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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 517/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| I was watching a Discovery Channel program this afternoon about the effects of an operation to cure epilepsy... It envolves removing an area of the brain that sits directly between the two lobes of the brain. The operation completely erradicated any seisures from the patients, but some extremely disturbing side effects began to become apparent after the patients recovered. The patients had decreased control over their left hands. This isn't particularly strange until you see that the patient's left hands are erratic, uncontrolable, and disturbingly sentient at times. In experients done on hidden camera, a patient was asked to answer a yes/no question and answer it by pointing to "yes" or "no" written on a board. The hands contradicted each other. One would point to yes, and the other would point to no. If the patient tried harder to point out "yes", the other hand would forcibly move the hand to point to no, totally unintentionally. This amazing phenomenon is caused by the two lobes of the brain not being able to communicate with each other, as the area of brain removed is an "information super highway" of signals between the two lobes of the brain. Doctors think that because the brain is asymetrical in function, each lobe is more dominant in certain functions than the other. The left lobe is unable to manifest itself in the concious and unable to express itself, yet it is still alive, it can only act in ways such as the independent operation of the left arm. The left lobe of the brain, it would seem, is harbouring a seperate and independent indentity- another personality. I find this really, really creepy... Not large spider or scorpion creepy, but genunine, heeby-jeebies, soul troubling frightening. The independent personality is thought to manifest itself in a normally functioning brain through partial subconcious actions. I definately know that at times that I've caught myself doing strange things when I switch off, and I know that there's more than one side to my thinking and my behaviour. This is what makes it so scary... That such a frightening thing can happen to the fragile sense of self, yet you can feel the presence of both the brain and the mind's structure in normal waking life. I really find anything to do with the mind and personality really disturbing. It's scary that my sense of self, my soul, is so fragile, that it is finite and by no means certain. Any thoughts on this bizarre phenomnenon, or anything else that is really, really creepy? |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 873/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I don't really think it is a true alternate personallity. I just think that it is what happens with the lack of the brains communicating like it says. Plus I think it is the left lobe controls the right part of your body and the right lobe controls the left part of your body. | |||
KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86  Posts: 1344/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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I remember reading about this in my brothers psych. books. It was quite interesting. I dont exactly remember anything that stood out, but I do remember something about an experiment. A picture would be shown to the left eye and then he would have no recollection of seeing it at all when shown to the right eye.  This led to evidence that the left side of the brain and the right side control one specific side of the body. (edited by Kirby ATW on 07-13-04 07:07 PM) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 3297/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| You can really talk about split personality here. And your not the only one who finds it creepy. After finding out what lobotomy was... let's say I got very frightened after hearing that. That people even can do such... |
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asdf Cukeman Level: 28 Posts: 130/303 EXP: 128796 For next: 2542 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 54 min. |
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O_o  Congratulations. You have scarred me for life. Or something. That's some scary stuff. The most disturbing thing I have read to date, in fact. |
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kornfan There's a BARB in my EYE! No reregistering, Mr. Permabanned! Level: 38  Posts: 317/622 EXP: 344540 For next: 25907 Since: 06-27-04 From: the middle of fu**ing nowhere... Since last post: 414 days Last activity: 297 days |
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| Yeah man. It's right up there with the thread about what makes you wierd. Go read it. It will fuck you up. | |||
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54  Posts: 182/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Now I understand skitsofrania. | |||
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kornfan There's a BARB in my EYE! No reregistering, Mr. Permabanned! Level: 38 Posts: 323/622 EXP: 344540 For next: 25907 Since: 06-27-04 From: the middle of fu**ing nowhere... Since last post: 414 days Last activity: 297 days |
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| i used to have skitzofrenia. But now we're okay. | |||
Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 1909/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer Haha, I remember when I asked what Lobotomy was at the board and got an answer from Fyxe, I think...  You mean that the hand can suddenly hit a person, Kasumi? Those surgeries can |
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Xzion666 Master of the BANNED clan Level: 38  Posts: 33/642 EXP: 355806 For next: 14641 Since: 07-12-04 From: Mars. Since last post: 402 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| I think that any surgeries that mess with the brain are screwed up. | |||
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 518/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| The hand has a sinister life of it's own... The actions can get quite violent, and yes, the hand of one patient has actually tried to suffocate them once. The stranger side to this is that patients prefer this existence to the painful fits experienced with epilepsy |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 1767/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-AstraThat's not too surprising. Your left hand probably won't try to kill you, but you can die from a prolonged seizure. Or, if you go to a really terrible hospital, you could get shot by some police officers thinking you're crazy when in fact you're just having a seizure :p </subtle reference to why Pacific Gateway closed down> |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39  Posts: 342/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| I had a mild form of epilepsy when I was younger -- don't know why, but it just went away after a couple years. It's not much of a picnic... an uncle of mine also had epilepsy and nearly swallowed his tongue in his sleep because of a seizure. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1769/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by NightHawk... What? How the... What? |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 343/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by Kyouji CrawDon't ask me.Originally posted by NightHawk... What? How the... What?  That's what I heard from my parents about it. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1770/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by NightHawkDid he have a fake tongue, or did he bite off his tongue during the seizure, or... I'd just like to know the circumstances, because, I can't see someone swallowing their tongue... It's just... Weird... (edited by Kyouji Craw on 07-14-04 06:12 PM) |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 520/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| ...The toungue can hang back when the head is tilted far back, and block the airway. It isn't literally swallowed, it just sinks back and blocks the air. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1771/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-AstraThat would make a lot more sense, for certain. Why's it called swallowing your tongue, then? |
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mrmenz Slime Level: 30 Posts: 149/347 EXP: 157982 For next: 7887 Since: 03-15-04 From: USA/PA Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 39 days |
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| My dad has epilipsy and in recent weeks its gotten worse, Id' say mainly because of stress. Its scary as hell though when he has a seizure there no violent shaking, he just goes out of it and stares off into space for a second. Then when he comes out he remembers nothing. This has happened while hwas driving and walking both which ended not so greatly... |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 345/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by mrmenzThat's very similar to what I had. My vision would totally black out, and I'd usually end up unconscious on the floor. I'm just glad I don't (seem to) have it anymore... it wasn't nice. |
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