounds...every decision we make, big, small, in-between, or simply deciding to think about something a while longer...each closes off other possible futures. Each one limits what is to come. These decisions become a part of us. They become us, really. For stimulus x, do y, or based off past experiences, do blah should yadda come up. These decision are influenced by and affect the people around us. Sometimes for good, sometimes not, sometimes it's impossible to tell. Utilitarian ethics insist on acting for the greatest happiness...does that mean now, or later, and if later, how much? If there's happiness now, and misery later -- or vice-versa...which is more important? How will either way affect us, shape us? Is determining whether or not an action had the greater happiness really possible? Everything we experience will affect us. The little things, too, affect us. Those affects could be apparent or not. Every little thing. Every person we come across, every life we encounter, will affect us in one way or another. The effects could be petty or grand...and who's to say the petty effects won't turn into something grand later? Even something as petty as choosing where to get fast food could end up as grand later. Some bad service at a Burger King could lead you to not go there, and bump into "Mr/s. Right" at a Wendy's, or similarly miss him/her...or end up caught between an armed robbery in progress and the door at such a joint, or so on. And the list of what could come about goes on. Just a few thoughts. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 190/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I agree for the most part. But there is more than one way to look at the fate thing: 1. The way you said, where fate cannot exist because it would limit the possibilities too much (that's what I got out of it anyway). 2. Fate exists, and our path is set from the start. 3. Fate exists to an extent; but we still choose our own path. For each choice we make, we have a new set of choices to make to decide our fate. There is an end result for any combination of choices you make in life. There are probably more ways to look at it, but those are the 3 that come to mind. I am not quite sure whether I lean more toward 1 or 3, but I certainly don't believe in 2. Anyway, happy to have you back aboard, Steak! |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 260/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Those are some pretty well thought out thoughts, and believable. Things supposedly happen for a reason, even though things continue to seem affective on "you" singlely. And Might Kefka I'd have to say choice 3 seems to be the most correct and believable. But who knows, Destiny will forever be undiscovered. |
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Valentine Revolution Leever Level: 24  Posts: 60/199 EXP: 68616 For next: 9509 Since: 03-15-04 From: UK Since last post: 103 days Last activity: 59 days |
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| I believe we are under the influence of fate, and yet we can ignore it if we choose, we have free will. There is a difference between seeing the path and following it. | |||
Jarukoth  IRRATIONAL EXUBERENCE!!1! Level: 79  Posts: 19/3194 EXP: 4402011 For next: 177456 Since: 03-17-04 From: New Jersey, U.S.A. Shoes: Yes. Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I like to think of the whole fate concept like this: Life is like a tree. As you climb it and make choices, you climb higher and are given other branches to climb out to. When you reach the top, you wind up at a specific place in life, until you fall off the top and die. As a result of this, only the illusion of "fate" is shown. (I'll be surprised if anyone understood that.) |
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