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Should the rules on "bumping" be changed?
Um...vote yes for yes and vote no for no?
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Posted on 07-18-04 06:26 PM Link | Quote
Alright, this was mentioned in Silvershield's thread a few times and I wanted to know what everyone as a whole thought about it.

You should all know the bumping rules right now. So....

My question is do you think they should be changed?
Should we be able to bump whatever thread we want regardless of time?
Should we be able to bump threads that are no older than 2 weeks?
Should there be special exceptions to certain threads so that you can bump them?

Or, do you like the current system as it is now and don't want to see it changed?
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Posted on 07-18-04 06:48 PM Link | Quote
You should be able to bump any thread you like, even if you yourself made the last post.

Especially when it's related to a hack and you have new information or an update.

Even more especially when the thread itself is a log of discoveries of new information on the game you're hacking.

Thus I vote "yes".
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Posted on 07-18-04 06:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Heian-794
You should be able to bump any thread you like, even if you yourself made the last post.

Especially when it's related to a hack and you have new information or an update.

Even more especially when the thread itself is a log of discoveries of new information on the game you're hacking.

Thus I vote "yes".


Ok, that would go into the special cases department. Instead of being able to bump any thread, it could be something like:

You can bump threads in the Rom Hacking forum if....

And just fill in pretty much what you just said.

Otherwise, you'd get certain threads from months ago bumped with a simple "yeah i agree" tagged on it.
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Posted on 07-18-04 06:59 PM Link | Quote
I think there should be special exceptions to certain threads so you can bump them i.e. some of the hacks in ROM Hacking and SMW Hacking.
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Posted on 07-18-04 07:15 PM Link | Quote

I think yes because off people u know may join and u may miss that and may wish to say hello hence why i did that to scats thread, so i say yes to bumping old topics but only for goo dreasons but not aloud to do double posts.
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Posted on 07-18-04 07:16 PM Link | Quote
There should be certain exceptions. But except for those exceptions, I think the current rules are good.
Things that should be allowed are:
Bumping of threads that you yourself created, if the thread isn't extremly old.
Bumping of threads in the Rom Hacking forum, if the thread isn't extremly old.
Bumping in the Movies/TV/Entertainment forum, if the thread isn't extremly old.
Bumping in the Anime forum, if the thread isn't extremly old.
Bumping in the General Gaming, Super Mario and Final Fantasy forums if the thread isn't extremly old.
Bumping in the Officers Club, if the thread isn't extremly old and the issue of the thread hasn't been solved.

To the end of all of those you can add, "or if there is a newer thread dealing with the same subject"
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Posted on 07-18-04 07:50 PM Link | Quote
I...really don


(edited by Millennium Neko on 07-18-04 10:55 AM)
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Posted on 07-18-04 08:00 PM Link | Quote
I think we should be able to bump other threads, mainly if we have something new and interesting to add to the thread. It is much better than actually makin' a new thread of the same subject.
And, yes, mainly in the rom-hackin' and smw hacking forum, since there's always something new to add even for older topics.

*votes for yes
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Posted on 07-18-04 08:07 PM Link | Quote
Considering it's all of the threads I've closed as of late, I'd at least like to have some understanding on what's good and what's bad anymore before I get anymore shots taken on myself for attempting to do my job.

I'll understand a bump that was made that actually CONTRIBUTES to a thread...but if it's someone that's a n00b that makes an out of place statement (and it usually is) then usually I'll just have to close it on the spot...My leniency is about two weeks or so before it gets closed.

I'm just doing what the FAQ tells me to do, I don't know what to tell you guys otherwise other than to pass a kill-the-bump-rule. Makes my job easier. Then I can just pass by a bumped thread even if it was a spammy bump. Hell, I might as well just not point out spammy posts altogether and just laze around, eh?

>>>

My question is do you think they should be changed?

Depends on everyone else, I'm indifferent to it.

Should we be able to bump whatever thread we want regardless of time?

Only if it contributes enough and/or there's permission to do so by someone of the staff. You know, if someone ASKS to bump a thread, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Should we be able to bump threads that are no older than 2 weeks?

See above.

Should there be special exceptions to certain threads so that you can bump them?

Asking. If there's a viable reason then I wouldn't see the problem with it. If it's asking for trouble then no. Outside of general topic forums and going into stuff such as ROM Hacking however...I don't think I've closed any threads in there, just for the sheer fact that there's probably work going on in there. The only reason I WOULD close a thread (like I did one time) would be to point out that a thread's already been made about said topic.


(edited by Ranko on 07-18-04 11:26 AM)
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Posted on 07-18-04 08:40 PM Link | Quote
Ranko, when I posted earlier, I was thinking specifically of the F-Zero hacking thread which is packed with info from VL-Tone, Nestea, and others who don't post much but whose information is priceless. I'm still working on the game, and would like to be able to post there again without losing all the background info.
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Posted on 07-18-04 08:43 PM Link | Quote
You referring to this thread? I wouldn't have much of a problem over seeing it 'bumped' as long as it had good information. Only reason I would close something like that would be if the bump post had something like 'Cheesy poofs r good'.
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Posted on 07-18-04 09:11 PM Link | Quote
Yes, but then again, every case is different.

I mean, a bump in a not so active forum, I don't see as that bad. If it's a bump in an active forum, but the post isn't some short sentence and has actual merit for that old thread, then I say it's fine as well.
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Posted on 07-18-04 09:25 PM Link | Quote
I think that in general, bumping shouldn't be allowed. I'd say a week or 2 should be the limit normally.
There should be exceptions though, for example in the ROM hacking forums, where it could be allowed so long as it added information to the thread's topic (and wasn't spammy). Or, for instance, someone who's keeping people informed of progress on a project (Lenophis and Jade, for example), that person could have a single thread that they could bump as progress is made. Those might not be the ONLY exceptions, but I think they'd be good ones.
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Posted on 07-18-04 09:29 PM Link | Quote
Some threads get killed prematurely, and that sucks. But we shouldn't be able to go back to page. 1 and then bump that thread. That sucks even more. There has to be a middle line, such as threads that are useful but not so that they warrant stickies, thus, there shouldn't be any sort of rules per se, but instead have them replaced with common sense.
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Posted on 07-18-04 09:35 PM Link | Quote
but instead have them replaced with common sense.

The first thing that has made sense all day.
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Posted on 07-18-04 09:48 PM Link | Quote
It pisses me off when a thread made by a cool person that left is bumped back up. It makes me get my hopes up
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Posted on 07-18-04 10:03 PM Link | Quote
Simple.

If you bump a thread it means you have a good reason to do so. Include that reason in your post. Problem solved.


(edited by Kiwibonga on 07-18-04 01:04 PM)
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Posted on 07-18-04 10:06 PM Link | Quote
I'm sorry, but for the most part I have to disagree.

I can agree with the Rom Hacking business (since if people are working on a hack and need a few weeks to code something, that's cool) and maybe a few threads bumped by the original author or with permission.

But for the most part, bumped threads have little to no content in them. Most of the ones that I close are either really old (why do people dig deep into forum pages to look for stuff to post in? ) or the reply is something that was already said before, spam, or makes no sense.

Relaxing the rules? I could live with that... but not totally changing them.
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Posted on 07-18-04 10:36 PM Link | Quote
I don't see the problem with bumping old threads as long as you have content to add. Hell, I bumped my own Silent Hill 4 thread in General Gaming when the initial GameFAQs reviews came out. I wanted to post on-topic content, and I didn't want to lose the speculation and discussion earlier in the thread. That's not nearly the same thing as gratuitously adding "I agree" to some random old thread. I think that bumping should only be punished if it's obvious spam. It's true that you can make a new thread on a subject and link to the old one, but it's not quite the same as having all of the discussion in one place.
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Posted on 07-18-04 10:42 PM Link | Quote
It depends on what they are getting bumped with.

Like, if Balloon fighter got a big revamp and a major feature added. Would you people mind if I bumped that thread?

Personally I don't mind bumping, as long it's a really really old thread. The older the thread is, the better reason you must have for bumping it...
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