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Apple

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Posted on 07-16-04 02:59 PM Link | Quote
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I am so damn tired of listening to people complain on the Internet, I really really am. Nothing annoys me more than listening to some little kid bitch and moan about much everything in this world sucks when not a single one knows anything about the world outside of the school system. (Ok, some do but you get my point).

I said this today to a girl who was pissing and moaning about not being in love...

Me: Trying to find true love at 13 is almost as stupid as paying for AOL disks

Cause lets face it you wont. Your "True Love" is only going to be the "Love of your life" for about 2-3 months. Don't sweat it; don


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It is my opinion that if the downward trend in our youth continues, we're all fucked. Not just 6 or so years ago, when I was middle school aged, none of this stupid shit happened. Maybe I was just hanging out with a good crowd, but man...
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Posted on 07-16-04 03:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NSNick
It is my opinion that if the downward trend in our youth continues, we're all fucked. Not just 6 or so years ago, when I was middle school aged, none of this stupid shit happened. Maybe I was just hanging out with a good crowd, but man...


Its not only in our country, its our species as the whole. I have noticed alot more fucked up youth in America than everyother first world country combined.

6 years ago I was 6th grade watching my friend get his back broken because he called made a joke about a kids weight.
5 years ago, I had to stay home from school because a kid in the apartment complex stab another child and my mom refused to let me outside.
4 years ago I was in school scared for my life since during lunch a group of freshman killed some kids parent and tried to return to school afterwards.
3 years ago I was neighbors with a 13 year old who was selling pot.

America is going to hell, the world is going to hell and theres little we can do to provent it. All we can do is try to fix the mistakes that our parents couldn't.
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Posted on 07-16-04 03:23 PM Link | Quote
You are hypocrite.
You said that any kind of whining is bad, yet you are just whining to it stop.
It won't work.

btw,
Fad number eight: write a big ass post whining for attention.


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Posted on 07-16-04 03:31 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoghurt Duck
Fad number eight: write a big ass post whining for attention.


I can write an even longer one if you wish

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Posted on 07-16-04 03:54 PM Link | Quote
OMG!

Ok, I read the thread title and I'm thinking "What could this be about?" so I proceed to read the very first sentence which is:

"I am so damn tired of listening to people complain on the Internet"

And then I started busting up laughing!

Oh man, Apple you are one funny dude!

I stopped reading after that, by the way. Well, I skimmed over everything and got the gist of it.

Sounds like you were just introduced to the world. So let me be the first to welcome you to it.
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Posted on 07-16-04 04:27 PM Link | Quote
You're right about most of that.. especially the parts with America and fucked up in the same sentence . (Ok.. so the "wats ^ boi" part too.. guh.. my eyes die when they see stuff like that)
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Apple, with regards to #2, you will be dismayed (or maybe relieved) that the use of Japanese words on English speaking boards is as nothing compared to the use of English on Japanese message boards, TV commercials, print ads, games, and basically everywhere else.

These language defilers (I say this only half-tongue-in-cheek, since communication between these people and anyone over about 50 is a genuine social problem) have actually contributed to the almost complete eradication of various Japanese words that have been around for centuries, and replaced them with their own barely-comprehensible English slang. Think "Clockwork Orange" here.

And with that latest monku on the joutai of gendai no kotoba-zukai, I'll be off.
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Posted on 07-16-04 05:37 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jill
You're right about most of that.. especially the parts with America and fucked up in the same sentence .


So, how many times have you been over here and how long did you stay?

Oh, nevermind. I bet the answer to that is "never".

Go back to your television set so you can form an even more inaccurate view of my country.

God damn, this is getting old. You people see stuff like The Soprano's and what have you and think that's real American life right there. You don't know the difference between reality and fiction. Either that, or you base your ENTIRE opinion on what you see on the news.

Point blank: If you don't live here, you don't know shit.
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Posted on 07-16-04 06:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Heian-794
Apple, with regards to #2, you will be dismayed (or maybe relieved) that the use of Japanese words on English speaking boards is as nothing compared to the use of English on Japanese message boards, TV commercials, print ads, games, and basically everywhere else...


And per what I understand...most of the English usage makes little if any sense most of the time or is very broken.

Sounds like my use of it.

Let's see if I can nail these in order of appearance, since this is pretty much one of 'those' rants:

Fad Number One: The suicide thing is for attention. Those that say OMG OMG I'MA DO IT I'MA DO IT! won't...it's just as simple as that. The ones that will are usually the ones that don't try to be the center of attention and the ones that may rarely cry out for help but usually make it subtly apparent. You just wake up one day and you'll hear they're gone.

Fad Number Two: Eh...that much I know. I mean I'll frequent a use of a word or two every so often, but you're right about it. Only thing that would make me any better would probably be if I knew the language, at least fluently, colliqually, and the like, and then having to know the three write styles that don't even come close to our own system of ABC's. Ask Heian about that one; he'd know more than me.

Fad Number Three: OMFG STFU N00B!!11 But seriously, it's a trend that is used in joking most times anymore. 1337 died out a long time ago, so this is old news, buddy.

Fad Number Four: The upper- and lower-case write alternating is even older.

Fad Number Five: AOLsp33k too. Old.

Fad Number Six: Simple answer: Choice. If given the opportunity to do something about it, and do something to what they think is pleasurable and still enough to keep it in bounds of their limits, they'll do it.

Fad Number Seven: That, I definitely agree with...but there are some people that have zero sarcasm detection.

>>>

Other than that, basically saying, it's old news. Welcome to last week. And the like.
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Posted on 07-16-04 06:45 PM Link | Quote
Fad 9: People who try to be just like Maddox and/or people who take him way....WAY too seriously.
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Legion, stop defending your fucked up country, kthx :/

I mean I have first hand experience, being a teenager in the US is a nightmare. Everyone is fucked up in america at that age. There's no solidarity between kids, it's all a big competition to become the best and the most popular. When I was in france, it was never like this. Nobody attempts suicide over the weekend because Ashley and Heather dumped water on their white t shirt during lunch. By moving back to france I went from "stupid nerd nobody talks to" to "normal guy who is friendly and pretty much as popular as the next guy." I didn't want to believe it. One day I was talking to a girl about my website and she was all interested, she actually respected my hobby without dismissing me as some moron with ahem "no life."

Or you know, maybe the two high schools I've been to were excessively friendly.

Heian, you have to make the difference between borrowed words and some dumb internet trend. "OMG KAWAII ^;;;; LOL" is not something you'll hear on the street. Japanese has a lot of english words in it, much like english borrows "Cafe" from french, "aficionado" from spanish, and they are actually in the dictionary. What appears in commercials and such is something else. You see, outside of english speaking countries, anything that's written in english is cool. That's not just Japan, it's everywhere.

People who write japanese words are also people who are like "I wish I was japanese" -- now why the hell would they want to become japanese? To learn to sleep on a futon and eat sushi every day? To watch more anime?

I have a different motive in life. I wish I was a fairy so I could ride a magical pink pony.
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"Legion, stop defending your fucked up country, kthx :/"

I'm American, not French ktanks! <---BOOYA!

"I mean I have first hand experience, being a teenager in the US is a nightmare."

YOU WERE IN NEW YORK! Move along.

And there you go generalizing again. No, not EVERYONE is like that. You live in one place as a teenager (which just so happens to be the cess pool of this country) and you assume (there's that word again) that the entire country is EXACTLY like that. Pssh. What a very educated viewpoint you have there. (Sarcasm!)

Anyway...

"One day I was talking to a girl about my website and she was all interested, she actually respected my hobby without dismissing me as some moron with ahem "no life."

Do you know how many chicks I talk to online that are huge Star Wars fans? Or play Warhammer or Magic the Gathering? Or are huge video game fanatics? There's tons of women out there and they're not social rejects either. A lot of them are very very attractive. Need I point you out to some of them on this very board? Or can you not even escape your own secluded little world to even see that?

I'm sorry that you had a fucked up time here, but I had no problems growing up as a teenager. I had a blast. Sure I got picked on, but who doesn't? The jocks pick on the nerds and the nerds pick on the jocks. You don't go home and fucking cry about it, you live your life the way you see fit and the rest of it wont even matter.

I was the nerd/geek/whatever in high school, but I had all types of friends from different walks of life because I was a friendly guy that people could like. Maybe that was your problem.
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I'm not talking only about new york, go read the officer's club, there's hundreds of people showing me how it feels to be a high school student in the US.

Oh and you talk online to... girls... ONLINE... Who like Star Wars, play warhammer or magic, and are really hot. Online.

Anyways... Are you blind or something? You acknowledge the existence of jocks and nerds... Why did I have to come to the US to learn what a jock or a nerd was? Not because they're english words, no, but because in france there's no such thing. See, everyone gets along. When a kid gets picked on in france, he doesn't get picked on because "We're cool and you're not cool" -- he gets beat up because the strong kids need to steal his lunch money. What do american kids do? They take the nerd, duct tape him to the wall, but don't take his money. What kind of fucked up country is this?

Oral sex is foreplay?

Huhuh. Sure.

Basically you're protecting your country as if we were insulting it... But actually I'm summing up the average american kid's values. I could add stuff like "gay people are icky," etc.

I could change my statement to... Of all the places I've been to, the US is the most fucked up. But you wouldn't be able to argue with that either, since you're actually the one who stayed secluded in one country your whole life :/
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"I'm not talking only about new york, go read the officer's club, there's hundreds of people showing me how it feels to be a high school student in the US."

Let's just ASSUME that every thread in the Officer's Club forum is made by an American and talks about being a high school student.
There's only 96 threads in there. Hundreds you say? And this is assuming the above which is wayyy off in reality.

Next.

"Oh and you talk online to... girls... ONLINE... Who like Star Wars, play warhammer or magic, and are really hot. Online."

Don't get your point here. I know most of them personally. If you're trying to say that 100% of the "hot girls who like that stuff" are really guys, then I don't know what to tell you besides you're dead wrong.

"Why did I have to come to the US to learn what a jock or a nerd was?"

Because you're completly oblivious to our culture! Thank you for admitting that. But not only you, but others like you. See, people like you think you have it allll figured out about us. But you don't even know our simple terminology such as "nerd" or "jock"? Come on! And you think you have the right to judge us when you don't even know how we really live?

"When a kid gets picked on in france, he doesn't get picked on because "We're cool and you're not cool" -- he gets beat up because the strong kids need to steal his lunch money."

WOW! You guys are so much more advanced socially then us! Seriously, that was retarded. Maybe in some high schools that happens, but I've never seen it in the four years of mine. If someone got beat up, it was because of something personal and it started out as an arguement. People didn't get beat up just because they were different.
If they were getting picked on for being different, and they wanted to do something about it, that's when fights started. But if you just walked away, nothing would happen to you. But then again, you wouldn't know that because you didn't go to my high school. You didn't even go to my state. You didn't even go to my half of the country. All you know was that little place that you stayed at and based an entire nation off of it.

"What do american kids do? They take the nerd, duct tape him to the wall, but don't take his money. What kind of fucked up country is this?"

Never, ever, seen that happen before or anything like it. Here, I'll fix this sentence for you:

"What kind of fucked up country is this?"

What kind of fucked up high school is this? <--- There. Now you have a much more accurate statement and you don't look like an assumptious moron.

"But actually I'm summing up the average american kid's values."

No, you're really not. You haven't done enough research to say that yet. I'm sure every corner of France may be the same but over here, we have diversity. Every part of this country is different then the rest. Some places are great, and some places aren't so great. You got one of the places that wasn't so great and it's a shame too because now you think that the whole country is like that. It's sad really that you couldn't have experienced the better part. (Like the best state in the country, Washington)

"I could change my statement to... Of all the places I've been to, the US is the most fucked up. But you wouldn't be able to argue with that either, since you're actually the one who stayed secluded in one country your whole life :/"

See how little you know me? You just randomly assume that I've never been out of the border before. My whole life, huh? Besides both Canada and Mexico, I've been overseas and visited a few countries before.

I've been to Germany, Italy, Ireland, and Saudi Arabia before. I loved visiting them all. (Yes, even Saudi Arabia. It's not so bad.) And like you mentioned in irc, I never went to school there so I don't know. But I didn't go around talking about it. And I certainly wouldn't if I only went to one school overseas because I'm pretty sure they all have their differences too.


EDIT: More content!

I forgot to mention some things.

In my school, say some big burly guy decides to randomly beat up some scrawny kid. Where I come from, people are going to look down on him for doing that because the kid had no way to defend himself. Chances are, he's going to have some other big guy looking for him to teach him a lesson. I've seen it happen before.
Not just beating up some little guy or that, but even picking on him. We had many of the "jocks" who weren't the typical self-centered egotistical assholes. A lot of them were nice guys who actually stood up for the geeky kid.
I know it's not like that for every high school but I know it was for mine. Just one out of thousands out there.

Last thing. When I was at Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia, it wasn't just our troops there. There were also Brittish, French, and Australian forces there as well. So I did get to experience different types of people from differnt militaries as well.

Fun fact about the Brits: Not really on topic but...
We weren't allowed alchohol while we were over there (It's banned from the country. Religious reasons I think) but the Brittish were. I heard that they were even rationed beer. =-o I also learned that when they're deployed, the Queen takes care of their bills while they're gone (housing bills, etc...) Pretty nice stuff.


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As much as Kiwi haven't been to all schools in US, you haven't too Leg.
btw,
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Originally posted by Yoghurt Duck
As much as Kiwi haven't been to all schools in US, you haven't too Leg.
btw,



"I know it's not like that for every high school but I know it was for mine. Just one out of thousands out there."

Dumbass.


(edited by Legion on 07-16-04 11:14 AM)
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Fad #10: Complaining about the internet.

Love it or leave it, i say.
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I don't understand what we're disagreeing on anymore.

Can't someone please step in and say "Yes, a big majority of kids in the US are bent on 'having a life' and beating up the weak so they can get a higher social standing?"

"i dun typ in ful wrds bcuz i hav a lif, nt lik u who piks out wrds frm the dictionnary"

Why is 'gay' a curse word?

What the hell.
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Well I for one don't consider not having a "life" an insult. I don't have one but I'm fully content with what I do and I wouldn't change it for the world.
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