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Posted on 07-09-04 07:28 AM Link | Quote
How this question came to me was:
I was with my friend and we saw a banner that said, "Music makes you smarter". My friend's first reaction was, "That is a lie, music doesn't make you smarter". But I thought differently, if you take music, you learn something (assuming that you know nothing about music). So wouldn't that make you more knowledgeable, or smarter? I think so, lets say you are taking a shit. You push to hard and hurt yourself in the proccess. So when your when done, your thinking, "Wow, I shouldn't of shit so hard". So you learned, that you shouldn't of pushed so hard. Making you smarter, or more knowledgeable about taking a shit and not pushing so hard. Even something so simple as eating, you take a big bite out of a jelly filled doughnut, microwave fresh. Since the doughnut felt warm, you took a big bite to find out that since microwaves cook from the inside out, the jelly was hotter and you burned the living fuck out of your mouth and had to go to the hospital for open mouth surgery to remove the scolding jelly off the roof of your mouth so you can breath normally again. So you learned NOT to eat a jelly filled doughnut fresh from the microwave. Making you smarter.
Do you agree that doing anything makes you smarter?
Assuming you have not perfected the thing you are doing, which I highly doubt anyone has perfected anything.
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:32 AM Link | Quote
Essentially yes, but there is only so far of a limit that it extends to.

Think, if you're under the thought pattern of putting a gun to your head and wondering if it'll hurt, odds are you won't be getting the answer once you pull the trigger.

It's a matter of gaining experience and other 'useless' knowledge that you may never apply to your life (aka General Knowledge/Trivia).
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:35 AM Link | Quote
So wouldn't being smarter be reffering to your capacity to learn, and knowladgable refer to what you actually do know?
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:35 AM Link | Quote
Holy shit! You're right! But wait, say you got another doughnut and microwaved it, but this time, you waited for it to cool, you haven't learned anything new, because you already know NOT to eat it hot!
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:37 AM Link | Quote
You become more knowladgable about microwaved donuts, but not any smarter. If I microwaved a thousand donuts and observed their patterns, would that make me smart enough to become a rocket scientist?
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:38 AM Link | Quote
Or say you do learn something wrong. Say you play a particular song wrong. That inhibits learning it the right way later.
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Originally posted by Disturbed1
So wouldn't being smarter be reffering to your capacity to learn, and knowladgable refer to what you actually do know?


I believe so. In terms of a person being smart, it's usually termed with a matter of what he knows (often confused with knowledgeable) but there could be a person that limits himself to be knowledgeable about only one certain topic or strictly a few. I guess then how smart you are would be how much potential you have at learning everything, given your learning pattern (since it's pretty tough to learn everything and anything from Algebra to Zen).
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:40 AM Link | Quote
So would that be about why the iq test was invented? And kyouji, wouldn't that still just be more knowladgable?
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Disturbed1
So would that be about why the iq test was invented?...


It could be, but tests aren't accurate to begin with. It's only what you put down on pen and paper at a given time and could be completely off.

That's why some people that didn't do so well in school could very well do something extraordinary when they leave. It's not at all impossible, it's just they could've sucked at tests and paperwork or it was very, very boring for them.


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Posted on 07-09-04 07:47 AM Link | Quote
So there is no accurate way of measuring how smart someone is, and if they are getting smarter or not. Only if they're getting more knowladgable. Stupid brains with their mysteries...
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Posted on 07-09-04 07:58 AM Link | Quote
If anyone ever scientifically figures out what a brain's capacity is...I'm just gonna have to hurt them.

...and don't start with the damn computer capacity to brain capacity thing. I don't know how people can term something organic that thinks on it's own to a capacity of a super/computer.
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Posted on 07-09-04 08:11 AM Link | Quote
How could you compare something's capacity to something that it made? That just makes no sense at all. That'slike saying that you're only as smart as the house that you can build.
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Posted on 07-09-04 08:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BookReader in General Chat thread
...Ants have the brain power of a Mac 2 computer, read it in Scientific American.


That's how. I don't get it either. I remember some guy talking in high school about how a brain of a human could be powered by one heck of a supercomputer but needing the electricity of half the US to run or something. Personally, I thought it was bullshit, since it just sounded like he was tossing numbers around.
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Posted on 07-09-04 08:21 AM Link | Quote
I wish that I could do that and sound intelligent. As opposed to what I do.
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Time makes you wiser and therfore smarter, so the older you are the smarter you are. Unless theres something wrong with you.
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Posted on 07-09-04 11:19 PM Link | Quote
Animal brains and computers works diffrent, unless computers animal brains don't go after math all the time... (humans are animal for me)

We get smarter by training it, listining to music does that.

IQ tests aren't that accurate, it dosen't tests talents for example. It justs tests how good you are at doing logical things
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Posted on 07-10-04 06:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Disturbed1
How this question came to me was:
I was with my friend and we saw a banner that said, "Music makes you smarter". My friend's first reaction was, "That is a lie, music doesn't make you smarter".


Mozart's music supposedly stimulates growth of the neurons.

There was a study where they had two groups, one group would listen to Mozart's music before taking a test and the other would listen to New Age music. The group that listened to Mozart's music did better on the test.

I'm not sure if this is true though.
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Posted on 07-10-04 07:27 AM Link | Quote
I would say everything you do makes you smarter. Not entirely everything, but you could also learn from what other people do. If your brother jumps off the roof and you were going to do it too but then you realize he broke his neck for being so stupid. So you wouldn't do it either.
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Posted on 07-10-04 12:01 PM Link | Quote
But wouldn't that still be more knowladgable? This should really be a poll...
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