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alitnil Snifit Level: 27  Posts: 9/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| In Donkey Kong, DK jr, Mario Bros., Pinball, SMB2, and most of SMB3, Mario's outfit is distinctly blue and red. so why the brown and red of suit SMB1? any takers on this? | |||
JJ64 Boo Level: 45 Posts: 761/919 EXP: 640956 For next: 19208 Since: 05-22-04 From: Green Bay, WI Since last post: 441 days Last activity: 269 days |
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| I don't know. However, with the Mario graphics the way they are in SMB1, wouldn't they look a little strange? A blue and red Mario... might not work. | |||
JR11 Rex Level: 35  Posts: 40/533 EXP: 278666 For next: 1270 Since: 06-07-04 From: Po-Town, ON Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Maybe it had something to do with the palletes that the game used. (I dunno ) |
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 11/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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Originally posted by JJ64 why not? wasn't mario red and blue in his previous and slightly cruder incarnations? |
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LordL Goomba Level: 10  Posts: 18/29 EXP: 3437 For next: 977 Since: 07-06-04 From: London, England! Since last post: 249 days Last activity: 112 days |
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| Maybe he couldnt find his blue shirt or whatever it is, so he had to make do with a brown one? | |||
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Boom.dk Level: 31  Posts: 19/392 EXP: 168692 For next: 16671 Since: 07-18-04 From: Denmark Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Brown? *Put's SMAS into the SNES game slot*... No it's blue on the SNES version... As far as i remember they used really weird colors for the lines around objects on the NES instead of black. Why? I can't tell but i think its somthing with the pallette, yes... Or maybe Nintendo just thought that he looked cooler with brown shirt? Wait a minute... Wasn't this the first-... No, i forgot about DK... | |||
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JJ64 Boo Level: 45 Posts: 765/919 EXP: 640956 For next: 19208 Since: 05-22-04 From: Green Bay, WI Since last post: 441 days Last activity: 269 days |
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Originally posted by alitnilOriginally posted by JJ64 Yes, but still, I just think the way the red is, and the way the graphics (as I said) are, it wouldn't look right in the palette. It also looks like Mario's shirt has the same palette as the "used" blocks. |
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54  Posts: 366/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Boom.dk It's blue on SMAS because the gfx engine is 16-bit, and the game gfx obviously implement this to make the game look better. It would have been dumb to just port a bunch of games. *Starts playing a SMA* God this is so much fun  |
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RoboticParanoia Cheep-cheep Level: 23  Posts: 92/184 EXP: 60582 For next: 7141 Since: 03-23-04 From: Texas Since last post: 150 days Last activity: 150 days |
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| I heard an actual reason for this, it had to do with the lack of colors, I believe. | |||
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49  Posts: 485/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by RoboticParanoia It's due to the number of colours and the pallette; since you have 16 out of 256 colors, compared to 256 max. colours out of 32768 colors on SNES (may not be correctly in full, not sure) at the same time. And above me it was already said - due to better technical aspects  Also remember the details in Mario's face for example. In SMB1 he has just tiny pixels, in SMW you could recognize them as true eyes. And a more colorful pallette indicates a more interesting and more detailed Mario - so he gets renewed and renewed the better the console gets: just compare the effect or gradient from a NES and a NGC; quite obvious  (edited by Surlent on 07-24-04 03:46 PM) |
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 30/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| but everybody acts as if the color blue didn't exist in SMB1! There's blue all over that game, so i don't believe the excuse of a lack of color. As a side note, Mario in SMB2 had whites for his eyes, but not in SMB3. the whites came back in SMW. weird eh? |
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Frank15 Red Koopa Level: 19 Posts: 59/126 EXP: 32228 For next: 3549 Since: 06-01-04 From: New Orleans Since last post: 71 days Last activity: 67 days |
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| Mario was the only object in Super Mario Bros. that used the "Mario palette," so changing those colors would've affected nothing else besides Mario. So the "colors used for other things" excuse doesn't cut it. They could have easily used blue instead of brown. Why'd they use brown instead of blue? I have no friggin' clue. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 1871/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| And no one brings up the fact that Mario's pants are black in SMB3. | |||
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 34/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| this is true. I'm guessing the black was to accomodate for the different power suits omitting the fire suit. it might not look right if the tail was blue. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1875/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| That COULD be a reasonable explanation, were it not for the fact that his tail is striped, and isn't black, it's the red part of his suit and the tan of his skin. | |||
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 36/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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Originally posted by Kyouji Craw ouch! my bad, yo.  Well, the black may have something to do with the games style of having a black outline for just about everything. Maybe when mario had a blue outline to match his overalls in SMB2, critics didn't like it all too much. Not a good theory, but still a theory. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1876/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Nonono. The entire thing is completely black. I checked it early this morning; I have an SMB3 cartridge and an NES. But strangely not an SNES. I can't check now, I'm at work, on a short break. | |||
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 38/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| Just in case memories are rusty. SMB1=red,brown,peachish SMB2=red,blue,peachish SMB3=red,black,peach SMW=red,blue,peachish SMAS/SMB1=red,blue,peachish  Sprites from The Shyguy Kingdom http://tsgk.captainn.net/ (edited by alitnil on 08-29-04 04:02 AM) |
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